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Tomahawk Nation Opposes SOPA

Tomahawk Nation is a division of SB Nation, which is owned by Vox Media. They drafted this statement, and gave us the option to run it, alter it and run it, or ignore it. Because I am against SOPA, and think it well done, I left it as is.

Vox Media Position on SOPA

The internet has been abuzz recently with strong opinions on the Stop Online Piracy Act, or SOPA as it is commonly called. Content owners feel that the legislation is absolutely necessary to enable them to stem the rampant piracy that is eroding their markets; they need a better way to enforce their rights. New media companies see the legislation as a Web killer that threatens their very existence, as the key to engaged communities is the freedom to contribute to the conversation, including the contribution of relevant content. As a new type of media company that invests heavily in both developing our own premium content and providing our communities of readers with powerful tools with which to express themselves, Vox Media is in a unique position to understand the conflict raised by the Stop Online Piracy Act, or SOPA.

Vox Media -- the parent company of SB Nation -- is officially opposed to SOPA. The bill as drafted is overly broad, vaguely worded, and gives rise to a number of significant concerns:

  • Decreased effectiveness and questionable availability of the Digital Millennium Copyright Act (DMCA) safe harbor for sites that host user-contributed content;
  • Higher compliance costs for all sites that host user-contributed content;
  • Potentially overzealous compliance efforts by search engines and payment providers in their attempts to maintain the immunity offered by SOPA section 104;
  • Serious constitutional issues in regards to due process and seizure of property.

These are major issues that appear to be insurmountable in SOPA as it is written. Although the legislation purports to target only so-called foreign pirate sites and not US-based sites or those that end in .com, .net, or .org, there is a very real possibility that (over)reaction to the legislation would catch more than a few U.S.-based .com sites in its crosshairs.

Vox Media may find our domain names to be the subject of an in rem lawsuit as a result of users posting unlawful video clips. We may find that payment providers proactively turn off payment accounts for any sites that have been the subject of a recent copyright claim, however frivolous. We may find that a service provider decides to redirect our domain names away from our content as a knee-jerk reaction to a single unsubstantiated complaint.

Whether or not US-based sites are directly targeted by the language of SOPA, Vox Media will certainly end up having to defend our properties and the content we display, whether published by our own employees or by our dedicated readers. We will eventually be forced to show why our publications fall outside of the wording and thus the reach of SOPA, which may prove to be an easy task or a much more difficult one - the vague language of SOPA makes it impossible to predict. What we do know is that dealing with SOPA will cost us time, money, and energy that would be better spent serving our readers with quality journalism and empowering our communities with innovative technology. Whatever heightened protection SOPA might offer to content owners is not worth that price, and SOPA should be opposed.

If SOPA is not the right answer, what is? It seems clear that there are two legitimate sets of interests that need to be reflected, addressed, and balanced. As a media company that creates content and empowers communities, Vox Media walks the very line where the balance must be struck. Vox Media is a company founded on and steeped in community content across hundreds of editorial websites dedicated to passionate conversation, but we are also increasingly a premium original content owner and creator that employs top-tier journalists and produces premium multimedia programming across each of our content verticals. We believe this hybrid model is the future of journalism; it is certainly the future of our company. We need a copyright law that understands the rapid pace of innovation online and allows it to flourish.

Content owners, including Vox Media, need to be able to enforce their rights in a meaningful and practical way against those that would steal from them. And we need to preserve the power of communities, like the Vox Media communities, by explicitly expanding fair use to encompass a wide range of legitimate uses that do not erode the market for the original works: commentary, criticism, parody, remix. Vox Media's opposition to SOPA is not limited to defeating one bad law grounded in an outmoded view of content; it extends to a genuine desire for copyright law and policy to strike the right balance, which must start with comprehending and embracing the the powerful and inspiring new media world in which we now live.

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I have been on a huge campiagn to do away with a few bs laws and to bring thing to more of a public attention....

SCREW NDAA, SOPA, PIPA, Petro Dollar

Glad some of my fellow Noles feel the same. I did not bring any of this discussion here due to not wanting to ruin the NSD spirit, but since it was brought up please call or email your local Congressmen and Senator and tell them to not vote for these damn near criminal laws.

GO NOLES!!! SCALP EM!

by NOLEFAN1 on Jan 19, 2012 5:24 AM EST up reply actions  

Contacted both Senators and my Representative

Unfortunately, my representative (who will remain nameless) is available to the highest bidder. But even HE can’t ignore these political winds.

Sheriff Branford: The fact that you are a sheriff is not germane to the situation.
Buford T. Justice: The god damn Germans got nothin' to do with it!

by GonzoNole on Jan 19, 2012 9:09 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

RollNole5 opposes SOPA

My photo appeared in the Nightlife photo collage of the FSView for six weeks in-a-row. That’s who I am.

by RollNole5 on Jan 18, 2012 9:44 PM EST reply actions  

Way I feel about Sopa

The sentiment good, Execution bad. Needs to be a better law than this one.

by FSU on Jan 18, 2012 9:46 PM EST reply actions  

I’m all for SOPA’s execution.

My photo appeared in the Nightlife photo collage of the FSView for six weeks in-a-row. That’s who I am.

by RollNole5 on Jan 18, 2012 9:48 PM EST up reply actions  

Kind of like

going after a blade of grass with a chainsaw is bad execution.

Now I want to see a guy cutting grass with a chainsaw.

Dan Patrick: "Is Ponder a good name for a quarterback?"
Christian Ponder: "Why? Because you say I overthink things? is that what you’re trying to imply? As crazy as it sounds, my mom’s maiden name is actually SuperBowlWinner. Isn’t that crazy?"
DP: "Now is that hyphenated?"
CP7: "No, it’s all one word."

by GregJones on Jan 18, 2012 9:49 PM EST up reply actions  

When all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail.

by Bud Elliott on Jan 18, 2012 10:42 PM EST up reply actions  

Is there a better law in the pipeline?

I don’t think SOPA is the answer, and given it effects my livelihood I should know so my ignorance is embarrassing, but is there a better bill out there?

Boggles my mind there are some people who still believe in 2012 that theft of my work product is acceptable in a way they’d never condone stealing a book from Barnes & Noble or a shirt from the Gap.

by TheHyperCritic on Jan 18, 2012 9:52 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

If your work product is a physical piece of property that you clearly own, then it’s no ones to use without your consent. If its a copy of a copy of a computer file that someone rightfully purchased from you, then perhaps it’s no longer yours.

by espygj8 on Jan 18, 2012 11:59 PM EST up reply actions  

bingo

not to mention there are already IP laws that deal with the internet, they are just not enforced well. in comes SOPA, which makes more bad laws.

"I guess they have a reputation of being more of a tricky team and not being tough. You hit ‘em in the mouth, and they don’t like it. Other teams that have beat them just hit them in the mouth, so that’s what we started out with.’’ - Nick Moody

by nole07 on Jan 19, 2012 12:07 AM EST up reply actions  

When someone purchases a copy of a movie

They purchase it for singular, personal use. Not to give away to friends and even strangers for free.

A movie or a TV show or a song are all pieces of work that are worked on for years at tremendous cost.

To use technology to steal that work product is theft plain and simple.

by TheHyperCritic on Jan 19, 2012 1:52 AM EST via mobile up reply actions   1 recs

What do you mean?

Is it illegal to give someone a movie or book you bought? That’s the thing I’m disliking about the new electronic media. I love my kindle but you can’t give away a book that most times you pay full price for, same thing with songs, games you buy through Xbox live, etc. If I buy it I feel I should have at least a right to give it away to someone. Technically I think you should also be able to sell it the way you can sell used books, games, etc but I can live with it if that’s not allowed.

by Renegaded on Jan 19, 2012 3:33 AM EST up reply actions  

Back in the 90's

Congress passed a law regarding VCRs that said it was ok to copy/share with people as long as you didn’t sell it. The big media companies have been freaking out since then and have been trying to get tighter controls on the web, hence the DMCA and now SOPA

by Jonathan Loesche on Jan 19, 2012 7:57 AM EST up reply actions  

I love that movie.

Rec +1

There will be a work around if the law is passed. I am against the law because it does not allow the person accused a day in court.

Go Noles!!

by AbeFroman21 on Jan 19, 2012 11:43 AM EST up reply actions  

When the problem is piracy go after piracy.

In football terms it’s like having a bad attitude player (lets call him Fred Rouse) and then kicking everyone off the team.

by pb4957 on Jan 18, 2012 10:05 PM EST reply actions  

Was actually talking to one of my law professors today about it

He was against it but of the opinion that the effects are vastly overstated and won’t affect much of anything noticeably

"But they understand expectations don’t win games. And just because you’re picked to win, they don’t give you the trophy when the season starts. And we tell our kids that we have to form great habits and have great work ethic and form our identity as a team. We just have to reinforce that everyday because as we tell them, the pressure of expectations is only there if we aren’t prepared for them. If we prepared for them and we’re prepared mentally and physically, the pressure of the expectation won’t bother us." - Jimbo Fisher

by Sem1nole on Jan 18, 2012 10:41 PM EST reply actions  

kinda like the Patriot Act, or NDAA?

yeah, overarching releases of authority never come back to bite you.

"I guess they have a reputation of being more of a tricky team and not being tough. You hit ‘em in the mouth, and they don’t like it. Other teams that have beat them just hit them in the mouth, so that’s what we started out with.’’ - Nick Moody

by nole07 on Jan 18, 2012 11:48 PM EST up reply actions  

Oh don't get me wrong, I hope it gets struck down (I think it's 100% an overreaching of gov't power)

"But they understand expectations don’t win games. And just because you’re picked to win, they don’t give you the trophy when the season starts. And we tell our kids that we have to form great habits and have great work ethic and form our identity as a team. We just have to reinforce that everyday because as we tell them, the pressure of expectations is only there if we aren’t prepared for them. If we prepared for them and we’re prepared mentally and physically, the pressure of the expectation won’t bother us." - Jimbo Fisher

by Sem1nole on Jan 18, 2012 11:53 PM EST up reply actions  

Tennessee Tech is against SOPA

by ttubasketball on Jan 18, 2012 10:49 PM EST reply actions  

How has TTU been this year, I havent seen them play

by FSU on Jan 18, 2012 11:07 PM EST up reply actions  

Thanks for asking. Its been up and down. First year head coach, inconsistent PG play, inconsistent defense, leading scorer has a 2/16 or whatever game. But the nature of the OVC is that the OVC tournament is pretty much all that matters (potentially excluding Murray St. This year) The journey is always fun though.

Murray St. Being a top ten team willbe fun having come to Cookeville. We have a legitimate shot at them at home. Could have wonat Murray last week if we make our FTs.

by ttubasketball on Jan 18, 2012 11:20 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

i know several people in the AD there. They all like Payne & thought he did a good job in Sutton’s absence

by FSU on Jan 18, 2012 11:36 PM EST up reply actions  

We will make Murray State pay this year

In Tennessee Tech’s honor.

'Gentlemen, it is better to have died a small boy than to fumble this football.' John Heisman

by Nattylite on Jan 19, 2012 9:59 AM EST up reply actions  

They drafted this statement, and gave us the option to run it, alter it and run it, or ignore it.

So we can look at other SB nation blogs and see what their editors thought about it? Fun!

Anyone care to take a guess what the other sites did? I bet STS just blamed Dabo…

by FSUKook on Jan 18, 2012 11:11 PM EST reply actions  

To be fair

It probably was Dabo’s fault

by paperjames on Jan 18, 2012 11:57 PM EST up reply actions  

It wasn't Dabo

He was on a cruise ship off the Italian coast.

Sheriff Branford: The fact that you are a sheriff is not germane to the situation.
Buford T. Justice: The god damn Germans got nothin' to do with it!

by GonzoNole on Jan 19, 2012 9:12 AM EST up reply actions  

I thought that captain

of the cruise ship looked familiar. He was DABO wasnt he!!!

by origiNOLEone on Jan 19, 2012 9:56 AM EST up reply actions  

Bingo

What is the definition of safe sex down in Gainesville?

Placing signs on the animals that kick.

by ValdostaNole on Jan 18, 2012 11:36 PM EST up reply actions  

It has less to do with "government not being the answer"

And more to do with “legislation should not be crafted by the folks most interested in its outcome” like the MPAA and other such companies did with these bills.

by RyanC on Jan 19, 2012 9:54 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

it's really both, to be honest

but thats a looooooong discussion that isnt fit to be here

"I guess they have a reputation of being more of a tricky team and not being tough. You hit ‘em in the mouth, and they don’t like it. Other teams that have beat them just hit them in the mouth, so that’s what we started out with.’’ - Nick Moody

by nole07 on Jan 19, 2012 10:08 AM EST up reply actions  

SOPA/PIPA don't even stop piracy

This is simply a way to legislate an outdated business cartel do they don’t have to compete with 21st century market pressures.

by Jonathan Loesche on Jan 18, 2012 11:22 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

PIPA?

Pipa Middleton? whats wrong with her?

>>>─────;;─►

by NorFla_Nole on Jan 18, 2012 11:48 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

No, he's talking about SOPAPILLAS

Very good with honey or butter, but horrible for the internet.

by ScalpEM_TX on Jan 19, 2012 8:06 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Ahh Sopapillas

One of the things I miss the most from Texas, along with Whataburger and kolaches. None of those to be found anywhere in Georgia.

Oh, and SOPA’s bad too…

by TonySopraNOLE on Jan 19, 2012 9:11 AM EST up reply actions  

Got to introduce some family to kolaches this past Christmas

Those things will ruin you … in a good way. Can’t decide if the Czech Stop in West or the Chapel Hill Bakery in Chapel Hill has the best.

Oh, and I was so thankful that Tallahassee had Whataburger while I was there. I love the Noles, but I don’t think I could have gone four years without Whataburger.

by ScalpEM_TX on Jan 19, 2012 12:51 PM EST up reply actions  

ick. Not a fan of any of the 3. And you still can’t get decent sweat tea in TX

by FSU on Jan 19, 2012 1:58 PM EST up reply actions  

nole07 opposes both SOPA and PIPA

predictably, i suppose

"I guess they have a reputation of being more of a tricky team and not being tough. You hit ‘em in the mouth, and they don’t like it. Other teams that have beat them just hit them in the mouth, so that’s what we started out with.’’ - Nick Moody

by nole07 on Jan 18, 2012 11:46 PM EST reply actions  

well

Is this the beginning of the end of freedom of speech?

by jhunter723 on Jan 19, 2012 12:40 AM EST via mobile reply actions  

look into the main focus of tort law lately

free speech has been litigated, regulated, and legislated away for a long time. if anyone may be offended, it can get you in trouble. if somebody kinda said it, they try to claim it as a TM.

note: this does not apply to McDowell’s and the Big Mick, which are totally legitimate

"I guess they have a reputation of being more of a tricky team and not being tough. You hit ‘em in the mouth, and they don’t like it. Other teams that have beat them just hit them in the mouth, so that’s what we started out with.’’ - Nick Moody

by nole07 on Jan 19, 2012 12:53 AM EST up reply actions  

Tort law has little to do with the Constitutional right to free speech

The Constitution protects you from government intrusion on freedom of speech; your employer, neighbor, or anyone else is free to use their free speech to object to whatever it is you said. You can be fired if you say something your employer doesn’t like. And you can be held liable if you say something untrue that harms another person. You still have freedom of speech (the government is not taking it away) — you just have to deal with the private consequences of using it.

As for SOPA, it has elicited a lot of chicken little reactions. It’s probably not good law, but it’s impact is hard to judge. It is not the end of the world or the Internet. Keep in mind that most companies and other entities opposing regulation paint a worst-case scenario when they oppose it.

by NolesStat! on Jan 19, 2012 1:26 AM EST up reply actions  

i am well aware of the difference between torts and con law

the point is the difference in what society values, and since we vote for our representatives, and they come from the same society, the laws tend to reflect societal trends.

and the chicken little response isnt really that chicken-little-ish. the response is what the law allows the government to do, not what it was written to do. the devil is often in the details, and the unintended consequences are the issue. any law written to address a perceived issue needs to be free from loopholes and interpretations that allow for massive power grabs at will.

the best example i can give is this: you may love the current government making the laws, but what happens when the other guy is in charge? do you really want to give him that kind of power and leeway?

"I guess they have a reputation of being more of a tricky team and not being tough. You hit ‘em in the mouth, and they don’t like it. Other teams that have beat them just hit them in the mouth, so that’s what we started out with.’’ - Nick Moody

by nole07 on Jan 19, 2012 1:47 AM EST up reply actions  

If you've ever worked in retail growing up, you've dealt with "stockloss"

Merchandise that’s damaged, stolen, etc. that negatively impacts the bottom line. A store will put together a plan to limit it as much as reasonably possible, but know that they’ll never make that number 0. That’s the balance that needs to be found regarding piracy. It’s never going to be fully wiped out. Find a way to limit without treating us all like criminals.

This law is the equivalent of letting said stores have cops to strip search people as they leave, and frankly I think it’s targeted more at using copyright as a bludgeon to turn the internet into something closer to what you have on your television. User created content? Too risky. Best to let the official mouthpieces keep you informed.

If all sports fandom is a form of emotional gambling, football is poker and hockey is Russian roulette.

by Kazoonole on Jan 19, 2012 5:36 AM EST reply actions  

It's about an industry that refuses to adapt

when the world is changing around them. Everyone’s got their fingers in their ears and eyes closed, trying as hard as they can to remember the good ol’ days when they could force feed whatever crap they wanted to an audience who had no other options.

I think piracy is the scapegoat.

by ScalpEM_TX on Jan 19, 2012 8:09 AM EST up reply actions  

Good job coming out with this statement, BElliot.

I was hoping the leadership of site would come out against this infernal piece of legislation.

I suggest calling your Representative and let him/her know how you feel. It takes a minute, and it makes a difference.

One point of further emphasis: any analogy with traditional law enforcement does not go far enough. This legislation gives Hollywood behemouths the power to contact corporations like Google and order them to shut down a website they deem an offender of this act. So, the better analogy would be if Wal-Mart were given the power themselves to detain you on the suspicion of theft, then allow them to contact your bank and order them to shut down your debit and credit cards, on the rationale that you can sell what they allege you stole and deposit the money in your account.

Come and see the violence inherent in the system!!!

by GoNolzOhio on Jan 19, 2012 9:16 AM EST reply actions   1 recs

What we need is a good SCARY ad!

Like this one done to stop FDA vitamin regulation

Sheriff Branford: The fact that you are a sheriff is not germane to the situation.
Buford T. Justice: The god damn Germans got nothin' to do with it!

by GonzoNole on Jan 19, 2012 9:17 AM EST reply actions  

Google put it best when their site said just remove the pirate's (yarrrrrr) funding

I realize that will take some international cooperation since most of these sites are overseas, but I would like to think if we can take out Bin Laden we can handle a few EuroNerds.

by vickers8 on Jan 19, 2012 10:14 AM EST reply actions  


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