2012 Recruiting Discussion Thread #42 [CLOSED]
by DA-2 on Jan 19, 2012 10:26 PM EST
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PrintWelcome to the recruiting discussion thread. Please refer to the Recruiting Board for information on prospects. We are asking readers comment here instead of the recruiting board so that the recruiting board will load quicker. Feel free to talk recruiting news, rumor, information, etc. Amateurs and experts are all welcome. No question is too simple. Have a projected class? That's fine as well.
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Specific Player Questions (Check here before asking)
- Mario Edwards Jr.- Edwards Jr has Official Visit Florida State. The only other school in the running is Texas. Most question though if he could insult his father's school at this point. He looks to be solid in his commitment to Florida State.
- Dante Fowler- His recruitment has been very interesting. He's grown up a Florida State fan, but still has ties to Florida. He's taken multiple visit to Florida, including this summer when he was rumored to be leaning toward Florida. He also took in the beating Florida received from Alabama in early October. He's remained a Florida State commitment, but is scheduled to take official visits to University of Southern California, as well as Louisiana State. Those schools should not matter though, as he's been quoted as saying it's down to Florida and Florida State. His recruitment should be something interesting to watch. Dante Fowler looks to be solid to Florida State; Leonard Williams is the only wildcard that may change things.
- Dorial Green-Beckham- FSU is not in the race for this receiver from Missouri. His brother is very sick and he wants to stay closer to Arkansas. That means Oklahoma, Missouri, Arkansas, etc. Not FSU.
- Leonard Williams- Many people thought Florida State was done at DE. Perhaps not. Leonard showed out at the Under Armour game, and looks to be an Auburn-Florida-Florida State battle. Experts are saying Auburn at this point.
- Andrus Peat- One of the more intriguing players in this class. Although at first glance you question why a kid from Arizona with a brother at Nebraska would go to FSU, there is some interest here. Peat's grandparents surprisingly live in Tallahassee. FSU still isn't the favorite to get Peat, that's probably Nebraska, but it's not impossible for Peat to be a Nole come signing day. And there is no question that FSU would take him if he wants in. 1/4/12 update: Corey Long of ESPN.com is reporting he plans to visit FSU the weekend of January 20th. Most believe Nebraska leads at this point.
- Jameis Winston- is a Nole. There's no talk of him switching to hometown Alabama. There's no visits scheduled to Florida State yet (that are known of), but there are none to Alabama either. No need to worry about this point. As mentioned below, he will official visit January 20th.
- Mario Pender - from all our sources, he's enrolled and attending classes. There is no need to worry about Tennessee.
- Ronald Darby- Five star Notre Dame decommitment from Maryland. Should be a FSU-Clemson battle. Rumor has it that Florida State leads because of their track program, and he wants to play with WR Marvin Bracy (fastest high school runner ever).
- AJ Leggett- will enroll at Marshall. He's not coming to Florida State, where he would've been a sign and place.
- Early Enrollees- JUCO OL Daniel Glauser, RB Mario Pender, P Cason Beatty
Official Visits
1/13/2011
WR Nelson Agholor
OT Menelik Watson- Juco OT who has been playing football for only a year. One of the best athletes you will find on the offensive line, but is just learning the game.
DE Mario Edwards
QB Sean Maguire
TE Christo Kourtzidis
LB Markuss Eligwe
WR Ricardo Louis
DB Colin Blake
DB Ronald Darby
Note: Dr Krop Athlete Johnnie Durante and CB Colin Blake are working on setting up official visits. More info on Blake here
1/20/2012
OL Andrus Peat
LB Josh Clemons
QB Jameis Winston
Update 1/16
- Added the 2012 recruiting board.
- Florida State's minimum needs
Please keep in mind that it is unlikely all of these players will qualify. FSU is unlikely to enroll 25 players or anything like that.
QB Sean Maguire
QB Jameis Winston
RB Delmarick "Mario" Pender
WR Marvin Bracy
TE Christo Kourtzidis
1 RB/WR/TE Ricardo Louis
OL Daniel Glauser
OL
OL (Optional)
DE Dante Fowler, Jr.
DE Chris Casher
DE Mario Edwards, Jr.
DT Dalvon Stuckey
DT Justin Shanks
DL?
LB Markuss Eligwe
LB ?
DB P. J. Williams
DB (Optional)
1-2 DB/LB/DL
K Roberto Aguayo
P Cason Beatty
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I have the GMAT tomorrow at 8am.
Didn’t want this thread to balloon up to to 1000 comments by the time I got home tomorrow.
anddd… back to recruiting.
All I want for NSD is Eddie Goldman...
GOOD LUCK!
We were all created to be Seminoles. This is why we bleed garnet and piss gold.
by NoleThruandThru on Jan 19, 2012 10:36 PM EST up reply actions
I knew
we would have a new thread before the night ended. Kind of a shame too, I had some “green” material going in that las thread. Guess were not all meant to be NT&T!!!!
"Recruiting is like shaving. You better do it everyday or you will look like a bum"
If it's not to much trouble.
Can we get a recap of the last thread in the first post of the new threads? I find when I wake up in the morning that I’m 200 comments behind and a new thread has already started. Or I could just be complaining.
Noteable recaps are updated by DA-2 in the body of the thread text at the top.
'Gentlemen, it is better to have died a small boy than to fumble this football.' John Heisman
Yeah, just complaining I think.
It honestly only takes a couple seconds if you are worried about missing something. Plus I don’t know who would volunteer to do these recaps. Sound like book reports.
I took that one. It's not bad.
Good luck!
by PeachTreeNole on Jan 20, 2012 12:31 PM EST up reply actions
Good luck remember not to get too hung up on any question
2 mins per Quant if it’s too hard keep moving. Also don’t worry if you get an easy question it’s probably an experimental anyway. You’ll crush.
The Funk Phenomenon.
Where will the following prospects go? Curious what folks think, I'm sure y'all know my predictions on them by now
Leonard Williams
Colin Blake
Nelson Agholor
Tracy Howard
Ronald Darby
Ricardo Louis
Reggie Northrup
Eddie Goldman
We were all created to be Seminoles. This is why we bleed garnet and piss gold.
by NoleThruandThru on Jan 19, 2012 11:12 PM EST reply actions
we have 15 commits so…..
Leonard Williams-AU
Colin Blake-FSU
Nelson Agholor-USC
Tracy Howard-FSU
Ronald Darby-AU
Ricardo Louis-FSU
Reggie Northrup-FSU
Eddie Goldman-FSU
by themonsta15 on Jan 19, 2012 11:44 PM EST up reply actions
This super optimistic....
i like it. If we cant have Nelson, i downt want the gata to have him either.
by HOOSIER NOLE on Jan 20, 2012 11:53 AM EST up reply actions
Are you just making a WAG....?
I actually saw Howard doing a gator chomp. If that means anything.
BTW…WAG=Wild ass guess…:)
Williams FSU or Auburn
Blake FSU
Nelson UF
Howard UF
Darby FSU
Louis FSU
Northrup FSU
Goldman FSU
Watson FSU
Peat NEB
JHC UGA
Diggs AUB
NolesRx
NoleTide!
Williams FSU or Auburn
Blake A&M
Nelson FU
Howard FU
Darby FSU
Louis FSU
Northrup FSU
Goldman FSU
Watson FSU
Peat FSU
JHC UGA
Diggs Auburn
21 or 22 Depending on Williams
by Tony Mustian on Jan 20, 2012 2:09 AM EST up reply actions
I like this but change Nelson to USC or FSU and Howard to LSU and we have a deal
GO NOLES!!! SCALP EM!
Leonard Williams – FSU
Colin Blake – FSU
Nelson Agholor – Florida
Tracy Howard – Florida
Ricardo Louis – FSU
Ronald Darby – FSU
Eddie Goldman – FSU
Menelik Watson – FSU
Andrus Peat – Nebrask
Reggie Northrup – FSU
Stefon Diggs – Florida
Josh Harvey Clemons – Georgia
by FSUnolefan on Jan 21, 2012 12:03 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Agholor, Howard, and Diggs to UF
That would be quite a finish for Musk-champ
I prefer Muffcramp
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by jskipnole on Jan 21, 2012 1:03 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Even if UF gets Howard, Agholor and Diggs..
Are we sure they will be able to develop them.. I’m not confident Agholor will be successful at UF all i keep thinking about is how hyped Andre Debose’ was coming out of high school.. He hasn’t lived up to it so far.. Howard probably will be a good CB There, I’m not sure Diggs ends up there either.
Agholor has the mental make up
that Debose lacks.
also lacks the torn hamstring and busted ankle
"Sweet baby Jesus on Fire, I'm need of a damn lawyer and a miracle to pull my ass out of this."
L. Williams – UF
Blake – TA&M
Agholor – USC
Howard – FSU ?? if UF then Leggett is FSU
Darby – FSU
Louis – FSU
Northrup – FSU
Goldman – FSU
Watson – FSU
Peat – ? Nebraska ?
Those are the final 6 guys in this class. That puts us at 21. Either Howard is a Nole or Leggett is. Peat is a possibility and we would make room for him. We can easily sign 22. I dont think we lose anyone at this point. A month ago I was worried our class could fall apart. Now I’m thinking we could close like a freight train.
Leggett has already committed to Marshall
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by freshcollegeboy on Jan 20, 2012 11:16 AM EST up reply actions
Has he signed anything?
Then he’s no more committed than Louis. If FSU wanted Leggett, Leggett would be a Nole.
Another question
Anyone think FSU loses any current verbal commits?
We were all created to be Seminoles. This is why we bleed garnet and piss gold.
by NoleThruandThru on Jan 20, 2012 12:11 AM EST reply actions
I would agree with that
"Recruiting is like shaving. You better do it everyday or you will look like a bum"
Fowler was asked about if there was room for Williams or something to that effect and he said something to the effect of Me, Chris (casher) and mario is enough.
right after last weeks OVs He was asked if he was able to sway Williams
And he said Why would i sway leonard when we alredy got 3 d-ends? Outta me mario and chris thats good enough"
his quote is copy and pasted directly off his facebook page. that is exactly what he said
I dont really think Fowler decommits is Williams comes aboard.
The only thing I’ve read is Fowler saying “3 DE’s is enough”. I know he’s seemed shaky at times but I’ve read nothing saying he’ll decommit if we add Williams. Maybe I missed a comment somewhere but I haven’t seen it. Wouldn’t they play on opposite sides of the line anyways?
by jenolesone on Jan 20, 2012 12:20 AM EST via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
Fowler seems like
the kind of kid that would feel disrespected. He’s an attention hound and signing Williams may be percieved by DF as FSU not showing enough love/respect for him. Agree/Disagree???
"Recruiting is like shaving. You better do it everyday or you will look like a bum"
Keep in mind,
this kid was in an ego war with his coach for quite a while
"Recruiting is like shaving. You better do it everyday or you will look like a bum"
Bingo. It just feels like an either/or situation with Williams and Fowler, it’d be unbelievable to get both.
I was a little surprised
that given DF’s issues with his coach that CJF stuck with him. Maybe Jimbo knows that DF’s feelings are easily hurt and wanted to show him some love in an attempt to gain DF’s trust and loyalty. In any case, I’m just surprised that Jimbo would accept that. I also think that DF’s maturity issues will catch up with him at the next level. Getting Williams and losing Fowler could be a blessing
"Recruiting is like shaving. You better do it everyday or you will look like a bum"
Fowler
We have to remember we the fans, Coaches, fellow students, teachers, principals, townspeople, put the super stars on a Pedestal. I am a lot older and I would probably react to that much attention, and especially at 18 I sure my actions wouldn’t please everyone.
The spotlight highligts every weakness. However, there are only so many 5 star athletes and they have done a lot of work to get to this point.
by rspknole1 on Jan 20, 2012 8:08 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
You forgot
doctors, lawyers, indian chiefs, clergymen and gas station attendants
"Recruiting is like shaving. You better do it everyday or you will look like a bum"
forgot
I can’t believe I left out gas station attendants
I am a real person
A Seminole warrior killed in battle is a legend remembered. A Gator lost in battle becomes a pair of boots and a belt.
twitter of random stuff and tons of confessing FSU love Follow @caine115
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and i just need this
and this and this
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Rec for common sense!!
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See ya later gator hater
In a bowl, Seminole!
I think you give Jimbo too much credit
He’s gonna do he’s gotta do to get elite players like Fowler. More often than not, they won’t be choirboys…every coach puts up with these issues.
Formerly known as Randall W. Spetman.
by CornNole on Jan 20, 2012 11:34 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Would losing
include academic casualties??
"Recruiting is like shaving. You better do it everyday or you will look like a bum"
I meant guys flipping to other schools
We were all created to be Seminoles. This is why we bleed garnet and piss gold.
by NoleThruandThru on Jan 20, 2012 12:18 AM EST up reply actions
I feel very confidant
Don’t think anyone leaves. Not even DF if Williams commits.
by stop drop & nole on Jan 20, 2012 1:44 AM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
MEJ offical to LSU?
has anyone got word if he is going to take his OV?
Peat
Everyone seems to leave him off the mock lists. FWIW, in an interview on Jeff Cameron show yesterday, “WC founder” said he believes after visit this weekend with his parents, he believes Peat ends up here over Nebraska.
by davisp3 on Jan 20, 2012 7:40 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
I don't put much at all into Gene's predictions
They just put some out, and his were absurd… I don’t disagree necessarily on Peat, but others
Kinda makes you want to buy a subscription, doesn't it?
'Gentlemen, it is better to have died a small boy than to fumble this football.' John Heisman
by Nattylite on Jan 20, 2012 8:28 AM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Very
I’m convinced that as crazy as some of these paid site predictions are, they are made for a singular purpose (ir)regardless of the outcome.
They aren’t worried about looking stupid. All they care about is intriguing the next customer.
Now, even with saying that, some of the sites out there are way, way, way, way better than others.
'Gentlemen, it is better to have died a small boy than to fumble this football.' John Heisman
And it varies from school site to school site. Most nationals are interested in the almighty dollar
One of the writers tweeted that he doesn’t control headlines, national editors do, after a particularly misleading headline.
Typically the individual contributors are what matter. IE J. Newberg for 247 seems to be pretty good typically. His e-fights with a certain contributor for another certain site are funny.
I heard the same interview
Started at hour 2. Had some good info on there regarding scholarships available. Won’t buy into his predictions or subscribe. Liked what he had to say about Peat, but don’t buy into the accuracy of it
by nole your enemy on Jan 20, 2012 8:32 AM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
All you need to know about Gene, in 2004 he flashed a picture up that had William Williams, DeMario Pressley, and couple of other big names as coming to FSU.
He got pilloried for that picture for a looooooong time afterwards.
Like I said, FWIW
We’ve beaten it like a dead horse, but Gene also thought we’d get Clowney last year for a time…and we were never really in the cards for that one.
LWilliams list in ESPN 150
as a DT? That could be inviting if he comes in as a DT. Fowler, Cashier and MEJ as DE
If Stuckey doesnt get the scores to get in.
Then FSU should take Williams.
by zewhitedevil on Jan 20, 2012 9:53 AM EST up reply actions
Stuckey
I believe he is a Sign and Place deal. If he doesn’t qualify he goes JUCO. Wish him the best. I do recall a year or 2 ago when we did same with Damien Jacobs sign and place, and now he signed with Florida.
We didn't intend to sign and place him, it just sorta happened
Shot a Gator in Jean Shorts just to watch him die.
by AMFKNole on Jan 21, 2012 12:23 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Marvin Bracy the fastest HS runner ever?
Houston McTear and Pharnell Raines would disagree, but they ran the 100 yard dash, not 100 meter.
Tom I assume. Didn't realize he had that sort of speed.
by Nole2005 on Jan 20, 2012 8:41 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
yup very deceptive
"Recruiting is like shaving. You better do it everyday or you will look like a bum"
by Noleviedo on Jan 20, 2012 8:42 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I think he means Wayne
He was a hell of an athlete who had to chose between olympic golds and his comedy.
I have no credibility on the subject of speed.
These days, you can time my 40 with a calender
"Recruiting is like shaving. You better do it everyday or you will look like a bum"
by Noleviedo on Jan 20, 2012 8:44 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I agree if FU times you. Everyone on the 2008 FU team ran a 4.2-4.4 according to their charts
I believe Bracy’s best time in 2011 was 10.01 and Demps 10.28
GO NOLES!!! SCALP EM!
Perhaps FU purchased the trial version stop watch by mistake,
which only goes up to 4.4 seconds.
by amandell3000 on Jan 20, 2012 12:14 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Bracy beat Demps and is labeled the fastest ever I though. Including basically running a sub 10sec 100 wind wided
GO NOLES!!! SCALP EM!
See what happens when you try to type as fast as Bracy runs.
by zewhitedevil on Jan 20, 2012 9:55 AM EST up reply actions
in what type of race, though?
The claim was that he’s the fastest HS runner ever Perhaps in the 100 metter, but likely not in the 100 yard..
by PeachTreeNole on Jan 20, 2012 12:09 PM EST up reply actions
If you are fastest in the 100m ever, you are likely the fastest in the 100 yard too.
My photo appeared in the Nightlife photo collage of the FSView for six weeks in-a-row. That’s who I am.
I see that the difference between 100 meters and 100 yards is larger than I thought, but when people talk about fastest person ever they almost exclusively use meters since it is the Olympic distance.
My photo appeared in the Nightlife photo collage of the FSView for six weeks in-a-row. That’s who I am.
that's a fairly recent development too.
Used to be 100 yard dash was the standard. I was in a track meet with Houston McTear. Thankfully, I didn;t run against him. Unbelievable.
by PeachTreeNole on Jan 20, 2012 12:51 PM EST up reply actions
HS used to always be yards right?
My photo appeared in the Nightlife photo collage of the FSView for six weeks in-a-row. That’s who I am.
yep.
Until school curriculae promulgated by special interest group began to poison our young people’s minds with the notion that all other countries and systems were equal or superior to our own :)
by PeachTreeNole on Jan 20, 2012 3:28 PM EST up reply actions
You’re looking at it in total time to total distance. Gotta break it down into seconds per yard. 10.3 seconds in the 100 meter is faster than 10.0 seconds in the 100 yard
Guy on a Buffalo
by SteadfastNole on Jan 20, 2012 12:53 PM EST up reply actions
Demps ran a 10.01 in hs
Bracy ran a 10.05 wind aided time. Most of Bracy’s times were 10.15 to 10.3 at meets.
I wasn’t arguing who is faster. Bracy is fast enough for me
Guy on a Buffalo
by SteadfastNole on Jan 20, 2012 1:29 PM EST up reply actions
Sorry Steadfast. Just tring to throw some info in
the Bracy discussion. He’s more than fast enough for me as well.
Makes rabbits look slow but thought I throw the following in this discussion as well…………"On March 26, 2011, Bracy won the men’s open 100-meter dash title at FSU Relays in Tallahassee. He clocked a 10.28-second time, a new career best. Bracy also tied for No. 4 on the Florida all-time list with 2008 Olympic bronze medalist Walter Dix, who clocked a 10.28 time as a Coral Springs High School senior in 2004.
In June 2011, Bracy ran away with the 100-meter dash title at the 2011 USA Track and Field Junior Championships in Eugene, Oregon, clocking the second-fastest time in Florida high school history, 10.05 seconds. Only Jeff Demps, co-holder of the junior world record (10.01 sec), sits atop of Bracy in the all-time list. If it had not been for the wind-assistance (+2.2 m/s), Bracy’s time would be placed sixth on the IAAF all-time junior toplist, behind only Demps, Darrel Brown, Marcus Rowland, D’Angelo Cherry and Christophe Lemaitre."
For what it’s worth, Demps is devoting himself to making the US Olympic track team.
Those times as a Junior are incredible. I see him succeeding in making the US Olympic track team. I also see him anchoring our 4×1 team
Guy on a Buffalo
by SteadfastNole on Jan 20, 2012 1:41 PM EST up reply actions
you can't do it that way.
It’s not linear, Also, where in the longer race the 100 yarsd fall makes a difference too. For example, Bob Hayes ran 100 yards in 8.9 seconds in the ‘64 Olympics— the fasest human ever clocked over that distance. But it wasn’t from a static start; it was part of a relay leg
by PeachTreeNole on Jan 20, 2012 1:25 PM EST up reply actions
Comparing 100 to 110 isn’t exactly linear either
Guy on a Buffalo
by SteadfastNole on Jan 20, 2012 1:30 PM EST up reply actions
yard/second, I mean.
Not a straight comparison when the races are for different total distances. That’s why the statement “fastest HS runner ever” has to be modified by stating the particular type of race.
by PeachTreeNole on Jan 20, 2012 1:33 PM EST up reply actions
I always give a tie to the Nole player. Or if its somewhat close to tie
Guy on a Buffalo
by SteadfastNole on Jan 20, 2012 1:36 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Dude, speed is all relative.
It really only matters if the players can “SEPERATE” themselves from everyone else on the field, in their peer group.
I recall Homer Jones doing that. Bob Hayes also did.
Numbers are nice, but as the smart guys point out…..everyone seems to be to “Shoot an angle” to make the number seem faster than it is, in this world of hype, in which we live.
Yea, but I would rather have the guy you have to take a good angle at
by Potbellyssuperstar on Jan 20, 2012 7:26 PM EST up reply actions
Bracy holds the record for best junior time
might pass Demps this spring track season though for all time best time.
by Wild@Heart Nole on Jan 20, 2012 9:44 AM EST up reply actions
Now that would make me smile.
If the kid has world class speed and could be ready for the Olympics by his senior year, then playing football, taking a pounding on his legs,and developing football musculature would not be in his best interest for that purpose. But likely more money in the long run.
by PeachTreeNole on Jan 20, 2012 1:29 PM EST up reply actions
15 going on 22?
If we don’t have any silents, then I don’t see how we are going to sign 7 of the top non-committed. This appears unrealistic, however, if we do crown JIMBO as KING.
Also, I’m sure that a lot of teams don’t have much room, Alabama trying to get people to come in January instead of September. I don’t think that works with the very top recruits.
The only recruits we are mentioning are the very best. If we drop down, what position do we take?
Don't think we will take, just to take this year.
'Gentlemen, it is better to have died a small boy than to fumble this football.' John Heisman
agreed
I dont think it fits in to Jimbo’s philosophy to “take, just to take”. IIRC prior to the 2011 recruiting cycle both Bud and Michael consistantly made points that Jimbo would only sign players that met the caliber of a top rated team and would wait until a new cycle rather than signing a kid that couldn’t compete at the highest level
"Recruiting is like shaving. You better do it everyday or you will look like a bum"
Glad to see Miami has chosen the opposite approach.
'Gentlemen, it is better to have died a small boy than to fumble this football.' John Heisman
by Nattylite on Jan 20, 2012 9:37 AM EST up reply actions 6 recs
IMO LB
I see that we are talking to a few LB and it is the one position where we need numbers.
ok
who are all the LBs we are talking to besides JHC and Northrup??
"Recruiting is like shaving. You better do it everyday or you will look like a bum"
NT&T and DA-2 have maintained all along
That should we miss on JHC, we will wait until next cycle.
Northrup is definitely a take, but we will not “reach” at LB.
'Gentlemen, it is better to have died a small boy than to fumble this football.' John Heisman
agreed
thats my point exactly Natty. Its JHC and Northrup. One or the other (probably Northrup, highly unlike I know for JHC) or we wait for a good crop in 2013. I do not know of a single LB other than those 2 that we are talking to. You???
"Recruiting is like shaving. You better do it everyday or you will look like a bum"
yes
but that ship has sailed
"Recruiting is like shaving. You better do it everyday or you will look like a bum"
Here is what we bring back
7 Christian Jones LB Jr.
48 Jeff Luc LB Jr.
57 Holmes Onwukaife LB So. RS
22 Telvin Smith LB Jr.
24 Terrance Smith LB So.
28 Nigel Terrell LB So. RS
11 Vince Williams LB Sr.
46 Vincent Zann LB Sr. RS
Losing Arrington Jenkins because of that idiot who left his motorcycle out for someone to steal really hurt here.
Moving Moody to OLB will help and hopefully we bring in Northrup.
We need to pick up 1 or 2 at least next year and totally reload in ’13, but we look solid for a good 2 deep in all 3 spots next year and “alright” for ’13 as long as a few chips fall our way and we can keep a few guys from going NFL. (Praying we can somehow hold on to Christian Jones for his SR year)
'Gentlemen, it is better to have died a small boy than to fumble this football.' John Heisman
by Nattylite on Jan 20, 2012 10:07 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
In similar news
Looking like the nickel package for ’13 will be a great gameplan.
'Gentlemen, it is better to have died a small boy than to fumble this football.' John Heisman
well done Natty
The Moody situation brings up a good point in regards to “how” we recruit. It is no secret that this staff prefers the “hybrid” athlete. i.e a LB or can play safety or vice vesa; a CB who can play Safety or vice versa.
"Recruiting is like shaving. You better do it everyday or you will look like a bum"
bring back
Holmes is injured out I thought?
Zann WO, Sr next year
I look at it as one injury away and you are having to transfer people around or trying to play a 210 lb LB every down.
Next year, or '13?
'Gentlemen, it is better to have died a small boy than to fumble this football.' John Heisman
If Jimbo can keep CJ7 for his senior year, I'd be surprised.
He’s already very good, and I’d imagine a year out from under the shadow of hard-hitting Nigel won’t hurt his stock at all
don't count on it
He has first round written all over him as a junior.
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by freshcollegeboy on Jan 20, 2012 11:24 AM EST up reply actions
I see this a lot
I realize he passes the eye test but do you think his stats will bear that out? He had less tackles than Mike Harris last year.
Put another way, what do you think his stats would need to look like for him to be a first round talent after next year?
Greatness is consistency and performance over a long period of time - CJF
Terrance Smith
Thought he was taking a shirt. He end up playing on special teams?
He better not sell it, don't wanna end up like tOSU
NolesRx
NoleTide!
by FSuni on Jan 20, 2012 2:12 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Better than a Motorcycle I guess
'Gentlemen, it is better to have died a small boy than to fumble this football.' John Heisman
motorcycles are not sold around tally....
#fairgame (still love me some arrington and support him 100%, hope he comes back)
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NoleTide!
Is this the yr we see Luc contribute significantly ?
by Tony Mustian on Jan 20, 2012 12:13 PM EST up reply actions
LB next year
Bringing Back:
Christian Jones
Vince Williams
Telvin Smith
Terrance Smith
Jeff Luc
Nigel Terrell
Holmes Onwukaife – Medical believe he is done
Bringing in:
Ukeme Eligwe
Reggie Northrup
Losing Out On:
Josh Harvey Clemons
Kwon Alexander (My opinion never really had a shot at him)
Need to Reload in 2013 Recruting Class at LB.
I dont know if Jones comes back after this season
A Seminole warrior killed in battle is a legend remembered. A Gator lost in battle becomes a pair of boots and a belt.
twitter of random stuff and tons of confessing FSU love http://twitter.com/caine115
F THE ACC ..|.. <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
he could be a first rounder
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twitter of random stuff and tons of confessing FSU love Follow @caine115
F THE ACC ..|.. <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
WILL be
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5 first rounders for 2013 draft
Joyner
Jenkins
Werner
Rhodes
Green
Not to mention Tank will be drafted in 3-4 round prob, Reid goes somewhere in the area possibly, Thats how sick out 2012 defense will be. We will basically have an NFL defense at half the positions and future ones rounding it out
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twitter of random stuff and tons of confessing FSU love Follow @caine115
F THE ACC ..|.. <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Green as in Christian or Rashad??
b/c Rashad will only be a Soph. and Christian, although he’ll technically be eligible for the draft, has A LOT to prove and is nowhere close to a first round pick right now.
I do agree on all the others however
I think he probably meant Christian jones
by fscubsu9 on Jan 22, 2012 10:31 AM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
oooooooooh
that would make a lot more sense lol
^ - This. Joyner isn't going pro early as a Safety.
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You had me laughin’ natty…woohoo you’re a HOOT
by RobbSeminole on Jan 22, 2012 10:17 AM EST up reply actions
Jenkins can play a little outside inan occasional 3-4. Not that it matters for LB numbers, just reminder of his assets!
Obsessed with Seminole football!!
FSU used to regularly pull things like 15 going on 22
back to the past? Maybe. And when FSU did things like that, it was often by pulling in over half the top uncommitted prospects.
by Wild@Heart Nole on Jan 20, 2012 9:46 AM EST up reply actions
Bobby in his Prime.
A little nanner pudding and a few bible lessons on the in-home visits and momma’s would melt.
'Gentlemen, it is better to have died a small boy than to fumble this football.' John Heisman
sure
Back when we had only a handful of commits going into the “recruiting season”?? and that was back when NSD was THE day that we learned where recruits were headed, right???
"Recruiting is like shaving. You better do it everyday or you will look like a bum"
I have a legitimate question
Why do we even care all year round who we think is going to sign with us? Why not just wait till signing day and see who eventually does sign and evaluate them then? Aren’t we just contributing to these kids ego’s and the behaviors and games that they have been playing in recent years?
At least I have Chicken!
-Leeroy Jenkins
Before I answer
Please prove the legitimacy of this question.
'Gentlemen, it is better to have died a small boy than to fumble this football.' John Heisman
Just messin' with you.
It’s Friiiiidaaayyyyy.
'Gentlemen, it is better to have died a small boy than to fumble this football.' John Heisman
I thought you were only not serious on Wednesday?
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by freshcollegeboy on Jan 20, 2012 11:25 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
And during recruiting season
Yes, I know that technically means all year.
'Gentlemen, it is better to have died a small boy than to fumble this football.' John Heisman
ARE YOU SERIOUS
Look at the number of responses on here, threads fill up in a day, look at the number on warchant, the number on 247, on Espn and on almost every football site at every school. People on Twitter every second, hanging on every word
It is because recruiting is the best measurment for where your program is headed. Recruiting is where it all begins. See the1985/‘86 recruiting classes. They set the tone for what would become a dynasty. Please read my signature line, it’s the best reason why I can explain the importance and subsequent following of recruiting
"Recruiting is like shaving. You better do it everyday or you will look like a bum"
because there are no games being played this time of year?
by PeachTreeNole on Jan 20, 2012 12:21 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
In the immortal words of dirty Joe
“Well, huh, might as, might as well ask why is a tree good? Why is the sunset good? Why are boobs good? Man, firecrackers, ya stick ’em in mailboxes, you drop ’em in toilets, shove ’em up bullfrogs butts.”
by imissrix on Jan 20, 2012 8:59 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Ricardo Louis visiting UGA this weekend.
The story is mainly about another Auburn commit Jaquay Williams visiting but also says Louis is visiting also.
Hey guys, just a heads up. Let’s close these thread at 600, not 450ish. The technology has improved, and most people on mobile now use the app.
by Bud Elliott on Jan 20, 2012 10:09 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
thanks Bud
there was some good discussions going in the last thread before it closed. I realize that DA had some prior commitments and thats what precipitated the closing of the last thread. Thanks
"Recruiting is like shaving. You better do it everyday or you will look like a bum"
Wow after you said this, I had to recheck the SB nation app, and found out that you can now add your favorite blog to your lineup. I guess this is a newer feature along with the ability to access the fanposts. This is a tremendous find
Guy on a Buffalo
by SteadfastNole on Jan 20, 2012 1:04 PM EST up reply actions
Ok, for discussion purposes, a lot of folks like to look at Mocks. Here is one I came up with yesterday.
QB Sean Maguire
QB Jameis Winston
RB Delmarick “Mario” Pender (EE)
WR Marvin Bracy
WR Ricardo Louis
TE Christo Kourtzidis
OL Daniel Glauser (EE)
OL Melenik Watson
DE Dante Fowler, Jr.
DE Chris Casher
DE Mario Edwards, Jr.
DT Dalvon Stuckey (sign and place)
DT Justin Shanks
DT Eddie Goldman
LB Markuss Eligwe
LB Reggie Northrup
DB P. J. Williams
DB Ronald Darby
DB Colin Blake
K Roberto Aguayo
P Cason Beatty (EE)
**Signing day bonus: Leonard Williams. I think we make room here if Leonard wants in the class late in the game.
'Gentlemen, it is better to have died a small boy than to fumble this football.' John Heisman
I dont believe anyone knows for sure with Stuckey.
But since its a sliding grade scale its a little of both I believe. Heck, I was reading yesterday that he doesn’t know his test scores. Or so he says. GPA is a 2.9 from what I’ve read. Someone correct me if I’m wrong.
by jenolesone on Jan 20, 2012 10:34 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Correct
All of that was in the last thread
by flfisher1423 on Jan 20, 2012 10:43 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
I concur with this class
But I think Leonard goes elsewhere and we get some Trickett special.
We miss on Peat, Nelson Algohor & Howard. I think Louis is a great “replacement” for Nelson and Darby/Blake for Howard. This class is super duper gang!
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I like how you put replacement in quotes.
IMO Louis is on the same level as NA. Dude is a freak!!!
"Recruiting is like shaving. You better do it everyday or you will look like a bum"
Nice
I agree that LW is a bonus.
"Recruiting is like shaving. You better do it everyday or you will look like a bum"
reply fail
meant for Natty’s mock post
"Recruiting is like shaving. You better do it everyday or you will look like a bum"
Michael, you said on twitter that Pender could possibly be the most talented RB that Eddie Gran has ever worked with. Now thats saying something.
Guy on a Buffalo
by SteadfastNole on Jan 20, 2012 12:39 PM EST up reply actions
From a physical standpoint Pender could got to the NFL combine this year and put up some of the top #’s as a RB. He has that type of speed/acceleration/explosiveness and is close to 205lbs. His speed translates to the field and he is a natural RB with pretty good vision.
That makes me tingly
Guy on a Buffalo
by SteadfastNole on Jan 20, 2012 1:31 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I was assuming that
his leaving everyone in the dust on film was because of slow, SW Fla competition. Happy to be wrong.
Dogs bark in the night but the caravan moves on.
So much faster than everyone esle
cant wait for him to play for FSU
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I can sit back and enjoy the rest of recruiting season now that Pender is official.
I viewed him as the most important recruit in this class in the biggest area of need as we really only have one true HB in Freeman. Outside that we have a bunch of FB type guys in Beverly, Pryor, and JWJ. Without Pender, an injury to Freeman wouldve been devastating to the versatility of our backfield. * I dont mention Thompson due to the severity of his injury.
"I dont hate people. I just feel better when they aren't around." -Bukowski
by cerebralfish on Jan 21, 2012 10:16 AM EST up reply actions
Dalvon Stuckey
Lost a star on rivals in their updated rankings: http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/recruiting/player-Dalvon-Stuckey-109236
OSU has made a huge push and is now 3rd. God I hate Urban Meyer!
by newdynastynole on Jan 20, 2012 10:45 AM EST reply actions
They also have MEJ listed as a DT
What’s wrong with them…
They can call him the waterboy for all they want
He is still going to get a shot at defensive end.
'Gentlemen, it is better to have died a small boy than to fumble this football.' John Heisman
He's no JWJ, and they're not "giving him a shot"
I don’t believe this staff has any intention to have him play anything other then DE (except on passing downs). Get him in our S&C program and watch him lose 15lbs while adding speed and strength. By next year, he will dominate RT’s all day long :)
"If you want to see me, come watch me on Fridays. I play in pads."
-(Future FSU Star) Mario Pender
by SoCalNole on Jan 20, 2012 1:22 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Ok... so semantics? Let me try again - Mario Edwards is going come in as a defensive end. Stating things as permanent and final just isn't my thing.
Peter La Fleur: I know. I just said that.
White Goodman: I know you just said that.
Peter La Fleur: Okay, I’m not sure where you’re going with this.
White Goodman: Well, I’m not sure where you’re going with this.
Peter La Fleur: That’s what I said.
White Goodman: That’s what I’m saying to you.
Peter La Fleur: All right.
White Goodman: …Touché.
'Gentlemen, it is better to have died a small boy than to fumble this football.' John Heisman
by Nattylite on Jan 20, 2012 1:29 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Recd for "Dodgeball" reference
One of my all-time faves plus i play in a dodgeball league, and were currently 9-1, in sole possession of first place and avenged our only loss last night.
Also worth mentioning i really want Darby in this class!
Control the Sunshine State & sooner or later you'll control the country.
Now that's good clean family fun!
'see da broad ta get tha booty yackum, layem down smackum yackum...ho got ta be.... shiiiiiit!' 'early to bed early to rise makes a man healthy wealthy and wise'
But can you dodge a wrench? Can Darby catch one?
Didn’t think so.
by PeachTreeNole on Jan 20, 2012 4:18 PM EST up reply actions
all recruiting sites evaluate players in general, i.e.,
for all programs and no programs. This is why a player who is evaluated as a 3* can be great if placed in the right scheme or position.
Championship!
Check out this article on rankings http://www.sbnation.com/college-football-recruiting/2012/1/20/2719444/college-football-recruiting-rankings-2012-sb-nation-efficiency-index
by Bud Elliott on Jan 20, 2012 11:28 AM EST up reply actions
I was agreeing until I saw that the author said that
FSU doesn’t have the best class… the author clearly knows nothing about recruiting….
Championship!
For the most part Bud is right.
A few weeks ago, I blasted him, and the system out of the water.
I apologize! To Lugz, also for calling him arrogant. He is a guy doing the best he can, and doing a damn fine job!
I was the arrogant one.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6n28pPDHsR4&feature=related
los, joyner, reid, bracy who do you kick it to?
by reid-the-manuel on Jan 20, 2012 11:26 AM EST reply actions
Now we're talkin'
"Recruiting is like shaving. You better do it everyday or you will look like a bum"
I love the Auburn Slant they have
BMatt247 Bryan Matthews
WR Ricardo Louis opens his recruitment back up (VIP) auburn.247sports.com/Board/Topic/42… via @247Sports
No Bryan…. He committed to FSU, it’s over.
rivals posted it too!!!!!
I fear no man, for the lord is my Shepard, and his will is my striking staff.
by pitbornagain on Jan 20, 2012 12:15 PM EST up reply actions
We just landed an awesome prospect
I hope he stays at WR but he could turn out like XR27 if need dictates it
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by NoleThruandThru on Jan 20, 2012 12:25 PM EST up reply actions
QB n high school
I like that and a 40I" vertical jump=AWESOME He can play wherever we put him.
Was trying to figure that out myself, because that twitter doesn’t say anything about FSU today…
by newdynastynole on Jan 20, 2012 12:09 PM EST up reply actions
I think the original poster was saying that it was on twitter (247sports posted)
Not that he personally said it on his account.
AHHHHH HA HA HA this made me jump and down a little bit
Love guys that flip to us more than anything else, especially sweet since it’s from Auburn.
Am I the meanest? Am I the prettiest? Am I the baddest mofo low down around this town? Well who am I? Who am I?
I can't hear you..
by STAquinasNole on Jan 20, 2012 12:20 PM EST up reply actions
can anyone explain
the huge discrepancy in Louis’ rating on ESPNU & everywhere else? & which is (more) accurate?
Championship!
by TLHWG on Jan 20, 2012 12:58 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
FWIW, Tom Loy of FL Varsity has him at 16th in state, and I believe 3rd in FL receivers
I put a lot more stock into his numbers than national rivals numbers
Man O Man!! Ronald Darby!!
If you haven’t yet, check out the vids of Darby. This is a good kid with blazing speed, real close to M Bracy. Like with Bracy, he looks like a MAN among small boys.
Jumbo and the rest of the recruiting maniacs plus our outstanding track program, plus his competing-friendship w Bracy, I predict will make him a Nole!
What say you??
NoleDoc
See ya later gator hater
In a bowl, Seminole!
Just for clarification, Ricardo Louis is official to FSU
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by NoleThruandThru on Jan 20, 2012 12:26 PM EST reply actions
Agholor hasn't been a legit option for some time
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by NoleThruandThru on Jan 20, 2012 12:38 PM EST up reply actions
I know, but do we now tell him specifically to look elsewhere?
by PeachTreeNole on Jan 20, 2012 1:37 PM EST up reply actions
Honestly don't think it matters what we say at this point
We were all created to be Seminoles. This is why we bleed garnet and piss gold.
by NoleThruandThru on Jan 20, 2012 1:45 PM EST up reply actions
Agreed. He really never considered FSU in my opinion, it was shocking that he took an official visit last weekend but my opinion he has been a silent Florida committment for quite some time now. Any thoughts?
Not shocking IMO
that he would OV to FSU. Would at least think he’d do that out of respect for Dawsey who he has a good relationship with apparently
by westcoastnolefan on Jan 21, 2012 1:07 PM EST up reply actions
He definitely considered but it was clear by Sept that it would take a miracle to sign him
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by NoleThruandThru on Jan 21, 2012 3:50 PM EST up reply actions
my daughter just got back from visiting there.
She texted that in Auburn they call a Japanese restaurant HI-botchi. Tells her all she needs to know. :)
by PeachTreeNole on Jan 20, 2012 12:36 PM EST up reply actions
ばか！
I guess it depends on why the kid de-commits, and how he does it. But Auburn fans just appear to be plain jerks.
"I spent 90 percent of my money on women and drink. The rest I wasted!"
SEC! SEC! SEC!
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by NoleThruandThru on Jan 20, 2012 12:38 PM EST up reply actions
Auburn Flip
How solid is Louis? any chance he flips back to auburn?
"You're always going to have those butterflies. If you don't then you're not a competitor and you're not a player. When you lose that feeling in your stomach that's when you need to not do it anymore. That's what makes it special and exciting."- Jimbo Fisher
Not worried
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by NoleThruandThru on Jan 20, 2012 12:38 PM EST up reply actions
Dorothy Mantooth is a SAINT!
"If you want to see me, come watch me on Fridays. I play in pads."
-(Future FSU Star) Mario Pender
Hearing that Darby could very well be the next to publicly commit
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by NoleThruandThru on Jan 20, 2012 12:38 PM EST reply actions
Think he will before Northrup?
Also, do you think that coaches ask players to commit certain days to help build momentum.
by TimScribble on Jan 20, 2012 12:40 PM EST up reply actions
i think they do
it can be used for momentum, so its almost like a strategic thing, thats just my opinion
Is it possible Louis committed during his visit and the coaches asked for him to hold off until today
so that his public announcement would generate a little buzz amongst the recruits coming in this weekend?
Also, wasn’t it Louis that caught Jamies Winston’s 71 yard TD in the UA Game or was that someone else?
by GermDaveNole on Jan 20, 2012 12:48 PM EST up reply actions
thats what i was thinking
now this weekend the coaches can say look at the newest addition to this class we are loading up and we also need you so sign up
Good question, not sure who will pop first but there's a lot of buzz right now with Darby
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by NoleThruandThru on Jan 20, 2012 12:49 PM EST up reply actions
Well Darby is a definite 'need'
No doubt about that.
by Buddy Reynolds on Jan 20, 2012 12:59 PM EST up reply actions
Be a helluva weekend
to get commits from two kids of that caliber!!
Tomahawk Nation- Great FSU football and English lessons!
We will get both I might add
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by NoleThruandThru on Jan 20, 2012 1:24 PM EST up reply actions
I say Reggie commits on sunday around 6:30 pm
Darby on tuesday…..
purely guesses here haha.
NolesRx
NoleTide!
For those wondering about Louis playing Safety.
Michael (Warchant) tweeted that FSU is recruiting him completely at WR.
Also, we’re now the second team with double-digit ESPN 150 commits (10), behind Alabama’s 12. FEAR THE SPEAR!
DadGummit.
Ok well if Michael said it, it must be true.
'Gentlemen, it is better to have died a small boy than to fumble this football.' John Heisman
Is there
a good chance that Darby commits to FSU this weekend along with Northrup? If so, what a weekend for FSU!!
by floridastateofmind on Jan 20, 2012 1:42 PM EST reply actions
Feel pretty good about a commit coming from Northrup.
Darby might or might not, but (ir)regardless, feel confident on him too come signing day.
'Gentlemen, it is better to have died a small boy than to fumble this football.' John Heisman
Yeah, hearing different things now about when Darby will announce
We’re gonna get him, just not sure when he will go public
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by NoleThruandThru on Jan 20, 2012 1:46 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
^^^
Like the sound of this
Tomahawk Nation- Great FSU football and English lessons!
Remember when people were mad about losing Chris Black to Bama?
I’m much happier with Louis. Still love Cooper @ WR though.
NolesRx
NoleTide!
I fully admit to being one of them because it seemed like he was the only true WR prospect FSU had invested in (considered Bracy an athlete for a while)
So happy with the way things have worked out though.
We were all created to be Seminoles. This is why we bleed garnet and piss gold.
by NoleThruandThru on Jan 20, 2012 2:20 PM EST up reply actions
He's just so "dime a dozen"
I like where we’re at.
Now about 2013…
Shot a Gator in Jean Shorts just to watch him die.
by AMFKNole on Jan 20, 2012 2:28 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
you like louis over black???
Not me. still bummed about that. Bama has a nasty wr class this yr
D-Hop has tiger blood
Didn't The U just offer another LB committed to Iowa State this morning?
As someone said, connect the dots.
I'm sure we will hear some BS story about his offer being pulled because he isn't UM material
I mean, he may not be UM material. He is a 4 star prospect after all, might be too highly rated for em.
We were all created to be Seminoles. This is why we bleed garnet and piss gold.
by NoleThruandThru on Jan 20, 2012 2:56 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
This coaching staff is awesome.
Moves like this just show recruits that we don’t wait on anyone.
We are in some very tight races on first come first serve situations and Ricardo pulled the trigger. Loving it!
“Get on the train or get run over by it” – Vince Williams
'Gentlemen, it is better to have died a small boy than to fumble this football.' John Heisman
by Nattylite on Jan 20, 2012 1:47 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
I give this staff all the credit in the world most of the time, but I somehow STILL always underestimate them. Crazy.
We were all created to be Seminoles. This is why we bleed garnet and piss gold.
by NoleThruandThru on Jan 20, 2012 1:54 PM EST up reply actions
Seriously
I halfway expect them to poll the fans about who they should recruit next. Just for a challenge
Guy on a Buffalo
by SteadfastNole on Jan 20, 2012 2:00 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
Haha and green
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by NoleThruandThru on Jan 20, 2012 2:20 PM EST up reply actions
the coaches are putting in serious work in these last 2 weeks
more work than you and I realize…. closing: they know how to do it.
Championship!
Once we beat ND here in Orlando
Their focus was closing BIG for 2012’s class. Expected from our staff…
Thanks for the ticket, BTW...
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Hopefully the momentum sustains
“he came across the middle, I laid the wood on him, he went to the sideline looking for his mouthpiece. That’s how that went. " – Los
by City_Nole on Jan 20, 2012 1:56 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I'm very excited that
we are looking to land some potentially good/great players. Something to consider, some may say that technically we missing on the “first choices” – Louis for Aglohor, Darby for Howard, Northrop for Clemons. That being said I don’t consider this settling as we have some quality choices remaining.
Question
Now that we’re closing in on NSD, can anyone with access to the various subscription services recommend which one to sign up for a trial for? Might sign up for one just to have some more stuff to read. Will cancel with prejudice before they try to charge me though of course. :)
Dan Patrick: "Is Ponder a good name for a quarterback?"
Christian Ponder: "Why? Because you say I overthink things? is that what you’re trying to imply? As crazy as it sounds, my mom’s maiden name is actually SuperBowlWinner. Isn’t that crazy?"
DP: "Now is that hyphenated?"
CP7: "No, it’s all one word."
Whichever one you pick
Just know that their forums do not abide by our policy of “respecting other posters”
Sorry, but you are on your own out there grasshopper!
'Gentlemen, it is better to have died a small boy than to fumble this football.' John Heisman
247 if your going to pay
info is pretty good over there. But honestly unless you like the boards it’s a waste. Pretty much everything NT&T or the other mods say is what 247 and the like say. Not to mention the info is free over here. Gotta love TN.
Just looking for supplemental info
Interviews, videos, more reading material. I’ve been on this site forever now and I’ll never leave, but as we get closer to NSD I’d like to read some more if there’s good stuff out there that I can get for free with a trial.
Dan Patrick: "Is Ponder a good name for a quarterback?"
Christian Ponder: "Why? Because you say I overthink things? is that what you’re trying to imply? As crazy as it sounds, my mom’s maiden name is actually SuperBowlWinner. Isn’t that crazy?"
DP: "Now is that hyphenated?"
CP7: "No, it’s all one word."
247
but TN can provide the same information (with less bias). I have 247 though and WC. something is wrong with me……
NolesRx
NoleTide!
cut the umbilical FS!!!
you dont need their shananigans
"Recruiting is like shaving. You better do it everyday or you will look like a bum"
LOL
I love TN as much as the next guy, but this is just simply not true.
Formerly known as Randall W. Spetman.
free "trial" huh??
It’s a trial reading some of that garbage sometimes but hey, if you gotta itch – scratch it. IMHO, TN’s recruiting discussions provide all you need. Just sayin…
"Recruiting is like shaving. You better do it everyday or you will look like a bum"
As we have been saying for a while.
'Gentlemen, it is better to have died a small boy than to fumble this football.' John Heisman
by Nattylite on Jan 20, 2012 2:01 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
annnnd green it
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by NoleThruandThru on Jan 20, 2012 2:21 PM EST up reply actions
Is it a race between Darby and Northrup to commit first?
I hear Darby’s not very fast…
Seriously though I’d rather have Darby. Position of need and this year is supposed to be weak on LB while next year is better.
We will get both so no worries
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by NoleThruandThru on Jan 20, 2012 2:55 PM EST up reply actions
Never seen you so confident before
at least not publicly. You usually temper everyone else’s expectations.
I’ll take it as a good sign.
Oh yeah, I am usually a realist about everything and try not to get swept up in rumors
The info I have on these two kids (from multiple people) is awesome though :)
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by NoleThruandThru on Jan 20, 2012 3:50 PM EST up reply actions
Agree on you being a realist and not overly confident about kids unless you receive good info
From several good people/sources
You mean a pessimist right?
Actually you’re usually pretty vague. It has to be decoded at times. I stopped worrying about this class about two weeks ago when it became more clear who are targets were/are
by westcoastnolefan on Jan 20, 2012 7:43 PM EST up reply actions
In my defense I don't think I'm pessimistic too often, I just try to temper people's expectations
It does bother me when people start spouting off that FSU is a large player for kids they really aren’t. Peat for instance. I and others told people a longtime ago that dude is Nebraska bound and that’s basically been confirmed today.
It bothers me when people post BS rumors as facts because someone who follows recruiting casually might take it as fact. I just want FSU fans to have the most accurate info possible in the very inaccurate science of recruiting.
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by NoleThruandThru on Jan 20, 2012 7:52 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Just jabbing you a bit. Lol (I actually take your lead fairly often)
I know you don’t just wrecklessly spout rumors and innuendo and only speak about (or infer) a significant occurance if it’s backed up by something credible. I’m the one who can be pessimistic at times. But I’ll always err on the side of caution at the very least. Recruiting is not something for the reactionary. Lol
by westcoastnolefan on Jan 20, 2012 11:55 PM EST up reply actions
No worries man :)
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by NoleThruandThru on Jan 20, 2012 11:56 PM EST up reply actions
I for one appreciate that
So nice to have a realistic idea of who we’ll get.
Control the Sunshine State & sooner or later you'll control the country.
actually
I heard Darby de-committed from ND in 10.2 seconds. Matt Elam is protesting the time though.
"Recruiting is like shaving. You better do it everyday or you will look like a bum"
Tell Elam to have a little faith
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by NoleThruandThru on Jan 20, 2012 11:56 PM EST up reply actions
I tried,
but in the middle of trying to tell him, GR5 raced in on a scooter and shouted obscenities at Elam. From what I hear, Jimbo’s still pretty pissed at G5 for it. POW
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by Noleviedo on Jan 21, 2012 2:41 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
What's your opinion of Northrup?
He seems to be lower in the rankings than most of our targets but then again most of our targets are elite level in the rankings so I know there are other good players out there yet not ranked accordingly.
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by cerebralfish on Jan 21, 2012 10:25 AM EST up reply actions
God player
When a guy like him is one of the lowest rated guys on your recruiting board. Then you have a fantasy recruiting board for the most part. There are 3/4* kids that are boorder and kids that just barely make the cut of a 3*. Hes at the higher end
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good*, Sure isnt god good
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Team Rankings
FSU is now 3rd on 247 and ESPN, 6th on Rivals and 10th on Scout… for those interested
I tried to watch the Scout TV show the other night... had to turn it off.
Scout should be ignored.
by PeachTreeNole on Jan 20, 2012 5:52 PM EST up reply actions
SMH at Scout
There are 9 classes better than ours?
If that’s true, then I have 3 belly buttons.
Formerly known as Randall W. Spetman.
time to get greedy
I remember so time ago of or murmuring about Joshua Holsey’s interest in FSU, is that a possibility or has that long since past?
wow, there's a name I haven't heard in a looong time
safe to say he won’t be a Nole :)
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by NoleThruandThru on Jan 20, 2012 3:08 PM EST up reply actions
Hmmm
Heard California girls were fantastic?
'Gentlemen, it is better to have died a small boy than to fumble this football.' John Heisman
They are
Especially those who reside in the Los Angeles/Orange county area
by westcoastnolefan on Jan 20, 2012 7:45 PM EST up reply actions
Weekend in LA > Weekend in AL
Simple
by jmnpb996 on Jan 20, 2012 3:16 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Not worried
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by NoleThruandThru on Jan 20, 2012 3:17 PM EST up reply actions
Yup. I have thoughts.
Wish I could go, because it sounds like fun.
Formerly known as Randall W. Spetman.
I see
Miami offered a Middle linebacker today…sign of things to come?
/flip Northrup
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Yeah, CSI mentioned it above
Writing is on the wall for them.
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by NoleThruandThru on Jan 20, 2012 3:30 PM EST up reply actions
Typically, do schools just give up and pursue other options? When a committed prospect seems to be leaving?
Or has he already given them a hint
They've gotten better about it
Shannon would have booked the plane ticket for him
Guy on a Buffalo
by SteadfastNole on Jan 20, 2012 3:36 PM EST up reply actions
From what I've heard, Northrup shouldn't even be considered a Miami commit anymore
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by NoleThruandThru on Jan 20, 2012 3:49 PM EST up reply actions
I want to know who you know.
Am I the meanest? Am I the prettiest? Am I the baddest mofo low down around this town? Well who am I? Who am I?
I can't hear you..
by STAquinasNole on Jan 20, 2012 5:25 PM EST up reply actions
This recruiting staff is like a Python . . .
Have only had one committment Glauser) up until today since the summer. The summer is when we feasted just like a python after eating a boar – it doesn’t eat for months afterwards, but when it feeds again it kills big. Louis’ committment lets me know that the python is getting hungry again. #stupidanalogy /screwitpostsitanyway.
by CJS55 on Jan 20, 2012 3:46 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
I like it!
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by NoleThruandThru on Jan 20, 2012 3:49 PM EST up reply actions
dude, that's good
You’re like the Steve Irwin of recruiting discussions.. Pythons, boars……good material man
"Recruiting is like shaving. You better do it everyday or you will look like a bum"
Python should be well fed by NSD
by NoleySmokes on Jan 22, 2012 12:26 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Wow. This is just getting crazy. A new thread daily?
Great recruiting discussions. Should be even crazier until May 1st.
"You can’t live a perfect day until you do something for someone who will never be able to repay you."
— John Wooden
"Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man."
Current Nebraska commit tweeted he is planning to spend the next 2 weeks with Peat up to NSD. And…………. GO!
by SimaNole on Jan 20, 2012 4:05 PM EST via Android app reply actions
That’s why it was intended as a joke… knock knock
by SimaNole on Jan 20, 2012 4:37 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Darby is on a plane to visit climpsun
According to tigerillustrated. Dabo better not pull any of his playing time magic…
NT&T
says he is a lock. so no worries…
by SimaNole on Jan 20, 2012 4:47 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
And a check book i$ Klemp$on$
by nole your enemy on Jan 20, 2012 5:01 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
Maybe so. But I have seen more incriminating pics with their recruits
by nole your enemy on Jan 20, 2012 5:46 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
Just means they’re signees are less intelligent about perception than many recruits are.
Truthfully, by and large most cheating in CFB isnt of the monetary kind
It's dumb to point fingers at other schools about money.
At the end of the day, FSU has a history of NCAA violations. Most other schools do too. I’m sure there was a point in time on TN when Clemson was spelled without any dollar signs.
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by STAquinasNole on Jan 20, 2012 5:56 PM EST up reply actions
What recruiting violations has FSU ever been accused of?
Shot a Gator in Jean Shorts just to watch him die.
by AMFKNole on Jan 20, 2012 7:03 PM EST via Android app up reply actions 1 recs
Are we not allowed to have fun anymore in this thread or at least take small shots at other programs?
by nole your enemy on Jan 20, 2012 6:07 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions 1 recs
I just think it's petty
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by STAquinasNole on Jan 20, 2012 11:15 PM EST up reply actions
Hopefully Darby is just taking a free trip to SC so he can be at Stephen Colbert’s Herman Cain rally
by ZaneFSU on Jan 20, 2012 5:02 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Pretty interesting development, it doesn't surprise me though
I’m sure Venables is on his mind and they’ll probably show him lots of footage on OU CBs who’ve been successful.
Makes me a bit nervous but I still love FSU’s chances.
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by NoleThruandThru on Jan 20, 2012 6:16 PM EST up reply actions
Thought I read in yesterday's recruiting thread that Darby was not going to Clemson
And that it was down to FSU, Auburn, and ND – thus meaning Clemson was eliminated.
What happened?
Rivals says
the in home payed off, and they have confirmed he is on the way, then again he was supposed to go a different weekend and never made it.
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I DO not like that....
Darby is going up there for a visit. Not at all.. Those Cleftsim goobers always seem to change these guys somehow.
by Buddy Reynolds on Jan 20, 2012 6:06 PM EST up reply actions
Has Darby had an OV at FSU?
I see it anywhere.
by Buddy Reynolds on Jan 20, 2012 6:37 PM EST up reply actions
yes the big 1/13 weekend
with all the other big names, spent a lot of time with the track Dept as well.
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agreed
what is he selling? Playing on a top five d (fsu) vs. a team that gave up 70 in the Orange Bowl? Don’t see how that entices players to come.
Dabo
sells them on the fact that when the get to CU they will have more money than they have ever had in their lives.
just doesnt tell them its a 1 time payment
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Sorry to ask here as this is OT, but what is the name of the Tomahawk Nation app?
I wanna DL it but don’t know what it’s called.
No “TomahawkNation” app. There is a sbnation app. TN is part of it.
by flfisher1423 on Jan 20, 2012 6:52 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
SB Natoin app
I can get to the Tomahawk Nation articles but how do you get to the Recruiting Discussion Threads?
There is a tab at the top that says “fan posts.” Recruiting threads are there.
by flfisher1423 on Jan 20, 2012 10:21 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
via Twitter...
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Five-star OL Andrus Peat is NOT making a visit to #FSU this weekend.
No one should be surprised. Dude is Nebraska bound
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by NoleThruandThru on Jan 20, 2012 7:11 PM EST up reply actions
Was thinking the same, especially with Winston in town
by nole your enemy on Jan 20, 2012 7:33 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
He thought he would commit to us over Nebraska.
Which it now seems like he’s a Nebraska lock at this point.
"Nothing like a tight one." -Heather Cox
Touché!
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by NoleThruandThru on Jan 20, 2012 11:58 PM EST up reply actions
Didn't Fisher just have an in-home with him?
I was hoping they sewed up the official visit but I guess not.
Wow...
Well this ruined a day that started so well
I was thinking the same thing
with Darby going to visit the hillbillies and then Peat…although Peat was a pipe dream at best….
by Buddy Reynolds on Jan 20, 2012 7:27 PM EST up reply actions
Going to college(growing up)
Usually doesn’t coincide with hang with memaw and papa…
by NoleySmokes on Jan 22, 2012 12:32 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Halfway expected this.
People didn’t realize what a longshot he was.
Formerly known as Randall W. Spetman.
are we recruiting any more OL at this point?
by FSUActuary on Jan 20, 2012 8:21 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
I'm not closing the door just yet.
I wanna hear why he cancelled last minute. Has to be some reason. He doesn’t seem like the type to do that. I predicted NEB, but not ending his recruitment like this. #LetTheDustSettle
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Probably pressure from Petrino or staff.
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by STAquinasNole on Jan 20, 2012 11:18 PM EST up reply actions
i think you mean Bo Pelini
"Recruiting is like shaving. You better do it everyday or you will look like a bum"
d'oh
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by STAquinasNole on Jan 20, 2012 11:26 PM EST up reply actions
On the upside!!
Winston and Northrup are here!!
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:) yeah !
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by NoleThruandThru on Jan 20, 2012 7:53 PM EST up reply actions
I'm going to stand on a soapbox quickly here
Just want y’all to know that while I love following recruiting and I do have some great sources with FSU and elsewhere in SEC country, i certainly dont do this or a living and I can just as easily be wrong in my predictions. I think I can speak for the recruiting team here when I say that we promise to give y’all the best info we have when we get it. We try our hardest to keep you informed and we love that so many of you contribute knowledge as well.
I can also tell y’all that if I am wrong in any predictions (happens every year I’ve followed recruiting), I will always own up to it :)
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by NoleThruandThru on Jan 20, 2012 8:03 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
This is just a disclaimer for everyone, nothing more
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by NoleThruandThru on Jan 20, 2012 8:05 PM EST up reply actions
I like how you disclaimered your disclaimer
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by SteadfastNole on Jan 20, 2012 8:53 PM EST up reply actions
See what I did derrrr??
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by NoleThruandThru on Jan 20, 2012 9:13 PM EST up reply actions
Never know :)
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by NoleThruandThru on Jan 20, 2012 9:13 PM EST up reply actions
I'm very unhappy that you are wrong sometimes.
You should be replaced immediately with someone who is always right. That’s a no brainer.
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by cerebralfish on Jan 21, 2012 10:36 AM EST up reply actions
I wish I got paid :)
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by NoleThruandThru on Jan 21, 2012 3:53 PM EST up reply actions
Bud alluded that FSU might flip as many as three other guys by the time its all said and done. I’m guessing that the three are Northrup, Collin Blake, and Brian Poole (?)….. Agree/Disagree?
Disagree.
Assuming Darby would count as a committed player.
by flfisher1423 on Jan 20, 2012 10:27 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Darby is not committed to ND anymore and apparently they’re really not in it. Auburn and FSU with Clemson trying to get in it.
There are others.
Dude was a hot commodity as soon as he decommitted.
Formerly known as Randall W. Spetman.
Poole is a long shot but his recruitment intrigues me a lot
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by NoleThruandThru on Jan 20, 2012 11:59 PM EST up reply actions
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by freshcollegeboy on Jan 20, 2012 10:47 PM EST up reply actions
He peed twice during the meal
And I THINK he may have dropped his napkin. I need to check my sources.
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Oh crap...
And I THINK he may have dropped his napkin.
he has a proneness to fumble.
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Welcome and keep postin!!
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by NoleThruandThru on Jan 20, 2012 11:59 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, it sure is
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Wow that is a lot
You must be expecting some attrition and some early exits to the NFL, so we need to win in 2012!
When I posted that FSU
will take 30+ like a week ago – you scoffed….what gives?
by FSUNOLES90210 on Jan 21, 2012 9:01 AM EST up reply actions
For 2013
QB
6 Skill guys (RB/WR/TE)
4 HS OL
5 DL
3 LB
4 DB
That’s a minimum of 23. But I think they could go higher at some spots
OL recruiting
Bud your analysis of what we need appears to fit in with what we are doing, except for the OL, what we are doing there makes no sense to me. Can you explain?
Ol
IMO, we should recruit a year earlier than we need them, like to have added three this year, all could be redshirted and had some playing time before we have to have them
The guys recruited in 2013 won’t be needed if my math is correct. I’d anticipate three of the four to redshirt.
by Bud Elliott on Jan 21, 2012 10:02 AM EST up reply actions
OL
Are you referring to the fact that the 2010 OL class consisted of Dan Foose and nothing else and now the 2012 class appears to be 2 JUCOs and 0 HS?
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by FSUNOLES90210 on Jan 21, 2012 10:32 AM EST up reply actions
If we keep the 2 we have for 2012, I don't see a need for one in 2013.
Unless there’s attrition.
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Jimbo wants to take one every year. If Clint gets beat out by Coker, Winston or Maguire, he will not be on the roster as a scholarship player.
Plus, Winston cold always go pro in baseball after two years if things don’t work out.
The only way I can see not taking one is if Clint is way out in front of everyone else going into 2013.
Thanks for the info.
What do you think happens with Secord?
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Why would Clint not be on the roste in 2013 if he got beat out by 1 guy?
He would still be the back up in 2013 if that is the case. I would imagine it would take more then just one of those guys eating Clint out for him to not be on the roster in 2013
Don't see them getting rid of the guy at #2 just to keep from carrying 5.
Not a huge difference between 4 and 5 and the #2 guy will almost certainly be needed judging by resent history
Yes. If they fell equally as comfortable with either of those guys
Then I could see it. And did you just go on record as calling Coker the starter in 2012? that is what you are implying here right/
Just wondering if that was what you thought.
I’m sure you may have said that before but I have never seen your thoughts on who would start in 2013. That is why I asked
You meant 2013.
No way he beats out EJ.
"If you want to see me, come watch me on Fridays. I play in pads."
-(Future FSU Star) Mario Pender
But how can they possibly be as comfortable with guys
who are likely redshirt Freshmen as they would be with a RS JR with starting experience?
FSU isn’t going to be winning anything big in 2013 anyways, so unless the difference is enormous, I think they’ll use the spot elsewehre.
Not to drag this on too long
But I Imagine we go into 2013 believing we can win the ACC.
FSU won’t be the favorite to win the ACC in 2013, IMO. I’d pick CU in 2013. Loaded and lose very little off the 2012 squad.
You're probably right about Clemson being the favorite
But still a realistic goal for 2013 for FSU to set
If I had to pick, I’d say this
FSU wins it in 2012 and 2014. That would be three division titles and two conf titles in FSU’s first five years
I know you know this, but I'd just say it's way early to speculate either way.
FSU will be more talented than CU, we’ll just lose a lot of experience from ’12. But the guys replacing them will be just as talented and will see a lot of time this year.
And because the others can see the receivers :)
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Again if the other have passed him
Then I can see this. If He just get’s passed by 1 of them, It would not make much sense. Unless that is a sneaky way of trying to get rid of Rick Trickett. FI so I am all for it
How many little QB's have lasting success at major D1 level?
It’s not that he can’t, but I can see why he would have to blow them away.
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As i said above
If Coker wins the starting job in 2013 then how comfortable can the coaching staff be with 2 RS frosh then they would be with an RS Junior with starting experience. I don’t think he has to blow them away. Just beat them out.
Hard to imagine that Clint would be affected by the same roster churning policy considering
His dad is the Associate Head Coach. He isn’t going to be shown the door, unless RT isn’t here by the time CT is a junior.
Also consider he may want to go into the family business
He could stick around and help out the young guys while he learns about coaching from Jimbo and pops. Then one day he could be part of the noles staff. Grad Assistant QB coach etc. Anyway, I see him on the team in 2013 is some fashion.
Well, then it's a good thing we're already behind then
Ugh
Shot a Gator in Jean Shorts just to watch him die.
by AMFKNole on Jan 21, 2012 10:46 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
Class is more than Tunsil. Can have success with or without him.
by Bud Elliott on Jan 21, 2012 10:55 AM EST up reply actions
It seems crazy to me.
We stockpile DL’s like there’s no #‘s limitations while dancing on the razors edge with our OL. If we have 2-3 injuries in 2012, we’re screwed again!
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-(Future FSU Star) Mario Pender
re: injuries
Don’t think any team is set up not to have a huge dropoff if more than half of oline starters go down.
I just have a hard time remembering when injuries played no factor on the OL.
Did I see previously that you played OL?
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Yes. And I think part of the blame for this year’s OLine issues do go on Trickett. A good part. Not all, but he’ll need to produce like he did in 09 and 10 if he wants to stay around. In my eyes at least.
I've been trying to figure it out.
Is JF not giving him enough numbers to address depth or is Trickett a bad recruiter.
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I think he can be too picky. That’s for sure.
Also think the need to space some of these guys out is definitely a real thing.
I see spacing as a huge issue.
Hate this graduating the entire OL at the same time garbage.
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I say 5 or 6
Just looking at what we are taking this year (Glauser) and the issues we had in the past (injuries, attrition, transfers) and I think Jimbo will make sure he stock piles a little better so that another 2011 season on the OL doesn’t happen. With that being said, I ams uper excited about this lines potential in 2012 and especially 2013. Think it could be a top unit in the country by 2013.
by SarasotaSeminole on Jan 21, 2012 2:37 PM EST up reply actions
What have you heard about Mitchell / Newberry switching?
Did RT just get two new elite athletes to work with?
OMGosh, it's over! He's gone. I can't believe he wants to play for LSU. Fine, let him go. His loss.
(I’m posting this in the hope that it will prevent the meltdowners from posting it).
Yea. I saw he was hanging out with someone, And read a tweet about it
Who is this chick. I believe this has to do with a specific female. And supposedly he is having a good time. Although I am sure he has a good time on all his visits. And knowing MEJ he will have fun, but I think he would need a visit that absolutely blew him away(no oun intended) and us simply collapse. He has spent tons of time actually in film seeing how he will be used and LSU doesnt have the time to get all that. If he falls for LSU after 1 weekend 10 days before NSD after his most recent visit and again not decommiting which he would do out of respect. Then I am as confident as I could be. Which still makes me nervous. But feel good about it.
back on point. Whos this chick?
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Dalvon Stuckey
Unconquerednole1022 in his year end piece had some unflattering things to say about Stuckey with, perhaps, the most resonating being that he won’t qualify. I wouldn’t be upset if we lost this recruit, but am curious about the differing opinions (from a poster who’s a “neighbor” to him and from our coaches). I actually put him in a category with Northrup re not worried if we don’t get him. Does it look like he’ll get in and/or has this already been addressed in a previous thread?
That’s how I feel. He has some talent. Does he have the desire? Do I believe him when he says he has the grades?
by Bud Elliott on Jan 21, 2012 10:27 AM EST up reply actions
Stuckey's coach said he is on track. Coach speak trying to help his player? Probably.
Hope the kid makes it. He could be the diamond in the rough
GO NOLES!!! SCALP EM!
If we get Goldman I hope we "lose" Stuckey
Goldman, Shanks and a little MEJ inside would be great. 2013 Has some good DL prospects (better than this year if FL at least). Bain is onboard and I like Deadrin Senat.
on passing downs with jernigan
and fowler and casher on the ends. IMO a crazy pass rush.
That just sounds insane and unfair
I definitley agree MEJ is strictly SDE, but I’m sure you will see him move inside to the 5 or 3 tech on obvious passing downs with the Jernigan, Jenkins, Casher/Fowler
by SarasotaSeminole on Jan 21, 2012 2:39 PM EST up reply actions
Me, too.
Same with Northrup (lose him, I mean. I know I’m the only one around here who thinks that about Northrup.) Both are below our average player rating and apparent recruited skill level these days, from what I can see.
Curious as to why you think that
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by NoleThruandThru on Jan 21, 2012 3:55 PM EST up reply actions
I admit I'm not a good judge of talent on film.
Half of what’s said about recruits to me is so dependent upon who they’re playing and how good the talent on their team is, I just don’t always see what everyone else claims to see. Going off of the ratings for Northrup and Stuckey across the four services, their rating numbers and stars are below the average for the rest of our class (Northrup: ESPN 79 which would only have three recruits below him on our board [including Ks], 247 unranked nationally, Rivals 5.8, [big time linebackers supposedly in next year’s recruiting cycle]; Stuckey: ESPN 79, 247 Ranked 222 with 10 or 11 of our recruits ranked equally or above and only 3 or 4 below [kickers included], Rivals 5.7 with only 3 of our recruits below him [K included], DLine arguably being our strongest area for the future following NSD). Just seems to me that these guys may not deserve the scholarships. Not seeing why Northrup is taking up so much time on these boards, anyway. I don’t want him if we are trending towards the kind of talent that Bud’s post on quality recruiting suggests.
Northrup
Bub with northrup going on an ov to ohio st. the 27th do you still feel we can get him to flip this weekend?
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by FSuni on Jan 21, 2012 3:03 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Goldman
Bud what do you think the chances Goldman redshirts? Erving could become a beast by next year and the fact that we have NLS and D. mitchell.
Excellent question. Probably depends on Jacobbi. When he went down last year he was playing great.
J. McDaniel (DT)
E. Dawkins* (DT)
M. McCray* (DT)
A. McCloud* (DT)
D. McAllister* (DT)
C. Erving* (DT)
T. Jernigan (DT)
D. Cummings* (DT)
N. Lawrence (DT)*
D. Mitchell (DT)*
That’s 10 defensive tackles. Ten. How many will be on the roster come fall and still at DT? I’ll say 7-8.
by Bud Elliott on Jan 21, 2012 11:15 AM EST up reply actions
I see McCray, Cummings, and McCallister being passed, but with all the competition that will bring out the best efforts so we will see….anxious to see what Mitchell and Lawrence do with their first spring under their belts
Very happy with the DL
We are loaded, a few injuries will not kill us (mccray, esp) and we are recruiting to keep this unit loaded into the future.
Is there ever a time that Moses ISN'T injured?
Honestly, I was wondering whether he’d even be around next year.
by seminoleballer on Jan 21, 2012 2:39 PM EST up reply actions
DTs
I dont think Jacobbi’s ankle will take it. He dislocated his ankle, that is not going to recover for him to play D1 football. It stretches everything out. If it was a lateral dislocation his only 2 supporting ligaments are done (ATFL, CFL) – I dont know his specific injury but don’t hold your breath. I think McCray’s knee is in similiar condition-tendon micro-tears and capsule stretched-making him too unstable to play D1 ball. I sell Sports Medicine orthopedic implants so have some pretty good experience with these injuries.
makes me sick for these two guys, they gave their all.
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by LaxNole on Jan 21, 2012 12:26 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Jacobbi is working his ass off in rehab
But you’re right, it doesn’t look good.
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I appreciate the specific info
On the injuries.
I too hope for the best but . . Damn!
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I sustained a total dislocation of my left ankle.
I was done after that. 3 years later I still cant run and I get unbelieveabley stiff and sore. When I asked the doctor if it would ever be the same, his reply was a simple no. He also said that everyday, for the rest of my life I would feel the effects of the dislocation
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McCray has gotta be done
Possibly Cummings too if he gets passed by NLS and Mitchell. McCallister is interesting in that he actually played a good amount after Jacobbi went down but otherwise he’s no higher than 4th at any position (DT or NG). Would be weird to Redshirt the #1 DT in America but at that position FSU has more depth than anywhere else.
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by AMFKNole on Jan 21, 2012 12:30 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
It's possible to come back after a dislocation.
I would say it would be smarter to sit out a year though. I dislocated mine in college and actually came back the very next year. In hindsight it wasn’t really smart to come back that soon (should have taken a medical). I run and train on my ankle all the time now with no problems at all. It may bother me a little every now and then, but it’s not really an issue. The only thing is my calf doesn’t look the same and it never will. It doesn’t help that I already had bird legs anyway!
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total dislocation or lateral???
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I think Cummings is a prime transfer candidate
Isn’t he the one teammates have called soft?
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by NoleThruandThru on Jan 21, 2012 3:56 PM EST up reply actions
McCallister
He played some pretty good ball when he did get a chance. I like McCray but i think he should give it up. Hopefully i will be able to make to tally this yr for my 1st game it’s cold up here in sryacuse, N.Y. Also this site is hands down the best!
Silent Commit
Long time reader, but first post.
I have been following recruiting for many years but do not understand the reasoning for a silent comit. Is it to keep other targets from knowing how many we are taking at their position? Could someone help me out here? Thanks.
If you believe in silent commits…
A) To create “headlines” & media momentum
2) To not alert other programs & allow them to do the math on how many scholarships your program has left – To figure out where they will allocate resources or need to try to “flip”
D) To be able to sign and place quietly at JCs
Plaid) Some are conditional offers – If so and so doesn’t make it you’re in
Silent
Thanks.
Would you not also be making it easier for a recruit to silently decommit since there would not be any backlash?
Personally....
I think "silent " commits are an internet phenomenon. If a kid commits on a trip, it would get out into the news cycles. It seems like silent commits are just kids who have given a strong indication of leaning toward one program but haven’t formally committed (some seem to think Northrup is a “silent”).
I think conditional (as FSU pointed out)l/“not commitable” offers are real (especially at summer camps) but silent commits I think are sketchy reports at best.
Kenny Shaw was a legit silent commit.
I remember him saying how happy and relieved he was to go public with it after the Under Armour game because he was getting tired of holding it in.
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Sometimes coaches ask players to be silents i believe
then ask them to verbal in “times of need”
Ex. Avis and Arrington issues…..then boom new headline…a committ or two..
JMHO
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Part of that goes to slow playing a kid and not giving an hard offer… You plan for attrition of sorts every year. IMO 2-3. I thought we’d be higher this year w/ a incoming 23 new players (yes high) because of that. A bit still depends on APR as you roster flip. EEing is big with some of these guys because it helps them get done sooner and you can fudge with when you count them as coming in too.
2013 instate should be very good, but Bud & Michael could speak better about that than I.
I agree on that also...
next year we are gonna load up. 27-32 kids i bet…2013 is loaded. I think we will get like 40% of commits from OOS also even with FL being star studded.
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Great outline FSU.
I suggest one more subsection.
{ } To allow a commit who is going out of state, example from AL or LA, to FL, to commit without the commit becoming the object of vitriolic comments and pressure during his senior year until he announces on NSD or shortly before.
Questions about Northrup
What do you guys think of him? Would he ever crack the lineup at FSU or is he more of a depth chart filler with potential to play if he gets his work ethic up. Looks like he needs to develope his body and game, especially shedding blocks and reacting faster and moving to the ball rather than it coming to him.
I think many people were surprised with him this year.
He had over 160 tackles in something like 12 games. He has grown tremendously as a player since his junior year, and is the best linebacker in Florida.
Short answer: not a chart filler.
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by freshcollegeboy on Jan 21, 2012 2:26 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Yep
Absolutely blew up his senior year. He has a lot of physical ability and a lot of room for improvement (pretty high ceiling). I think he needs two years before he can potentially win a starting spot but he definitely is capable.
by SarasotaSeminole on Jan 21, 2012 2:41 PM EST up reply actions
I wish we took Perryman last here.
I though he was very impressive at UM for being a true freshman
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I'm very skeptical.
I know we like to ride da U for it’s recent recruiting woes, but some kids want to be there.
I remember the pics that came out of him and Arrington on their visit. Wish we had got the other.
How much does the new baseball CBA
affect Winston’s decision?
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I heard on ESPNU recruiting nation that it will about cut in half the signing bonuses in the first round so teams can’t just draft Winston in the 3rd round and give him a first round bonus so he doesn’t go play football
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Helps FSU a ton
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by freshcollegeboy on Jan 21, 2012 2:27 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Trying to think of the phrasing here…
You can be concerned with the offensive line this fall and not be concerned with the 2012 class of oline recruiting.
Why? No HS OL brought in in 2012 would be an impact guy in 2012.
But
should we be concerned about the 2012 OL class 2-3 years down the road when none of them are left b/c they are jucos? Wont it hurt depth?
Plus we Redshirted some and let some play.
Almost like recruiting some last year and some this year.
by tuscaloosa-nole on Jan 23, 2012 9:34 AM EST up reply actions
So is Fowler in gainsville this weekend? Probably will be the 200th visit for him there.
I wonder if he flips at the last second…Out of all the recruits in this class, he is the one i can see bolting to UF at the last second. Hope he sticks with us though.
Yeah. If I was FSU I’d take Williams right now and if Fowler wanted to go elsewhere I’d not sweat that at all.
by Bud Elliott on Jan 21, 2012 2:35 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Personally I think Fowler is a stud
But Williams seems to ahve the same ability without the flair for the dramatic so to speak. Fowler excites me though due to his potential
by SarasotaSeminole on Jan 21, 2012 2:43 PM EST up reply actions
Jimmy you know my opinion on this.
I want fowler, yes. But Williams is a must take if he wants in.
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Yeah I know you love Fowler
It’s like 1A & 1B. Don’t know which is better
by SarasotaSeminole on Jan 21, 2012 5:14 PM EST up reply actions
With each day that passes, I get the feeling that
Fowler has played his hand much too long. FSU may call his bluff with Leonard and tell him to accept being in the same class as 3 other DE’s or move along.
Injuries happen and kids transfer so one cannot automatically assume that X amount is too many.
by FSUActuary on Jan 21, 2012 3:41 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
I had the feeling all year that Fowler ends up in Gainesville, but with Williams in play it doesn’t really matter any more.
I like Williams better by a significant margin.
by Bud Elliott on Jan 21, 2012 2:45 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
better player, better attitude
"Recruiting is like shaving. You better do it everyday or you will look like a bum"
Are there any instances of a coach telling a recruit to wait until another recruit faxes in his LOI as to not “scare” off another recruit. Like Muschamp telling Howard to wait till Poole faxes in or Jimbo telling Williams to wait until Fowler faxes in his?
Awesome. So even if you’re not too high on Fowler….in theory, you still tell Williams to hold off right?
My prediction a few threads back was that Williams is an FSU silent
I believe he goes verbal on NSD after fowler is a done deal..
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Apparently
a lot of opinions were formed during UA practices. I read a report where Fowler looked noticably more explosive off the line in drills than did Casher (No way was Casher in true game shape and he’s still moves better than Fowler laterally and is more agile overall IMO). Seems like you saw some things during practices that have you now convinced LW is better. Granted they are difference type of players to me (Fowler DE/OLB type while LW is SDE/3 Tech type).
by westcoastnolefan on Jan 21, 2012 3:04 PM EST up reply actions
WHY? I hit reply for Bud, asking why he likes LW more than Fowler. Just curious.
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I think LW and Fowler are different types of players
Fowler being more a DE/OLB type while Williams is more of SDE/3 tech hybrid. Lotsof opinions were formed during UA practices. They mentioned during drills that Fowler get off the ball much better than did Casher (Casher couldn’t have been close to in game shape though). So was this opinion formed after viewing both Fowler and LW is practice or just re-enforced?
by westcoastnolefan on Jan 21, 2012 3:11 PM EST up reply actions
Somebody Rec this please!!!!
"Recruiting is like shaving. You better do it everyday or you will look like a bum"
Agree completely
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by NoleThruandThru on Jan 21, 2012 3:57 PM EST up reply actions
damn. I know he's been there a lot, but less than two weeks before NSD?
Come on, man! If it’s just a flirtation, now is the time to end it. If it’s more than flirtation, tell Jimbo and let us plan accordingly.
UF took a 3 star DE and we’re arguing over which of our 4 and 5 star DEs we would rather have. Its a good day to be a Seminole
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by SteadfastNole on Jan 21, 2012 10:04 PM EST up reply actions 5 recs
UF getting a commit from Brian Cox Jr today .
I strongly believe this helps us keep Fowler (even if we add L Williams)
Cox and Fowler projected to play the same position IMO.
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Ah ha,
BCJ committing early sounds like a little collaboration between Jimbo and his best buddy Will??? I remember Coley’s tweet “where there’s a Will, there’s a way” could apply here unless you still think he was referring to Will Latu; which I do not.
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Supposedly Bullard is a risk to qualify.
The Gates always seem to get kids like him in though.
by nolesblogger on Jan 21, 2012 7:16 PM EST up reply actions
Bud...
Bryan Cox, a 3* commits to FU, making their 3rd DE committ. What would you say to someone making an arguement that that all bodes well for FSU getting all 4 of our DEs signed this cycle?
B) Would you believe an arguement that the gates think their chances for LW and Fowler arn’t looking so good and took Cox?
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Ok everyone, I've been quiet long enough about this and I'm finally going to say it
I sincerely hope our coaches take a hard stance with Fowler and tell him to cut the crap or they cut him loose. I’ve alluded to this several times but I hope coaches take Williams and tell Fowler to go to UF if he wants so we can let them deal with the BS. I firmly believe that if FSU takes 4 DEs, one will transfer and it’ll be Fowler who does. Fowler is doing more than seeking attention- he’s playing games with our staff that this team doesn’t need.
From where I sit, Williams deserves to be in this class more than Fowler. I understand fowler is a 5 star, but he’s only a 5 star when he decides to okay to his potential and I’m not convinced he will do that. Williams has a chip on his shoulder that gives me zero doubt that he will bust his butt every day to get better. That’s the kind of kid I want on this team.
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by NoleThruandThru on Jan 21, 2012 4:06 PM EST reply actions 3 recs
I cant remember the last time
I saw you talk about a recruit that way. Damn Fowler, you betta check yoself.
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I often don't- the last time I did was Ahmad Paige in 2007
I just don’t want another Fred Rouse on this team. I hope I am 100% wrong and I will admit it right away if I am, but I am not impressed with Dantes attitude or motivation or games. Coaches need to make sure he knows it’s a privilege and not a right to play on this team.
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by NoleThruandThru on Jan 21, 2012 4:16 PM EST up reply actions
Scratch that- I've been tough on DJJ too
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by NoleThruandThru on Jan 21, 2012 4:17 PM EST up reply actions
Well said NT&T...
follow up question since you mentioned Rouse; what ever happened with him after he transfered?
nevermind..
saw the UTEP, Concordia, UFL progression….
I just hope he isn't in jail right now
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by NoleThruandThru on Jan 21, 2012 8:20 PM EST up reply actions
Nobody has heard Fred Rouse fart since 2006.
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My roommate had a class with him
Saw him on the first day, said he was funny but he smelled like dried turds, never saw him in class again.
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by NoleThruandThru on Jan 21, 2012 8:24 PM EST up reply actions
Think he is as good as Fowler is at moment
Meaning we are getting one or the other, And if not one its prob Fowler
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Shouldn’t he have a pretty good idea of what each school has to offer by now though?
For some reason I thought he was becoming more solid to FSU, but I think maybe I misread the situation.
Remember schools are constantly recruiting, constant giving information and giving a sales pitch. And ultimately its at least two year commitment of a life changing course where ever you go with on top of it being a teenager making the choice – Its why you see kids “flip” often.
Yeah, the stakes are high, no doubt, and you want to get it right.
But I’m not sure I’m convinced that Fowler is really in information gathering mode at this point.
Are you saying
best chance to play as a true freshman or best chance to play period?
All ya gotta do is get 'em.
UF's D-line is not shabby...
Tank, Jenkins, and Werner will/may be gone after this year. Thats a ton of snaps to spilt up.
Casher and Fowler could play some stand up as well.
Fowler’s lateral speed is great.
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Did something happen other than his visit this weekend?
Or is this stemming from his comments about taking another DE?
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Think he may be one of FSUs 4 first rounders next year lol
Werner, Jenkins, Rhodes, Joyner, Hell Christian green may be up there
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As many times as he has been to UF by now, I have to think he knows where he'd stand at both places
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by NoleThruandThru on Jan 21, 2012 5:30 PM EST up reply actions
Through twitter?
'Gentlemen, it is better to have died a small boy than to fumble this football.' John Heisman
Well said
Day by day I’m beginning to endorse this line of thinking. I think Fowler’s pass rush potentionial exceeds that of MEJ and Casher (Casher is a better all around player though) but I’ve worried about Dante’s “football character” and his capacity to put forth maximum effort in practice as well as games. Williams is totally different type of player than Fowler but if DF has issues with another kid being recruited at his position (And he does, trust me) then maybe just maybe LW doe indeed deserve a spot in the class over him. Like someone said, “there’s a public side of this and a private side of this. We’ll see which is true” in regards to Fowler. But all in all I think things will eventually sort themselves out and we’ll end up with a quality class. Fowler or not
by westcoastnolefan on Jan 21, 2012 7:36 PM EST up reply actions
It seems like Williams
Will be more willing and able to take a needed redshirt. It is very hard to redshirt a five star player, and Williams seems like he would have much more to gain from it because of his attitude.
I think we land Darby and Blake
Watch out for howard battle to heat up also (never can count our coaches out). That being said I still think Howard is pretty strong lean to UF.
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From everything I've heard, sounds like FSU is conceding Howard
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by NoleThruandThru on Jan 21, 2012 6:07 PM EST up reply actions
Should we be excited?
He’s a 3 star by most services, not ranked in on ESPN,24/7, rivals. Is he vastly under rated or a serious plan B.
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He has only played HS ball (Transitioned over from basketball)
for two years (Played football before that though). He’s considered to be the second best DB in the state of Texas by some (After UT commit Kendall Sanders who is a monster). Not too many 6-2 6-3 kids like him who can bend, transition, turn and run downfield with WR’s like he can (Sounds like another guy we know). He’s a kid with a lot of upside. Prefer him over Leggett
by westcoastnolefan on Jan 21, 2012 7:25 PM EST up reply actions
Just watch the film
Kid is a tremendous athlete. Any time you have a prospect with that size/athleticism it’s worth a take imo
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You have to imagine Tally will be rocking
The recruits will be feeling that tonight
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by newdynastynole on Jan 21, 2012 7:00 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
It's not sweeter
beating them at home for their first home loss in 45 games?
But to do it in front of our FB recruits for the 2nd week in a row ...
Greater potential impact for recruiting (assuming there would be any impact – of course)
I'd like to personally thank the premier college basketball programs in the state of North Carolina for ensuring that FSU's 2 biggest wins this season coincide with FSU's 2 biggest recruiting weekends.
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by DRusso97 on Jan 21, 2012 7:00 PM EST reply actions 4 recs
Alright guys, we are all excited, but...
Let’s keep this thread “football” recruiting related please :)
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I see former FSU DT commit and current JUCO Damien Jacobs to FU, signed LOI.
FU also picked up ’13 RB Adam Lane.
Yeah they got Lane before Taylor!
Probably will get both. I want Green
I know a lot of people do not like D Henry (I personally like he as an ATH a lot)
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I was meaning at RB mostly, but...
I’ve heard some say they don’t want him for various reasons….not sure why.
I like him as an ATH first and foremost, but I would still take him as a RB
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Not a big fan of Henry right now
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by NoleThruandThru on Jan 21, 2012 8:23 PM EST up reply actions
whys that?
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He lacks toughness. Not a good trait considering he will have to move to another position, probably on defense.
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hm, didnt realize that
- moving to another position: to obad for him. really liked him last year @ RB
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i rather have G.Bryant any day of the week...watched him in Orlando this kid is the real deal plus if we are trying to be like a SEC team we need a type of back that is similar to T.richardson with the same power and strength....
plus it would be a shame to let a talent of that sort go, not to mention he is still growing….
by FearThaSpearWeAreFSU on Jan 21, 2012 11:31 PM EST up reply actions
DR summed it up well
He is not a RB. Period. But he seems set on playing it. Now if he agreed to play on defense I’d love to see FSU land him, but for now we already have a big back in JWJ, no need for another one who is less skilled at the position than JWJ is.
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by NoleThruandThru on Jan 21, 2012 11:15 PM EST up reply actions
if you were a backer
how would you NOT want to play behind FSU’s DL? Easy job….
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by TLHWG on Jan 21, 2012 8:25 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
No way G5 and Telvin let that fly around them...
Nor the other recruits, esp the “bama boys”
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should we be happy he decommited he’s on his over to tcu i thought.
I work at TCU
Folks here aren’t too optimistic. Patterson is currently doing everything he can to keep Daje Johnson away from Texas.
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by NoleThruandThru on Jan 21, 2012 8:22 PM EST up reply actions
Tcu has a ton to offer, I will say that
They could give him a lot to think about and he’d play sooner at TCU. Their CBs aren’t good.
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by NoleThruandThru on Jan 21, 2012 8:27 PM EST up reply actions
New info on Fowler?
I’ve been reading this thread about Folwer not being in this class. Is there something new going on? New info besides his longtime flirtation with UF? I’m a little confused.
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Most believe that its Fowler or Williams
that Fowler wont stick around if Williams commits. And that wouldn’t necessarily be a bad trade.
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With the way this thread was going, I thought I had missed something specific regarding Fowler and UF. I personally like Fowler a little better than Williams, but I’m praying for both! I would rather land Fowler and have Williams end up at Auburn than us land Williams and have Fowler in Gainesville.
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by TridentineNole on Jan 21, 2012 8:58 PM EST up reply actions
General consensus
of some people tired of the flirtation with UF, tired of his headlines. Love to have him, but I’d take Leonard in a heartbeat too.
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I'm not going to spill everything I know about him behind the scenes
But I wouldn’t be unhappy in the least to pick up Williams and see Fowler leave.
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by NoleThruandThru on Jan 21, 2012 9:12 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
If the coaches did decide that's the path they wanted to take, how sure are they that Williams would want in?
I don’t mind losing Fowler if we pick up a player of similar caliber. Losing Fowler and not landing Williams…eeek.
I should clarify
I’m not advocating for FSU to drop Fowler. I’m saying I hope our coaches tell him to cut the crap.
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by NoleThruandThru on Jan 21, 2012 10:04 PM EST up reply actions
What are your thoughts on
Williams possibly not being heard from until Fowler’s fax is in?
by westcoastnolefan on Jan 22, 2012 12:42 AM EST up reply actions
How about some of what you know
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by AMFKNole on Jan 22, 2012 2:28 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
REC THIS!!
“I’m not going to spill everything I know about him behind the scenes But I wouldn’t be unhappy in the least to pick up Williams and see Fowler leave.”
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In other news
Jameis Winston with a picture of him in a number 5 fsu jersey with Charlie Wards jersey in the background
https://twitter.com/#!/UnleashthaBeast/status/160908399335325696/photo/1
by Johnathan Blackburn on Jan 21, 2012 10:17 PM EST reply actions
As long as his name isn’t Orson, it should be ok.
Guy on a Buffalo
by SteadfastNole on Jan 21, 2012 11:04 PM EST up reply actions
What number is he rocking? 90?
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by NoleThruandThru on Jan 21, 2012 11:16 PM EST up reply actions
We cant get the outlet covered? Lol
by ttubasketball on Jan 21, 2012 11:29 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
You should have seen my jerseys after I got them tailored, LOL
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How is this not green?????
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by NoleThruandThru on Jan 21, 2012 11:12 PM EST up reply actions
Help me out here...
Isn’t there some rule against recruits being in jerseys?
by NoleadgeIsPower on Jan 22, 2012 12:23 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
Not at all
Very common on an OV
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by NoleThruandThru on Jan 22, 2012 12:37 AM EST up reply actions
very common =/= not a rule against it
I thought I had heard the same thing…though, clearly not a recruiting rule expert
You're thinking of the "simulating a game day experience".
I believe if they were to go on the field in jerseys that it would be against the rules. In the locker room is fine though.
I think the deal is that the jersey can not have the player's name on the back.
Then it would be a violation.
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Jameis
Love that picture of him in front of Charlie’s old locker, he will be cut from the same cloth and rockin that new Jersey. #17 is retired isn’t it?
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I don't think anyone has worn 17 in a while... did anyone wear it in the 2000s?
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by NoleThruandThru on Jan 21, 2012 11:13 PM EST up reply actions
Dodged a bullet with that one ...
He was a freak … in both senses of the word.
MEJ will be wearing it, won't he?
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I thought
MEJ was gonna wear #15? And Fowler is gonna wear………………….never mind
by westcoastnolefan on Jan 21, 2012 11:24 PM EST up reply actions
3.14159265?? #HeLovesPi
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by DRusso97 on Jan 21, 2012 11:28 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
DRusso with the smart joke!
#Weird
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by freshcollegeboy on Jan 21, 2012 11:52 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah I bet
He’s a real smart@$$
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by freshcollegeboy on Jan 22, 2012 12:22 AM EST up reply actions
Shhhhhhhhhhhhh..........
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He needs # 17
That would be sick to see 17 out there making people miss and torching defenses. Winston might be the man to do it!
Correct it's retired, he can't wear it without Charlie's OK.
We used to retire numbers, but now we only retire the jerseys.
The numbers we retired before the change was made [#‘s 2 (Sanders), 17 (Ward), 25 (Biletnikoff), 34 (Sellers), and 50 (Simmons)] can’t be worn without permission from the former player, but those jersey’s retired [#’s 16 (Weinke), 28 (Dunn), and 55 (Brooks)] can be worn without the former players approval if the coaches agree.
That said, I don’t think Charlie would not allow Winston to wear #17.
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I'm not so sure this Jimbo fella is the right man for the job.
Oh yeah I forgot, I'm pretty sure T-Buc (27) got his jersey retired also.
>------::----::------->Spearing 'em and Scalping 'em like it's 1999
I'm not so sure this Jimbo fella is the right man for the job.
Damn, you're right. I confused his FSU number with his Tampa Bay number.
>------::----::------->Spearing 'em and Scalping 'em like it's 1999
I'm not so sure this Jimbo fella is the right man for the job.
Marvin Jones wore 55 at FSU
and how can that jersey not be retired!
More exciting
NSD or FSU/Miami game day? NSD or FSU in a non-BCS bowl game? NSD or FSU’s spring game?
It was close, but I was so pissed about the refs that I actually liked the UF game better.
The near shut out was cool. Thanks a lot, Jermaine.
It was the first time
that I was pissed AFTER beating Miami.
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by rspknole1 on Jan 22, 2012 9:20 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
Anything on Northrup?
How was his visit? Do we think he committed? Silently maybe? And what JHC? I know his UGA bound but his tweets were interesting. I need my Sunday fix! :)
by SarasotaSeminole on Jan 22, 2012 10:00 AM EST via mobile reply actions
I read on Twitter
that his grandfather sent a text that said it is now a tree team battle between FSU, UF, and UGA
I read that he was being hosted by Telvin Smith…I thought I’ve read here he didn’t get along with Telvin and G5. What gives?
Sorry, “he” in this post is referring to JHC.
by ttubasketball on Jan 22, 2012 10:17 AM EST up reply actions
I'm really curious about this story.
Anyone from that area that can elaborate?
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If the rumor was true
and that was one of the reasons he was not interested in FSU. it would be smart to put him with these guys so he can get to know them. If they can befriend him that would be our best chance at landing him. That is assuming rumors were true and that was affecting his decision
Hearing JHC grandfather sent out a text saying it's now a 3 team race.
UGA, UF, and FSU.. Possibly a lean to FSU also seeing how his coach is an FSU man. Also i saw a picture of Marvin Bracy Wearing #2..
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by Kenow92 on Jan 22, 2012 11:13 AM EST reply actions 3 recs
At least he's not rockin' skinny jeans...
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by JaviLouis on Jan 22, 2012 11:32 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Rec'd for heterosexual logic....
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^^ Bracy..
Wanted #2 but didn’t get it.. He says he will be wearing 11.. 1 + 1 = 2 & Lol i sure hope not on the scrubs
Deion wouldn't let him wear 2 ? Maybe only a DB can wear it ?
by Tony Mustian on Jan 22, 2012 1:58 PM EST up reply actions
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