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Around SBN: What If This Is It For The Celtics? End Of An Era Looming

Oh, oh, oh Michael Snaer!

Credit Snaer with the clutch shot which seems to send announcer Len Elmore to a higher place, but watch Luke Loucks. With less than 5 seconds left in the game he calmly pushes the dribble deep enough in to Duke's territory to draw all attention away from Snaer, then he sends a pass precisely into Snaer's shooting pocket so that he's able to take the shot in rhythm.


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He's been pretty good the last 4 games.

I’ve gone on record as saying I didn’t think he could hack it in the ACC as a starter, but he has been real good. Glad to be wrong.

Formerly known as Randall W. Spetman.

by CornNole on Jan 22, 2012 11:09 PM EST up reply actions  

allow me to ditto that up

couldn’t figure how he started ahead of Peterson (sight unseen).

Wrong. and happy.

Dogs bark in the night but the caravan moves on.

by fmnole on Jan 23, 2012 10:34 AM EST up reply actions  

Loucks had a Great game!

He’s turned into an excellent floor general.

by SailorNole on Jan 23, 2012 12:22 PM EST up reply actions  

Anyone mention that most...

of the FSU starters are seniors? Probably helps.
Don’t know. I’m a football guy.

by Buddy Reynolds on Jan 23, 2012 12:55 PM EST up reply actions  

LOL at "sending him to a higher place"

"If you want to see me, come watch me on Fridays. I play in pads."
-(Future FSU Star) Mario Pender

by SoCalNole on Jan 22, 2012 5:34 PM EST reply actions  

Watching the clip after reading that line had me dying laughing lol

I always laugh at Vitale’s “oh” because of his voice but this had me rolling.

by 504Nole on Jan 22, 2012 10:34 PM EST up reply actions  

The pass

Was amazing. Just as pretty as the shot

by deltnole94 on Jan 22, 2012 5:37 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

The subtle little pick by James was great

and for Loucks to recognize it there

Guy on a Buffalo

by SteadfastNole on Jan 22, 2012 5:37 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

^This^

"You're either carrying a spear, or running from it"

by BigSpearDiplomacy on Jan 22, 2012 7:15 PM EST up reply actions  

Solid pg play

is what has been missing from our team for the most part these past couple years. Really glad Loucks has stepped his play up and been the distributor we need him to be.

by DRob24 on Jan 22, 2012 5:43 PM EST reply actions  

Best Fsu basketball game I have ever watched...

…considering I missed the UNC game this year to go fishing…this one was a nail biter though all the way through

by FSUdrunk on Jan 22, 2012 6:01 PM EST reply actions  

Being that it was @ Duke

I would say the same. Then again, I’ve watched way more FB then BB.

"If you want to see me, come watch me on Fridays. I play in pads."
-(Future FSU Star) Mario Pender

by SoCalNole on Jan 22, 2012 8:02 PM EST up reply actions  

BANG!

i still hntdeer and liv4noles.

by NOLEcasterWX on Jan 22, 2012 6:04 PM EST reply actions  

AP love?

does FSU get ranked b/c of the last week? i know we had a mediocre 1st half of the season, but we’ve been playing some good ball since.

by FSURN on Jan 22, 2012 6:07 PM EST reply actions  

I think we'll be in the group receiving votes but not ranked.

26-30, in other words. 6 losses is too much IMO. However, our schedule has a nice lineup for the next 6 games. I think we have a good shot at all 6. NC State at RBC worries me, though.

by SailorNole on Jan 23, 2012 12:27 PM EST up reply actions  

Polls don't matter...

…Roundball rankings are for nil. FSU is in the top 25 where it matters – in RPI, which is more often an indication of seeding during the selection process. Most (okay, ALL) of the bracketologists have us in the dance, and that’s all that matters.

GO NOLES!
FEAR THE SPEAR!
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by fsutampaguy on Jan 23, 2012 12:59 PM EST up reply actions  

well, if ESPN.com is to be believe,

the coaches have put us just outside the Top 25 at #26, and the writers have us at #23.

Although I also noticed that the RPI estimators are getting really nifty, CBS’ version has us at #21, and I saw that RealTime RPI has us at #24.

Come and see the violence inherent in the system!!!

by GoNolzOhio on Jan 23, 2012 1:06 PM EST up reply actions  

AP

#23.

GO NOLES!
FEAR THE SPEAR!
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by fsutampaguy on Jan 23, 2012 1:13 PM EST up reply actions  

RealtimeRPI...

…is actually more like ReallyslowatupdatingRPI, unless you pay for their actual “REALTIME” RPI ratings, which is ridiculous. I’ve built better websites on GEOCITIES than that crap. lol.

GO NOLES!
FEAR THE SPEAR!
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by fsutampaguy on Jan 23, 2012 1:15 PM EST up reply actions  

I have to say...

Normally I literally can’t watch us play in the past…the no-looks to the announcer table, the dribbles off the foot, etc….

But I did watch this past week, and I’ve got to give credit… This is the best I’ve seen us play over a week’s period in as long as I can remember, and it is truly sweet.

Congrats, team, and keep it coming!

by burkenole on Jan 22, 2012 7:05 PM EST reply actions  

Echo.

I have to second this. I ONLY watch FSU Basketball, and I watch it with a suicide note most weeks. I’m sure I’ll die of heart issues before I’m 40, but I do admit, in recent weeks, the payoff has been so eternally worth it. Offensively, with the seldom miscue (Gibson airball late in the game for example) this team has shortly gone from a complete choke, to a serious 5 seed (God I hope 4 or higher to avoid another Wisconsin opening round in Idaho.)

I really think FSU will do well down the stretch, with our biggest hiccup being against a stellar Virginia defense. Those guys play defense better than we do, and I think that could really cause some problems. Up to now, our scrappy rebounding, and zone play has kept us in games against offensive teams with so-so defenses. Virginia will paste our offense, keep them off-tempo, and make the game very frustrating. Likewise, they will struggle against our bigs, but they will pull off a W in the coming weeks to bring us back down to earth. Short of this, I see us winning 12-13 in conference games. We’ll see.

GO NOLES!
FEAR THE SPEAR!
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by fsutampaguy on Jan 22, 2012 7:53 PM EST up reply actions  

My apologies to those of you who despise soccer, but rewatching that last play a few

times, I was reminded of the goal-scoring sequence by the United States in the 1-0 victory over Algeria at the last World Cup, especially the flawless team advancement into the opponent’s territory in a short period of time, and done in the most crucial of circumstances.

The other commonality is that I was screaming something batsh*t crazy after each of them.

Come and see the violence inherent in the system!!!

by GoNolzOhio on Jan 22, 2012 7:43 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

You don't understand. We don't care about your "futbol".


You don’t understand. You don’t understand because you don’t understand liberty. You don’t understand freedom. So you put a crack in my arm like the crack in the Liberty Bell! You hear me?

Most Miami fans have a bead case of SARS. Slap Ass Retarded Syndrome.

by Nole Resurrected on Jan 23, 2012 4:52 PM EST up reply actions  

I liked Anchorman. However, a friend of mine at work said Stepbrothers is by far

his funniest. I haven’t seen Stepbrothers yet, however.

I think Old School is the best Farrell movie

Come and see the violence inherent in the system!!!

by GoNolzOhio on Jan 23, 2012 8:15 PM EST up reply actions  

Shut your mouth. Sh-sh-shut your mouth.

You haven’t seen Stepbrothers?
Then you haven’t lived. Ever.

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by freshcollegeboy on Jan 23, 2012 9:56 PM EST up reply actions  

allright. No Noles hoops game this weekend, so I can assure you I will

rectify that error.

Come and see the violence inherent in the system!!!

by GoNolzOhio on Jan 23, 2012 10:20 PM EST up reply actions  

I WISH

they would have gotten a crowd shot. I wanted to see all those fans in shock. That is literally one of my favorite parts of watching big teams lose.

by NolenRyan on Jan 23, 2012 10:57 AM EST up reply actions  

Gotcha Covered My Friend

Front Page of the Sunday Sports section in the N&O here in the Triangle.

The best part is that I don’t to have to listen to any comments from my Duke/UNC co-workers. Their silence is victory enough.

by NC Nole on Jan 23, 2012 4:10 PM EST up reply actions  

great picture, thanks for posting.

now, THIS is my desktop background.

Come and see the violence inherent in the system!!!

by GoNolzOhio on Jan 23, 2012 4:37 PM EST up reply actions  

What were they thinking?

GO NOLES!
FEAR THE SPEAR!
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by fsutampaguy on Jan 24, 2012 9:13 AM EST up reply actions  

okay, lol on

“Here, have an elbow!”

Love BJames.

Come and see the violence inherent in the system!!!

by GoNolzOhio on Jan 24, 2012 9:43 AM EST up reply actions  

Um...

…That’s Okaro bud. :)

GO NOLES!
FEAR THE SPEAR!
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by fsutampaguy on Jan 24, 2012 9:54 AM EST up reply actions  

oops.

Come and see the violence inherent in the system!!!

by GoNolzOhio on Jan 24, 2012 11:31 AM EST up reply actions  

Games like that make you want to run onto the field of play and celebrate with the team, away. It’s happened many times with the ’Noles, but the best for me was beating Stanford in 13 innings in the CWS to get into the championship game! Great stuff for those garnet kids. I bet EVERYONE blue in that crowd thought Duke would pull it out in OT once that shot went in with 4.9 left…

by SolidNole on Jan 23, 2012 5:11 PM EST up reply actions  

You know it. The write up in the N&O said all 15 nole fans stormed the court. That is fantastic!

Those kids deserve it. Glad to see them playing well.

by NC Nole on Jan 23, 2012 5:16 PM EST up reply actions  

They kept showing three during the game in a sea of blue.

They’ll be 600 years old, telling the story of this game to earthworms passing by.

by SolidNole on Jan 23, 2012 5:44 PM EST up reply actions  

I went so crazy as soon the ball hit the bat in that Stanford game that I didn’t realize Jernigan had homered until about 5 minutes later.

by 38Noles on Jan 23, 2012 9:56 PM EST up reply actions  

Absolutely.

Crazy two games really, since we were pretty much dead and buried the night before against Stanford before a big comeback.

by 38Noles on Jan 23, 2012 11:37 PM EST up reply actions  

I bet EVERYONE blue in that crowd thought Duke would pull it out in OT once that shot went in with 4.9 left…

To be totally honest, so did I.

Most Miami fans have a bead case of SARS. Slap Ass Retarded Syndrome.

by Nole Resurrected on Jan 24, 2012 8:49 AM EST up reply actions  

For me -

It was my wife’s birthday, and I was SUPPOSED to be getting ready to head out. Instead, I was still in FSU-land, and when they tied it up with 4.9 to play I said “please God, just this once.” SWOOSH.

GO NOLES!
FEAR THE SPEAR!
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by fsutampaguy on Jan 24, 2012 9:56 AM EST up reply actions  

Love how Coach Hamilton

is stone-faced afterwards. Act like you’ve been there before. Act like you expect to win. That’s what this team needs.

by FOshizzleFSU on Jan 22, 2012 8:17 PM EST reply actions  

Loucks

has had series in the last 3 games where he did things that PGs do on good teams. Which is a big reason they are good teams.

Against UNC, he hit the 2nd and 3rd treys in the early going when UNC was sagging off him. He got the home crowd in the game and made UNC come out and guard him early.

When MD took their only lead, he came down on the next possession and, when MD backed off, calmly set his feet and knock down the trey for the lead. On a couple of subsequent possessions, he took an outlet pass, immediately looked upcourt and lobbed the ball ahead to Dulkys on the wing for the trey. Next, he dribbled toward the lane under control to draw three guys and, before they got there, kicked it out to DD for another trey. Besides choking off MD’s rally, he got his trey shooter involved, who hadn’t scored up until that point.

Also against Duke, he made 4-6 FTs in the last 8 mins or so. Ideally, you want your PG shooting 90% from the line, but Loucks isn’t going to do that. I still think it his huge for him to go 4-6 down the stretch in a tight game in Cameron.

Likewise, Snaer made the 2 shots in the final minute to beat Duke in Cameron. That is what he was recruited to do but this is the first time I can remember that he’s done it.

Both of these guys should be confident for the rest of the season that they can do what they are supposed to do in the clutch against whoever it is we’re playing, wherever we are playing. That is huge for the team’s prospects.

by sperrett1 on Jan 22, 2012 8:53 PM EST reply actions  

Thanks for the compliment

and your insightful analysis and the rest of the things you do. I’m a roundball guy (also love football, but played b-ball in high school and rec ball through the years so like to think I know it better) so I’ve really appreciated a first rate basketball component to TN.

by sperrett1 on Jan 22, 2012 9:57 PM EST up reply actions  

how about the Hokies winning at Virginia today?

You see that one coming?

Although my heart sunk a little bit when I saw the 47-45 final score, knowing we have to play the Cavaliers twice.

Come and see the violence inherent in the system!!!

by GoNolzOhio on Jan 22, 2012 11:04 PM EST up reply actions  

Definitely did not see that coming

Then again, UVA’s OOC schedule was weak….they may not be near as good as their record implies.

Formerly known as Randall W. Spetman.

by CornNole on Jan 22, 2012 11:13 PM EST up reply actions  

They're elite on the defensive end. Not so much on offense.

Combine that with one of the slowest tempos in the nation and they should have a lot of close, low-scoring games

by Michael Rogner on Jan 22, 2012 11:18 PM EST up reply actions  

So they are us last year and the beginning of this year?

#UhOh
#HalftimeScore8-5

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by freshcollegeboy on Jan 22, 2012 11:25 PM EST up reply actions  

that 10 point half

had me raging…. if the tv wasn’t new it would have eaten a remote

by StM on Jan 22, 2012 11:26 PM EST up reply actions  

You have a Pomeroy membership?

I’d be interested to see what type of offenses they’ve faced.

Formerly known as Randall W. Spetman.

by CornNole on Jan 23, 2012 12:10 AM EST up reply actions  

They were 1 of 16 from the 3pt line and missed several uncontested layups.

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by FSUcyberpunk on Jan 22, 2012 11:46 PM EST up reply actions  

Awesome.

Thanks for posting

Formerly known as Randall W. Spetman.

by CornNole on Jan 23, 2012 12:11 AM EST up reply actions  

Not too mention the circus three

At the end of the first half. That was huge. Big difference going in down six versus down nine. Definitely kept us in striking range in a game that was close throughout.

by LouC on Jan 23, 2012 7:52 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

I actually went to the free BBall board and UNC was tickled pink about our win over Dook.

Very complimentary to us. There was some speculation as to when was the last time any team had taken down Carolina and Dook the same week. They also liked our chance to sweep Duke (as do I) and want to meet us in the ACCT (which I don’t like as much).

by SailorNole on Jan 23, 2012 12:34 PM EST up reply actions  

I haven't watched college basketball in over a decade. I keep up with it, but haven't really watched it.

I did watch the final minutes of that game. I jumped up off the couch when that final shot went in.

Most Miami fans have a bead case of SARS. Slap Ass Retarded Syndrome.

by Nole Resurrected on Jan 23, 2012 11:03 AM EST reply actions  

Anyone else notice

Okaro White taunting the Duke students while celebrating?
OH WELL

by Hornzrookie on Jan 23, 2012 11:22 AM EST reply actions  

LOVED that.

My photo appeared in the Nightlife photo collage of the FSView for six weeks in-a-row. That’s who I am.

by RollNole5 on Jan 23, 2012 11:32 AM EST up reply actions  

Clock freezes?

I may be crazy, but watch the clock, it appears to briefly freeze at 4.6. That slight freeze might have been the difference on whether or not Snaer’s shot beat the buzzer or not.

by all_day on Jan 23, 2012 11:37 AM EST reply actions  

initially, I was sure Snaer did not get it off in time.

I think I was shell-shocked from Kitchen’s too-late shots from last year.

Come and see the violence inherent in the system!!!

by GoNolzOhio on Jan 23, 2012 11:40 AM EST up reply actions  

But in a roundabout way

That Kitchen miss put us in the position we were in the tourney, where we had that awesome run. So, best of a worst case scenario?

"Rather be forgotten than remembered for giving in"

by 06N0LE on Jan 23, 2012 11:53 AM EST via iPhone app up reply actions  

no doubt. I wasnt meaning to slam Kitchen there, just pointing out that, in my mind,

I was thinking, “oh my god, is gonna be a fraction late again, and we are going to lose in overtime.”

Come and see the violence inherent in the system!!!

by GoNolzOhio on Jan 23, 2012 12:58 PM EST up reply actions  

Echo this.

ESPN’s clock is not the official game clock. The game clock was spot-on, and the light around the backboard had not lit up until well after the shot was airborn. A lot of people around me said “why shoot a 3 when a 2 will win it?”

Well….probably because he needed a good 5 steps to ensure no hand in his face when he put up the shot.

GO NOLES!
FEAR THE SPEAR!
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by fsutampaguy on Jan 23, 2012 1:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Serious NON-HOMER question for you guys:

CAN FSU win the ACC (Regular Season Record)?
CAN FSU win the ACC Tournament?
CAN FSU go further in 2012 than they did in 2011, without Singleton and Kitch?
CAN FSU fans start watching FSU Basketball, and embrace the fact that FSU has become a Basketball school as well?

I’d pay money to see the guy from the baseball games leading cheers at a home Basketball contest.

GO NOLES!
FEAR THE SPEAR!
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by fsutampaguy on Jan 23, 2012 1:19 PM EST reply actions  

Probably Not
Probably Not
Probably Not
and…Probably Not

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by freshcollegeboy on Jan 23, 2012 1:21 PM EST up reply actions  

doh

Sheriff Branford: The fact that you are a sheriff is not germane to the situation.
Buford T. Justice: The god damn Germans got nothin' to do with it!

by GonzoNole on Jan 23, 2012 5:36 PM EST up reply actions  

haters...


…gonna hate.

GO NOLES!
FEAR THE SPEAR!
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by fsutampaguy on Jan 24, 2012 8:52 AM EST up reply actions  

First one is a trick question as the ACC doesn’t recognize a regular season champion. It’s all for seeding.
Yes, but highly unlikely.
Yes, but completely dependent on bracket (if FSU makes it)
Small uptick because of big wins.

by Michael Rogner on Jan 23, 2012 1:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Didn't he die?

What are you glorifying with your life?

by ricobert1 on Jan 23, 2012 1:37 PM EST up reply actions  

Drew Hankin. Zookeeper of the Animals of Section B.

He was a fantastic person. And an even better fan.

I venture to say, if we had a group of fans as dedicated to basketball as we do to baseball, we’d win a few more games each year.

Mike Martin should go coach Hawaii. Then he could have all the poi's he ever wanted - MattDNole

by shonole on Jan 23, 2012 3:46 PM EST up reply actions  

Heck...

…I’d settle for fans watching basketball as much as they do diving or women’s soccer. The Zookeeper was awesome. Kept me from wanting to hang myself every time FSU attempted to eliminate themselves in a home Super.

GO NOLES!
FEAR THE SPEAR!
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by fsutampaguy on Jan 24, 2012 8:55 AM EST up reply actions  

Check out the ACC official at :32 mark...

(bottom right hand of the frame)…Look at the dejection on his face. Can’t believe the Noles knocked off the marquee Carolina teams. Poor guy.

Man, I wish I could see more crowd shots. Particularly that group of tomahawk chop mockers.

F-L-O-R-I-D-A S-T-A-T-E

by NoleFan1977 on Jan 23, 2012 1:41 PM EST reply actions  

Based on teams currently ranked

Beat two top ten teams (Duke/UNC) + 1 team receiving votes (UCF; coaches poll).
Lost to ranked teams: Florida, UConn, Mich St, Harvard (one poll).

To already have played so many ranked teams is insane. I don’t feel so much like raging against the soft OOC schedule anymore.

by Meehl on Jan 23, 2012 2:18 PM EST reply actions  

Can't stop watching this

It feels good to be on the other end of a buzzer beater for a change. And also loving the utter disbelief of their fan’s faces.

Rematch in Tallahassee on Feb 23.

Continue stalking me on Twitter at SaintChaos1.

by SaintChaos on Jan 23, 2012 2:29 PM EST reply actions  

seriously, thats the best news I've heard all day.

I’m voting for you for president.

Come and see the violence inherent in the system!!!

by GoNolzOhio on Jan 23, 2012 3:40 PM EST up reply actions  

Snaer get's his recognition

His buzzer beater was #1 for both ESPN’s Top 10 Plays of the Day (Sat) and Top 10 Plays of the weekend, pretty crazy considering the weekend.

by Snownole on Jan 23, 2012 7:12 PM EST reply actions  

gets, not get's

Got caught up in the excitement for Snaer.

by Snownole on Jan 23, 2012 7:15 PM EST up reply actions  


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