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Looks like he pulled the trigger while he was still on the high from his official visit. He'll decide on signing day between FSU and Auburn.

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WTF?

Feb 1st, please hurry up and get here!

by Tony Mustian on Jan 25, 2012 1:18 PM EST reply actions  

ouch

sounds like we could have really used him.

by StM on Jan 25, 2012 1:18 PM EST reply actions  

We can USE every great athlete we can get.

That’s why Los is moving to Offense.

I like turning beer into pee

by Chief03 on Jan 25, 2012 1:36 PM EST up reply actions  

"moving to offense"

?

Formerly known as Randall W. Spetman.

by CornNole on Jan 25, 2012 2:47 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

I think it depends upon how dedicated the staff is to the move.

If it is a full-time move, then I can see him at RB. He has the size to be a RB. He played it in HS. He would be a nightmare for opposing LBs to cover on pass plays. If by some chance they do have a LB that could keep up with LOS, then NOL should be running free. We’re no where as deep at RB as we are at WR right now, so I can see Jimbo putting him there. But that is only if it’s an all-in move b/c I think he needs that time and effort to pick up the blocking. D-Free picked it up pretty well after only 1 spring, so maybe LOS could too. LOS not only returned the ball well, but he also crushed some people on SpTms last yr. If it works out and JWJ is buried in the depth chart, then maybe he’d move to LB.

If it’s not an all-in move, and the idea is just to get him a few plays in on O and keep his primary position as a S, then I think it’s at WR. We’ll have to wait and see what happens.

by NoleLaw on Jan 25, 2012 11:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Apparently the kid wasn't ready...

…to wear the big boy pants, just yet. Ah the psyche of an 18 year old.

GO NOLES!
FEAR THE SPEAR!
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by fsutampaguy on Jan 25, 2012 1:19 PM EST reply actions  

Rec this.

lol.

GO NOLES!
FEAR THE SPEAR!
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by fsutampaguy on Jan 25, 2012 1:21 PM EST up reply actions  

I browse extra slow in the winter when theres people behind me

Just to see who REALLY needs that movie…..It’s more entertaining than Mr. Poppers Penguins ever was gonna be.

I like turning beer into pee

by Chief03 on Jan 25, 2012 1:29 PM EST up reply actions  

Solves what?

I like turning beer into pee

by Chief03 on Jan 25, 2012 1:52 PM EST up reply actions  

Lol My God....

Tell Al Gore Global Warming is directly attributed to The Iphone….We’re doomed.

I like turning beer into pee

by Chief03 on Jan 25, 2012 2:19 PM EST up reply actions  

It solves having to search through the movies

As far as people waiting in the winter, they can just wait in the car.

by nolesblogger on Jan 25, 2012 2:25 PM EST up reply actions  

How does that work?

Do you guys line up in your cars?

I wouldn’t know, living in Tampa. If it gets “cold” I just put on a windbreaker or long sleeve shirt.

by JNole on Jan 25, 2012 4:59 PM EST up reply actions  

Nobody else saw this coming?

Where ya been?

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by Chief03 on Jan 25, 2012 1:20 PM EST reply actions  

He'll still sign.

……..somewhere.

;)

GO NOLES!
FEAR THE SPEAR!
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by fsutampaguy on Jan 25, 2012 1:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Does this

have anything to do with Auburn signing an OC finally?

When God hands you lemons, squeeze them in a Gator's eye.

by NYC_Nole on Jan 25, 2012 1:23 PM EST reply actions  

I think it's more about competition to win a starting job

FSU-A COPIOUS AMOUNT ON EITHER SIDE
Auburn-Uhh…welll…..ummm….they don’t have alot right now.

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by Chief03 on Jan 25, 2012 1:26 PM EST up reply actions  

Perhap$

It ha$ to do with $omething el$e?

by NC Nole on Jan 25, 2012 1:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Auburn signed some pretty good wr’s the last two cycles. #justsaying

Team work make the dream work

by lloydg on Jan 25, 2012 1:40 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

The OC situation has everything to do with this kid imo.

He was solid on Auburn until they were short an OC at which point he switched to us. Now they have an OC and he immediately drops us and heads back in their direction. I dont think that is coincidence. They got their OC and probably Louis as that was his school of choice all along. I hope I’m wrong.

"I dont hate people. I just feel better when they aren't around." -Bukowski

by cerebralfish on Jan 25, 2012 1:46 PM EST up reply actions  

The logic seems to elude me, though.

Auburn was going to have an OC before the season started anyway, even if they had to hire you or me. What little I’ve read (because I don’t know the guy) tells me the man they hired is not particularly strong. So, why waffle over an OC?

by SolidNole on Jan 25, 2012 2:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Waffling over having no idea who the OC would be

and thus no idea what system would be in place or how he could be used in that system. Its hard to be a top offensive player committed to a team without an offensive coach imo.

"I dont hate people. I just feel better when they aren't around." -Bukowski

by cerebralfish on Jan 25, 2012 2:25 PM EST up reply actions  

I suppose the scheme argument makes some sense.

Though, again, I have a hard time seeing the kid read the ticker about who they hired and suddenly gripping about missing out on the chance to play under him.

by SolidNole on Jan 25, 2012 2:48 PM EST up reply actions  

Most likely

thats what happened they hired an OC and now he wants to do his homework on the new coach. See how he is and what kind of vive he gets from him. At 18 it’s a tough call for someone, specially with his talents. Go with a school he likes, or go with a school that he likes and makes the most sense for him.

by scoobydoo_fl on Jan 25, 2012 4:24 PM EST up reply actions  

so I guess Winston's next then, huh?

since you warned us all about that one, too.

by NolenRyan on Jan 25, 2012 3:12 PM EST up reply actions  

Dude

He was a recent flip. If there’s one thing I’ve learned is recent flips are the last ones I trust until they enroll or sign the dotted line.
It’s not over. We’d love to have him come. And whichever he chooses.

It’s still okay.

by CelticPride on Jan 25, 2012 4:58 PM EST up reply actions  

Bud, Michael, etc ...

Anyone have any comments on the likelihood he picks FSU on NSD? is it 50/50?

by RRnole28 on Jan 25, 2012 1:26 PM EST reply actions  

I would think Auburn

would definitely have the advantage as they have put in much more effort and have had much more face time with this kid right?

"I dont hate people. I just feel better when they aren't around." -Bukowski

by cerebralfish on Jan 25, 2012 1:30 PM EST up reply actions  

We seemed to only pop up on his radar

when Auburn was short an OC imo. As soon as one was hired he started back that direction immediately.

"I dont hate people. I just feel better when they aren't around." -Bukowski

by cerebralfish on Jan 25, 2012 1:37 PM EST up reply actions  

We were on him before, his coach said as much

not sure where we were in his pecking order throughout.

"I spent 90 percent of my money on women and drink. The rest I wasted!"

by JaviLouis on Jan 25, 2012 5:10 PM EST up reply actions  

I think he's attended camps and such at AU.

"I dont hate people. I just feel better when they aren't around." -Bukowski

by cerebralfish on Jan 26, 2012 8:57 AM EST up reply actions  

(Eddie Murphy coming to America voice) Oh oh oh oh there they go.

When a kid decommits from one school he has to pull another decommit out “day” @$$.

by NOLEisticscience on Jan 25, 2012 1:32 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Think this was purely

coming down from his visit? how much part did AU hiring Loeffler play in it?

by RRnole28 on Jan 25, 2012 1:37 PM EST up reply actions  

I suspect it's not 50-50. Buyer's remorse does not come when it's 50-50.

My guess is he is leaning toward Auburn, but wants to keep the door open at FSU for when he finally decides.

by PeachTreeNole on Jan 25, 2012 2:55 PM EST up reply actions  

This happens all the time. Kids commit before they come down from their official visit.

by Bud Elliott on Jan 25, 2012 1:30 PM EST up reply actions  

No dount.

Tough decision. We’ve all been torn on a big decision once in our lives, no? See somebody’s post on the recruiting thread about the pressures (big time salesmen) weighing on these kids.

by SolidNole on Jan 25, 2012 1:38 PM EST up reply actions  

Still want him on the team.

Don’t be a drama queen.

I like turning beer into pee

by Chief03 on Jan 25, 2012 1:30 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

/\ /\ /\ - i love people that only read bold font.

"What kind of addicting substance has Jimbo spiked the Tally water with?
It’s this new thing going around campus lately-I think it’s known by the term…"winning". I hear it’s really addictive and the real hardcore victory junkies can smell it from all the way across the nation."

by SmoothCrimiNole on Jan 25, 2012 1:37 PM EST up reply actions  

post- i'm sure Hart was just saying it because there is always that one that stomps their proverbial feet and say "never wanted him anyway"

"What kind of addicting substance has Jimbo spiked the Tally water with?
It’s this new thing going around campus lately-I think it’s known by the term…"winning". I hear it’s really addictive and the real hardcore victory junkies can smell it from all the way across the nation."

by SmoothCrimiNole on Jan 25, 2012 1:40 PM EST up reply actions  

He's been notorious for showing up on recruiting threads...

and relaying info he found on Bama and Barn boards. Somehow I don’t feel his post is that clever

Somewhere beyond the barricade, is there a world you long to see?

by Sir Lawrence J on Jan 25, 2012 2:34 PM EST up reply actions  

Lol

I like turning beer into pee

by Chief03 on Jan 25, 2012 2:36 PM EST up reply actions  

than you know him better than I.

"What kind of addicting substance has Jimbo spiked the Tally water with?
It’s this new thing going around campus lately-I think it’s known by the term…"winning". I hear it’s really addictive and the real hardcore victory junkies can smell it from all the way across the nation."

by SmoothCrimiNole on Jan 25, 2012 2:41 PM EST up reply actions  

Ahhhhh

Exactly my friend. It’s all up to interpretation

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by Chief03 on Jan 25, 2012 1:41 PM EST up reply actions  

I haven't seen a single positive sounding post out of you.

You’re negative attitude isn’t helping anything

=====>U SUCK 45-17<=====

by unconqured15 on Jan 25, 2012 2:17 PM EST up reply actions  

Not capitalizing the first letter of the non-bold

This made me think he meant that the situation is a joke.

Go tell it to Moses.

by FLpanhandler on Jan 25, 2012 3:57 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Better today than to wait till next Wednesday...

At least the coaches and other recruits can leave their options open.

Gripper

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by Gripper on Jan 25, 2012 1:29 PM EST reply actions  

Jameis Winston or Zeke Pike

I’d have a pretty easy choice to be honest.

Non Mollare, non mai mollare!
ItaliaNole A.K.A. SavvysNole

by ItaliaNole on Jan 25, 2012 1:29 PM EST reply actions  

Any word on him after his USC visit?

My understanding was if he didn’t commit right away, it’d essentially be a 50/50 UF FSU battle.

by Jtyler998 on Jan 25, 2012 1:42 PM EST up reply actions  

Up to

4 decommits now this year
He wa$ really just negotiating with Auburn….

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by Ocalanole on Jan 25, 2012 1:49 PM EST reply actions  

A voice of reason has spoken!!!

"He doesn't know the meaning of the word fear, but then again he doesn't know the meaning of most words" - Bobby Bowden

by SeminoleD on Jan 25, 2012 4:51 PM EST up reply actions  

To be fair

Auburn was his original choice, it’s natural for him to waiver a bit after getting talked up by AU’s new OC. Although him not immediately committing to them is a good sign, I’m concerned that more players might go this route (toward grandstanding on NSD).

Continue stalking me on Twitter at SaintChaos1.

by SaintChaos on Jan 25, 2012 2:05 PM EST reply actions  

Cheezit or Fisher

I just don’t understand how someone could want to play for Chizik. Dude is a clown

by KHow on Jan 25, 2012 2:12 PM EST reply actions  

I believe that's why the good guy wins in the end.

And if he doesn’t and goes to Auburn. We can rationalize it by saying…“do we WANT a guy that stupid?” It’s a win win really

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by Chief03 on Jan 25, 2012 2:14 PM EST up reply actions  

Rec

Not tho' the soldier knew, Some one had blunder'd:
Theirs not to make reply, Theirs not to reason why,
Theirs but to do & die, Into the valley of Death Rode the 85.

by Shooter McFrattin on Jan 25, 2012 2:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Lemonier auto Rec

"I got a PBS mind in an MTV world"...Jimmy Buffett

by The Ryno and I Know on Jan 25, 2012 4:32 PM EST up reply actions  

I know Coach Chizik very well, he is a great guy. He went to the Same high school that Okaro White and Luke Loukes went too...

"I have been crucified with Christ and I no longer live, but Christ lives in me. The life I live in the body, I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave himself for me." Galatians 2:20

by FCANOLE on Jan 25, 2012 2:34 PM EST up reply actions  

Ya he went to school with my parents at Clearwater high.

Fun fact, he was my moms Hc escort her freshmen year lol. Doesn’t relate to this but he is a very respectable guy. He has great parents and is a real good guy. Just my two cents

by FSU@UNF on Jan 25, 2012 4:53 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Dig these two posts. I actually question the guy’s make up, mostly due to the Cam Newton For Hire fiasco. But, obviously, I don’t know him from a fish at the bottom of the ocean. So, this is pretty cool stuff. Gives another side even if it’s not enough to judge a man, either way.

by SolidNole on Jan 25, 2012 5:12 PM EST up reply actions  

But to play the devils advocate...

Nothing was ever proven… And how much of all that crap was newtons dad. Now I am
Not naive to the pressures that d1 coaches face and if u ever had the chance to get a guy like cam it would be hard to stay true to your morals. But i think he is a good coach, and has done a nice job of turning the au program around after tuberville drove it into the ground. We will see what he’s made of now that his coordinators left.

by FSU@UNF on Jan 25, 2012 5:29 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Honestly.

I will look at him differently now. I’ll start at scratch and simply listen to what he has to say from here.

by SolidNole on Jan 25, 2012 11:25 PM EST up reply actions  

I have found your "listening" approach

to be very encumbering. Now I use a list of labels, d-bag, moron, cheat, etc., all negative, and randomly apply one or more of these to each of our opponents under discussion. I think that’s much more fair. Quicker too.

Dogs bark in the night but the caravan moves on.

by fmnole on Jan 25, 2012 11:58 PM EST up reply actions  

Jeff Bowden spinning insult wheel

for opposing coaches

That fact that I'm paranoid doesn't mean that there isn't a conspiracy against us

by stevegrizzle on Jan 26, 2012 10:08 AM EST up reply actions  

I like him. I know its a tough decision. And would want him on the team

At same time decomitting from your school for a year. Committing to FSU. Then decomitting 3 days later this close to signing day when coaches are busy as hell, running all over the country, and trying to lock down kids 24/7 for the next week. Almost makes me want to pull the offer and say ok kid. We dont have time for this. We gave you a spot. We want you. And we need to focus here. Call us the night before signing day and if you want to come ask if we have an open spot still. If we do come on over. But we dont have time for this with a week to go. FSU is still recruiting hard and at an elite level. We cant play these games. Hope you come here and there is still room. If not good luck at Auburn.

And yes I know how it works. And it happens. Would still like him here. But at same time FSU doesnt have time for these games now. So I am frustrated. Although prob am harder on him because he was not really even talked about or expected as a Nole till he suddenly committed. At a position we are deep on. So if he doesnt make it and regrets it later. Sorry kid

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by caine115 on Jan 25, 2012 2:49 PM EST reply actions  

Dude this in based somewhere far from reality.

You don’t try to hard sell a big time prospect. It not like he ha$ no other option$

That fact that I'm paranoid doesn't mean that there isn't a conspiracy against us

by stevegrizzle on Jan 25, 2012 3:26 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm with ya here

Gets boring seeing some of these guys do the whole commit to one place, three days later commit to another place, then back to the original team. I wouldn’t even want gunner kiel since he’s the same way

by Cee on Jan 25, 2012 3:48 PM EST up reply actions  

I completely agree

I dont blame the kid at all. Its not his fault the situation at Auburn changed after he committed.

by dominicannole on Jan 25, 2012 4:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Not saying he did recommit to Auburn

Then I would pull my offer. And I know very well how it works. Seen it time and time again. Why I am not advocating pulling it. But a week a way to say it then back out just as quick when coaches are trying to finalize what they have just has me saying focus where you were going to focus, and if he wants in then great. But we should not go recruit him extra hard and go off plan. And if a spot is in holding then I would want him like I said. But at same time this is a bonus, and someone we were not in on till recently. So to throw a coach off track where they are recruiting him instead of someone who we have been targeting and are in a dog fight with is where its somewhat annoying.

I know these are kids. But decommit, commit somewhere else, decommit 3 days later, wait till NSD, get another few mins on ESPN for your choice, thats what goes on in these kids heads also.

My bigger problem is decommiting from 2 schools in a few days then it is flipping strait up. And the it happens a week before for a kid we would like to have but dont need its like well let us know what you want and your welcome here if we have not signed someone else

A Seminole warrior killed in battle is a legend remembered. A Gator lost in battle becomes a pair of boots and a belt.
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by caine115 on Jan 25, 2012 8:14 PM EST up reply actions  

Gotta question his judgment when he decommits from a class as dominant as our to consider Auburn in thier current state.

That being said, I still really hope we land him. I can’t get those Anquan comparisons out of my head.

by seminoleballer on Jan 25, 2012 2:54 PM EST reply actions  

Maybe the strength of the class

was not his top priority.

Dogs bark in the night but the caravan moves on.

by fmnole on Jan 26, 2012 12:00 AM EST up reply actions  

It is not fair to be hard on the athletes...

the greatest majority of them embrace the school they choose and do their best. Greg Reid could easily have been a Dawg, or a Gator.

by rhodianblue on Jan 25, 2012 3:12 PM EST reply actions  

The history of Greg Reid's commitment...

says that he first committed to Florida, then de-committed, then chose FSU over UGA and Alabama.

by rhodianblue on Jan 25, 2012 4:40 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, I know it, I was just joking around.

There are a bunch of guys who have starred for us (and many other teams) who almost went somewhere else. As long as they’re all garnet & gold once they get here, that’s just an understood part of the recruiting game.

by seminoleballer on Jan 26, 2012 12:24 AM EST up reply actions  

Great athlete....too bad

But a “50/50”chance is always beter than “NAFC”

"You're either carrying a spear, or running from it"

by BigSpearDiplomacy on Jan 25, 2012 3:28 PM EST reply actions  

In jimbo we trust.

Lets not bash the kid, let jimbo go to work and bring him into the seminole family and the rest will be history!

by seminole4 on Jan 25, 2012 4:34 PM EST reply actions  

+1

I get so tired of the sour grapes comments after a kid de-commits. They’re going to make a decision that they think is best for them. Plain and simple. Fans should stop taking it personally.

by PSLNOLE on Jan 25, 2012 5:52 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Just so he can commit to FSU on signing day on ESPN ;)

by Mari Yaguchi on Jan 25, 2012 10:28 PM EST reply actions  

Let's be honest

WR is the one position where we can comfortably go into NSD with some doubt as to who is coming here. If we get him, great. If not, we’ll be fine. I’m a lot happier about flipping an offensive linemen our way than I am upset about potentially losing a WR, even if that WR is the better player.

by BobLoblaw113 on Jan 26, 2012 3:25 PM EST reply actions  


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