2012 Recruiting Discussion Thread #48
by DA-2 on Jan 30, 2012 11:26 PM EST
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PrintWelcome to the recruiting discussion thread. Please refer to the Recruiting Board for information on prospects. We are asking readers comment here instead of the recruiting board so that the recruiting board will load quicker. Feel free to talk recruiting news, rumor, information, etc. Amateurs and experts are all welcome. No question is too simple. Have a projected class? That's fine as well.
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Specific Player Questions (Check here before asking)
- Mario Edwards Jr.- Edwards Jr has Official Visit Florida State. The only other school in the running is Texas. Most question though if he could insult his father's school at this point. He looks to be solid in his commitment to Florida State.
- Dante Fowler- His recruitment has been very interesting. He's grown up a Florida State fan, but still has ties to Florida. He's taken multiple visit to Florida, including this summer when he was rumored to be leaning toward Florida. He also took in the beating Florida received from Alabama in early October. He's remained a Florida State commitment, but is scheduled to take official visits to University of Southern California, as well as Louisiana State. Those schools should not matter though, as he's been quoted as saying it's down to Florida and Florida State. His recruitment should be something interesting to watch. Dante Fowler looks to be solid to Florida State; Leonard Williams is the only wildcard that may change things.
- Leonard Williams- Many people thought Florida State was done at DE. Perhaps not. Leonard showed out at the Under Armour game, and looks to be an Auburn-Florida-Florida State battle. Experts are saying Auburn at this point.
- Andrus Peat- One of the more intriguing players in this class. Although at first glance you question why a kid from Arizona with a brother at Nebraska would go to FSU, there is some interest here. Peat's grandparents surprisingly live in Tallahassee. FSU still isn't the favorite to get Peat, that's probably Nebraska, but it's not impossible for Peat to be a Nole come signing day. And there is no question that FSU would take him if he wants in. 1/4/12 update: Corey Long of ESPN.com is reporting he plans to visit FSU the weekend of January 20th. UPDATE: Peat did not make the visit due to some family issue. Most believe Nebraska leads at this point.
- Jameis Winston- is a Nole. There's no talk of him switching to hometown Alabama. There's no visits scheduled to Florida State yet (that are known of), but there are none to Alabama either. No need to worry about this point. As mentioned below, he enjoyed his Official Visit.
- Ronald Darby- Five star Notre Dame decommitment from Maryland. Should be a FSU-Clemson battle. Rumor has it that Florida State leads because of their track program, and he wants to play with WR Marvin Bracy (fastest high school runner ever).
- AJ Leggett- will enroll at Marshall. He's not coming to Florida State, where he would've been a sign and place.
- Early Enrollees- JUCO OL Daniel Glauser, RB Mario Pender, P Cason Beatty
- Colin Blake- has decommitted from TAMU. FSU, TCU, OU look to be the favorites.
- Reggie Northrup- 4 star Miami LB commit... or so they think? Grew up a Florida State fan, and some insiders have him flipping to FSU. Comes from FSU feeder school First Coast (Jacksonville, FL).
- Tracy Howard- four/five-star corner Tracy Howard is seriously considering UF and FSU. Many believe UF leads, but he is taking a visit to Miami this weekend and this thing could go in any direction.
Official Visits
1/13/2011
WR Nelson Agholor
OT Menelik Watson- Juco OT who has been playing football for only a year. One of the best athletes you will find on the offensive line, but is just learning the game.
DE Mario Edwards
QB Sean Maguire
TE Christo Kourtzidis
LB Markuss Eligwe
WR Ricardo Louis
DB Colin Blake
DB Ronald Darby
Note: Dr Krop Athlete Johnnie Durante and CB Colin Blake are working on setting up official visits. More info on Blake here
1/20/2012
K Roberto Aguayo (GREYSHIRTING)
DL Justin Shanks
DE Chris Casher
LB Josh Clemons
QB Jameis Winston
LB Reggie Northrup
WR Marvin Bracy
Update 1/16
- Added the 2012 recruiting board.
- Florida State's minimum needs
Please keep in mind that it is unlikely all of these players will qualify. FSU is unlikely to enroll 25 players or anything like that.
QB Sean Maguire
QB Jameis Winston
RB Delmarick "Mario" Pender
WR Marvin Bracy
TE Christo Kourtzidis
1 RB/WR/TE
OL Daniel Glauser
OL
OL (Optional)
DE Dante Fowler, Jr.
DE Chris Casher
DE Mario Edwards, Jr.
DT Dalvon Stuckey
DT Justin Shanks
DL
LB Markuss Eligwe
LB
DB P. J. Williams
DB (Optional)
1-2 DB/LB/DL
K Roberto Aguayo (GREYSHIRTING)
P Cason Beatty
credit: TimScribble, caine115, fsugrizz.
credit: TimScribble
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Thanks for a great recruiting season fellas! This will be the last thread.
I know I was tested for my patience with this class. It’s still better than the 2010 class though. Those times had me fearful we weren’t going to get anyone.
For those that are the praying type, my MBA application to FSU is due on NSD, ironically (graduating this semester with a degree in Accounting and Finance). I’d appreciate any prayers. Just finishing my personal statement. If anyone would like to proofread it, that’d be cool too.
Eddie Goldman, Ronald Darby, Colin Blake, Reggie Northrup please
by DA-2 on Jan 30, 2012 11:44 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
DA i sent a prayer for you. Best wishes.
by FSU on Jan 30, 2012 11:53 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
On a similar note, mind sending a few my way as well?
Like my bro DA, I am starting graduate school in April.
Should be interesting with 22mo and 3mo old girls :)
I am going to be a walking, talking zombie for about 19 months.
'Gentlemen, it is better to have died a small boy than to fumble this football.' John Heisman
Good luck. I am in the MBA program right now.
My son was born last year, 2 semesters in. He turns 1 next week and I have 2 semesters left. Best of luck!
As you can always expect come from behind victory is when you least expect it.
Buc Wild you're a Nole fan too?! Awesome! Go Bucs! Go Noles! :)
by flash_kiley on Jan 31, 2012 11:14 AM EST via Android app up reply actions 2 recs
Go Raiders as well!
No? Nothin……?
"If you want to understand a society, take a good look at the drugs it uses. And what can this tell you about American culture? Well, look at the drugs we use. Except for pharmaceutical poison, there are essentially only two drugs that Western civilization tolerates: Caffeine from Monday to Friday to energize you enough to make you a productive member of society, and alcohol from Friday to Monday to keep you too stupid to figure out the prison that you are living in."
- Bill Hicks (another dead hero)
by YouNoleIt on Jan 31, 2012 11:57 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
do you know if the online mba program is hard
i was thinking about applying
I love FSU
but tbh, I don’t think the online nor f2f MBA program is that strenous. I think it will depend on if the faculty you take care (and a lot of them do).
I am going to be a walking, talking zombie for about 19 months.
If you get your MBA, it will be much longer than that!
Sorry, just the engineer in me talking.
For every complex problem there is an answer that is clear, simple, and wrong.
-H.L. Mencken
by devnole on Jan 31, 2012 10:55 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Not going for the MBA. Getting a Masters in Management.
I have no desire to be a hero. I just want a master’s degree.
'Gentlemen, it is better to have died a small boy than to fumble this football.' John Heisman
I just wanted to avoid real life a bit longer.
For every complex problem there is an answer that is clear, simple, and wrong.
-H.L. Mencken
I am already knee-deep in it
'Gentlemen, it is better to have died a small boy than to fumble this football.' John Heisman
If you don't care about results
It’s easy
Shot a Gator in Jean Shorts just to watch him die.
by AMFKNole on Jan 31, 2012 2:22 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Were a surprisingly educated bunch here aren't we?
by FSU Pope on Jan 31, 2012 3:53 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
Engineer rec.
Eff all these bankers and lawyers.
by Dr.KennethNoisewater on Jan 31, 2012 1:58 PM EST up reply actions
Making the world go ’round. Who needs the wheel?
by Renegade_Rider on Jan 31, 2012 2:03 PM EST up reply actions
Me too.
Not enough vitriol against the churlish knaves of society. DKN, you shouldn’t have held back and abbreviated your attack.
I like engineers.
They are a personable bunch when the come to me looking to raise money.
Somebody's got to pay us
to design and build your little office buildings safe and cozy enough for your email and pie chart conventions.
by Dr.KennethNoisewater on Jan 31, 2012 4:56 PM EST up reply actions
Just kidding guys. I will argue that engineers should at least find IP lawyers more appealing than most.
by Renegade_Rider on Jan 31, 2012 5:47 PM EST up reply actions
they also need us
for their commercial real estate transactions and developments so they can have those buildings built
We need some more healthcare guys.
We lack depth at that position.
Formerly known as Randall W. Spetman.
I want to see a mockup TN 2012 class
Need a breakdown of where we have needs and how what recruits we’re in the running for to fill them
I am healthcare…just not a Dr..
Florida IS the state of college football....And Tallahassee is its Capitol!!!!
by Mellocello63 on Jan 31, 2012 4:38 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Working on it
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by freshcollegeboy on Jan 31, 2012 11:54 PM EST up reply actions
Do you know how to keep an engineer in suspense?
>------::----::------->Spearing 'em and Scalping 'em like it's 1999
I'm not so sure this Jimbo fella is the right man for the job.
Jack up his insurance premiums
because some a-hole banker hired a bigger a-hole attorney to swindle you out of millions?
by Dr.KennethNoisewater on Jan 31, 2012 4:51 PM EST up reply actions
Yessir
And that’s where I come in :-D
by FSUActuary on Jan 31, 2012 4:59 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
I thought of becoing an actuary
but I went the Biostats route
by CanadianNole on Jan 31, 2012 5:01 PM EST up reply actions
Its mostly boring stuff.
My line of work is in predictive modeling,a little more interesting (think “Moneyball” for insurance).
by FSUActuary on Jan 31, 2012 5:29 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
Oh mine's no better
Predictive modelling on psoriasis patients. Predicting best treatment regimens based on their genetic makeup
by CanadianNole on Jan 31, 2012 5:31 PM EST up reply actions
preachin to the choir, brother
i am going to be the guy on the other side of the table, telling them to take their BS lawsuit and shove it, thus saving you money and making some for me, and sticking it to the guy who essentially attempted fraud. win-win-win.
admittedly i win twice to your once, but you win bigger than my first win, and the second is a win for everyone. you are all welcome.
"I guess they have a reputation of being more of a tricky team and not being tough. You hit ‘em in the mouth, and they don’t like it. Other teams that have beat them just hit them in the mouth, so that’s what we started out with.’’ - Nick Moody
Oddly enough DR. Ken
My MBA came from the Naval Postgrad…
Lucky you. I'm doing it the old fashioned way.
by Dr.KennethNoisewater on Jan 31, 2012 6:44 PM EST up reply actions
I took courses after my MSEE
but was advised by Personnel (substitute, HR) at my company not to get a PhD. Honestly; “bad career move.” Their guidelines for hiring engineering PhD’s were pretty simple, “Only do it if you must.”
But one of the most impressive and powerful (technically) engineers I ever met finished his dissertation, so…
Dogs bark in the night but the caravan moves on.
It's probably a salary thing
Why pay a PhD salary for a masters level work
Congrats on batting .1000 so far.
>------::----::------->Spearing 'em and Scalping 'em like it's 1999
I'm not so sure this Jimbo fella is the right man for the job.
ditto, keep it up
as long as they are actually guilty, anyway… :)
"I guess they have a reputation of being more of a tricky team and not being tough. You hit ‘em in the mouth, and they don’t like it. Other teams that have beat them just hit them in the mouth, so that’s what we started out with.’’ - Nick Moody
Yeah, good luck DA. It's a great time to get back on campus!
Btw, Bud did you go to FSU Law? I’m a 1L there, and I thought I heard you were a grad.
The 2012 class was a little risk/reward with going heavy on top OOS in big football states and it looks like it is gonna work out pretty nicely. Got top guys from Georgia, Texas, Cali, Texas, the Jersey Shore, and Alabama. I think they need to focus on in-state for 3013 since the talent seems to be better than 2012. Congrats on the upcoming graduation my DA.
by bobbysura on Jan 30, 2012 11:59 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
No, 3013 was right--part of #TheProcess involves long-term vision & planning.....
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Good luck man!
Got a few prayers for you tonight.
'Gentlemen, it is better to have died a small boy than to fumble this football.' John Heisman
by Nattylite on Jan 31, 2012 12:01 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Gotcha buddy...
Thanks for all the hard work…Should we expect the 2013 Recruiting Discussion Thread #1 up Thursday? (kidding)
by Seminole4Life9 on Jan 31, 2012 12:13 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
best of luck dude
if you got this far, im sure you did great
"I guess they have a reputation of being more of a tricky team and not being tough. You hit ‘em in the mouth, and they don’t like it. Other teams that have beat them just hit them in the mouth, so that’s what we started out with.’’ - Nick Moody
by nole07 on Jan 31, 2012 12:39 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I just finished apps to b school myself
I can read your essay for you if you need.
The Funk Phenomenon.
Follow @willdabeast215
by willdabeast on Jan 31, 2012 12:45 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
That'd be awesome. Should I use the email you signed up for the site with?
Eddie Goldman, Ronald Darby, Colin Blake, Reggie Northrup please
Yeah totally.
Email me. I’m totally down. I’m pretty excited I got an interview invite at UVA Darden yesterday gotta take a trip to Charlottesville.
The Funk Phenomenon.
Follow @willdabeast215
That's awesome.
Did my undergrad at UVA, but highly doubt I would’ve gotten in at Darden. Wahoo Wah!
willdabeast-
Let me know if you want any pointers. I went to Dartmouth Tuck, but came very close to choosing Darden and went through the interview process.
by TuckNole on Jan 31, 2012 3:22 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I was going to ask if you went to Tuck
Tuck is my first choice I’ve interviewed and visited already. I’d be happy to take any pointers.
The Funk Phenomenon.
Follow @willdabeast215
Didn't go to Tuck or Darden
A friend of mine is at Tuck now and, barring the fact that it’s in NH, he likes it a lot.
I was fortunate enough to get into 3 of my 4 choices. My advice for any B School interview is that there is not substitute to going to the campuses and checking things out for yourself. Check who does the interviews: an interview by a 2nd year student is VERY DIFFERENT from one by an admissions employee – rapport, types of questions, etc. Some interviews are more predictable than others. There are forums that post interview reports and, while you can’t expect somebody to ask you those questions, you can start building a pool and preparing answers. I personally think that an applicant’s job at the interview is to not mess it up. In top programs, 6 out of 10 people who interview get in (on average).
No matter where you go, you’ll have a great time. I couldn’t be happier with my decision to leave my job and come to B School. Best of luck!
feel free to email me
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Congrats man
Met a girl while I was interviewing for business school that now goes to Darden. Pretty solid program IMO.
Hey bro got your essay. I sent you another email from a different address
Can you just send me the prompt question and the word count for you essay? I already see a couple of things but knowing the prompt is pretty important.
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prayer sent your way
good luck buddy
F-L-O-R-I-D-A S-T-A-T-E FLORIDA STATE FLORIDA STATE FLORIDA STATE WOOOOOOOO!!!
KTBFFH!!
#JesusisLord
by Noleforever9399 on Jan 31, 2012 1:41 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Prayers your way. /execute/
You are more than the choices that you've made, You are more than the sum of your past mistakes, you are more than the problems you create, you are more, You've been remade - Tenth Avenue North
by FSUvaFan on Jan 31, 2012 7:21 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I'm sending whatever the non-religious equivalent is.
Good luck man!
by Nole2005 on Jan 31, 2012 7:28 AM EST up reply actions 4 recs
Ditto.
Good luck!
"If you want to understand a society, take a good look at the drugs it uses. And what can this tell you about American culture? Well, look at the drugs we use. Except for pharmaceutical poison, there are essentially only two drugs that Western civilization tolerates: Caffeine from Monday to Friday to energize you enough to make you a productive member of society, and alcohol from Friday to Monday to keep you too stupid to figure out the prison that you are living in."
- Bill Hicks (another dead hero)
I, too, am sacrificing an orphaned chicken in your honor.
Just so you know…..it will be dipped in seasoned flour & dropped in boiling oil-just the way Crom demands.
#TheGodsArePleased
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by DRusso97 on Jan 31, 2012 10:17 AM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Fried chicken dipped in bbq sauce??
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I too, am currently sacrificing an orphaned chicken.
Chunked up and covered in buffalo sauce. But it is not in anyone’s honor except my own.
But good luck with school!
Jobu's got your backside
Is very bad to steal Jobu’s rum; is very bad.
Word has it you didn’t and therefore you’re covered.
You tellin me Jesus Christ can't pass the MBA?
2011 winner of the DocHoliday2 MS Paint/Photoshop Award. So I've got that going for me.
by ricobert1 on Jan 31, 2012 12:06 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I thought that was organic chemistry?
For every complex problem there is an answer that is clear, simple, and wrong.
-H.L. Mencken
Go meet with the MBA administrators and admissions folks
I know this has nothing to do with recruiting. I was on the waiting list at law school and drove up to meet the admissions director a month before school started. I wanted to show them I was interested in the school and take a tour in the event I was accepted. While I was there I was able to make a personal connection with the admissions staff that otherwise would not have come across on paper. The next day I was accepted, and then spent 5 great years in Tallahassee. It is well worth the time and effort.
I'd be glad to help you out DA.
I’ve been through that process and completed my MBA at UGA in 2005.
by PeachTreeNole on Jan 31, 2012 9:47 AM EST up reply actions
Congratulations
You should do fine in Grad School, IMO, it is easier than Accounting @ FSU, mine was long ago, but it was hard.
If it's any help, my roommate junior and senior year was an FSU MBA student.
And he was a complete idiot, had horrible grades in undergrad at Northern Illinois University.
My gut says you’re 10000x the candidate he was. Go get ’em.
I'd be willing to take a look at it.
I worked in the writing center at FSU outlining and proofreading grad application essays for two years and am currently MFA at UM. Email me if you want a second pair of eyes on the personal statement. Kyle@pieboxproductions.com
Upon reading your essay,
I’ve realized we’ve been acquaintances since elementary school. Small world. Haven’t seen you since what, probably BFC with Connor at Villa Del?
by FSU Pope on Jan 31, 2012 3:50 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
Probably. Extremely small world, Kyle.
Eddie Goldman, Ronald Darby, Colin Blake, Reggie Northrup please
I'll read it, if you'd like.
I had A’s in every writing class in both undergrad and in law school and was an editor of a law journal.
#GrammarPolice
#Resume
I'll read it too...
I am just a normal guy. Had mostly A’s and B’s in highschool.
"If you want to understand a society, take a good look at the drugs it uses. And what can this tell you about American culture? Well, look at the drugs we use. Except for pharmaceutical poison, there are essentially only two drugs that Western civilization tolerates: Caffeine from Monday to Friday to energize you enough to make you a productive member of society, and alcohol from Friday to Monday to keep you too stupid to figure out the prison that you are living in."
- Bill Hicks (another dead hero)
by YouNoleIt on Jan 31, 2012 2:46 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Hell, I'll jump on board too. It's due tomorrow, but I'll look at it.
Former English teacher and pain in the ass about details.
I assume it’s probably too late though considering it’s due tomorrow….
I'm out
I hate reading. If you want math or anything numbers related reviewed, then I’ll jump onboard
by CanadianNole on Jan 31, 2012 10:03 PM EST up reply actions
I would be glad to read it also.
My grades, especially in writing, pretty much sucked; but judging by this crowed, I have a unique point of view to offer. I don’t know how valuable it is, but it is here if you need it.
Best of luck to you DA.
When ahead never let up. When behind never give up.
It is hard to overestimate how significant the advantage you gain from being underestimated.
by Chief Pit Bull on Feb 1, 2012 5:32 AM EST up reply actions
Colin Blake
As of today, the guys I know in the TCU athletic dept think he signs with FSU despite the great TCU visit earlier. Take it fwiw
We were all created to be Seminoles. This is why we bleed garnet and piss gold.
by NoleThruandThru on Jan 31, 2012 1:02 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
I heard this as well.
Hoping to finish with both Darby and Blake, among others obviously.
"FSU Football is all about speed. Hot, nasty, bad-ass speed."
-Eleanor Roosevelt
Love me some fuzzys
We were all created to be Seminoles. This is why we bleed garnet and piss gold.
by NoleThruandThru on Jan 31, 2012 10:54 AM EST up reply actions
Quiet is a good thing today.
'Gentlemen, it is better to have died a small boy than to fumble this football.' John Heisman
Hey look, it's Raf
Ya, a little TOO Raf.
Shot a Gator in Jean Shorts just to watch him die.
by AMFKNole on Jan 31, 2012 9:19 AM EST via Android app up reply actions 6 recs
greatness!!
still have that movie on vhs
F-L-O-R-I-D-A S-T-A-T-E FLORIDA STATE FLORIDA STATE FLORIDA STATE WOOOOOOOO!!!
KTBFFH!!
#JesusisLord
by Noleforever9399 on Feb 1, 2012 12:49 AM EST up reply actions
whats the latest on Eligwe?
I thought this kid was all nole, kind of surprising he may be the last second flip. Atleast its not to a rival.
I saw a link that claimed he was delaying his announcement. Who knows if that is true.
DUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUVAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAL!
by DownTownJax on Jan 31, 2012 9:09 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
He tweeted a long time ago that he will sign on the 6th
But just because 6 is his favorite number.
by flfisher1423 on Jan 31, 2012 9:13 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
I’m not so sure about that. I followed him for months up until the nonsense yesterday, and yesterday is the first time I recall him saying he would be delaying his signing until the 6th.
by CrimiNole Defense on Jan 31, 2012 10:13 AM EST up reply actions
Let him know that two Cal recruits flipped to Washington today.
Something’s going on.
He RT'd me, and therefore promoted me to 1200 potential new fans. : )
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Then you need to tell JLYOP to stop calling you Derek
Oops
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by CornNole on Jan 31, 2012 9:49 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
#ThroesOfPassion and all that.....
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I don't get it.
He was apparently down to FSU-UF, he witnessed FSU spank UF, and somehow we’ve become the longshot.
"Nothing like a tight one." -Heather Cox
Re: blue chips
How many of those 38 are still at UF, didn’t they lose a ton of people this past year due to transfers, etc.?
You tell em I'm coming, and Hell's comin with me!!!!
by DownByTheRiverWalkinOnWater on Jan 31, 2012 9:22 AM EST up reply actions
Might be a stupid question here
Let me start off by saying I realize you don’t turn away talent like Howard. However, how much does FSU really want him? FSU plays a mostly zone based scheme and Howard is good at man. It just doesn’t seem like a good fit.
That's always been the point of contention - he talks about wanting to play a lot of press coverage, and play early.
Those are things this defense just can’t really offer a lot of.
Well that's why Howard wouldn't want to come to FSU
I’m more wondering about why FSU would recruit Howard. It might be that they aren’t spending as much time as I imagine on him but it would seem time could be better spent on other positions. I don’t necessarily agree with recruiting talent for talent’s sake especially with FSU being able to fill slots with highly talented players that work in it’s system.
Oh, well, he can definitely play zone well, too. I think he just prefers to play man. Or thinks he does.
Yeah I doubt he has a full understanding of just what each entails against D-1 offenses in a D-1 scheme. But, what can ya do.
>>---l>
OK, I understand now
I was under the impression that there was a decent drop off on his defense when switching from man to zone but that’s not the case. Thank you.
I was thinking this too DK...
Most bigtime high school athletes just flat out are more dominant physically than their competition.
Man schemes in D1 football are light years away from man schemes in high school.
Totally with you on the notion that he might not have a full understanding of this. Boom-Boom-Pow is probably just trying to build him up on what he is already comfortable in because he coaches a man scheme.
'Gentlemen, it is better to have died a small boy than to fumble this football.' John Heisman
by Nattylite on Jan 31, 2012 9:47 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
comparing Muschamp to the awful Black Eyed Peas
gets a rec from me
"I guess they have a reputation of being more of a tricky team and not being tough. You hit ‘em in the mouth, and they don’t like it. Other teams that have beat them just hit them in the mouth, so that’s what we started out with.’’ - Nick Moody
Unfortunately, I can't take full credit for that.
EDSBS did a piece where Muschamp was equated to BoomBoomPow and Charlie Weis as “My Lumps”
'Gentlemen, it is better to have died a small boy than to fumble this football.' John Heisman
We do quite a bit of press coverage vs the other team's best WR.
For instance didnt we go press man on Broyles, Floyd, and Jeffery? I think Stoops will go press as much as the talent he has will allow him.
"A better ending could not have been scripted. Of course, if we had won, that would have been better." -Bobby Bowden
by cerebralfish on Jan 31, 2012 11:31 AM EST up reply actions
How do you explain XR27's press man vs Floyd last game?
I know Stoops runs a zone but he has a history of running press man with his best CB vs the opponents best WR.
"A better ending could not have been scripted. Of course, if we had won, that would have been better." -Bobby Bowden
by cerebralfish on Jan 31, 2012 2:01 PM EST up reply actions
There are several variants in zone schemes that allows for press coverage
Including version of the Tampa 2 that can look like pure man press from the line up. Along with several robber type coverages that show press at the snap.
I don't think so.
Year one, no better alternative. Year two, depended on the offense. Year three, bend and break opponent guy.
by Dr.KennethNoisewater on Jan 31, 2012 2:02 PM EST up reply actions
And I DON'T mean that as a joke.
Gonna have one of the best 2 or 3 defenses, laden with NFL talent at every position group. Bending is avoidable against most offenses.
by Dr.KennethNoisewater on Jan 31, 2012 2:06 PM EST up reply actions
Stoops said in an interview
that someone is playing man on many of his plays.
A LOT. FSU is all in & not letting up until the bitter end.......should tell you everything you need to know.
However, how much does FSU really want him?
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Just because he enjoys playing man doesn't mean he'd be good at zone
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by AMFKNole on Jan 31, 2012 10:30 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
I have seen XR27 in man several times.
I think Stoops will go press man vs the other team’s best WR if he has a CB like XR27 who can do it.
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by cerebralfish on Jan 31, 2012 11:33 AM EST up reply actions
To complete his game.
Zone is a learning process. To excel at the next level to a higher degree, he would benefit from rounding out his came and becoming a complete player. In man coverage, he is at least a good take as a situational player. If he has the desire to learn, the skills are there to complete his game. Stoops would work wonders with him IMO. Depends on whether the kid wants to learn and increase his value or do what comes easiest (what he’s best at now).
It seems there is another criteria to consider for a DB - the competition.
Looking a this years NFL playoffs suggests that the level of WR/TE play in the ACC is as good as any conference, if not better.
I feel more like I do now, than I did before
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by HaveNoleOption on Jan 31, 2012 11:43 AM EST up reply actions
Darby is just as good
if not better. Maybe to keep him away from our rivals+he is good so he would be nice to have.
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not sure what "best" means.
He would have to learn to play in our zone defense, just like Darby. And Darby is significantly faster.
by PeachTreeNole on Jan 31, 2012 12:29 PM EST up reply actions
Zone concepts
require more pattern reading and click and close ability than stopwatch speed. Straight line speed is a bit overrated in corners. The abliity to transition and mirror WR’s is whats paramount
by westcoastnolefan on Jan 31, 2012 1:52 PM EST up reply actions
Plant & go C.O.D. - Blake haz it.
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This is whats odd to me with Howard
I watched his state championship game and the int he got was when he was playing zone and since this was the state championship i can’t fathom that this was the only game they played zone.
He can do either
man or zone coverage. I’ve heard this was an issue but I guess he truly does prefer man coverage though
by westcoastnolefan on Jan 31, 2012 7:38 PM EST up reply actions
Agreed
I’ve heard that NFL scouts will definitely dock you for not having a good 40 time though. One of the posters on here is related to a scout, so maybe he could clarify, but I’ve heard many scouts say successful CBs that didn’t have good straight line speed were more of the exception rather than the rule. I think Alfonzo Dennard’s draft stock depends heavily on his 40 time results.
I will be very surpirsed
if sign anyone other than
Goldman
Darby
Blake
Northrup
Duckett
Will Duckett count toward 2012 rankings?
Even if he is a grey shirt, seems like it should count as an EE for 2013
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by DownByTheRiverWalkinOnWater on Jan 31, 2012 10:23 AM EST up reply actions
there's a lot of smoke about Goldman and Auburn
hope O’dell doesn’t get Marvin Au$tin’d again :(
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by Nattylite on Jan 31, 2012 10:33 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
but PAWWWWLLL
why would Goldman want to play anywhere but the ESS-EEE-CEE?!
by paperjames on Jan 31, 2012 10:38 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Since there are 6 replies that don't answer you're question :)
The answer is greyshirts count towards the next year’s class.
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by freshcollegeboy on Jan 31, 2012 11:26 AM EST up reply actions
what would the answer be for 5 non-sequitor replies?
Dogs bark in the night but the caravan moves on.
Fair to say this is the order of confidence most FSU fans should have on uncommitted kids?
Northrup
Blake
Darby
Goldman
JHC
Nelson Agholor
Leonard Williams
Tracy Howard
Not counting Duckett.
I would put Golman and Darby higher
But that’s just what I’ve pieced together from this site.
For every complex problem there is an answer that is clear, simple, and wrong.
-H.L. Mencken
i think Howard should be right under JHC
we have no shot at Agholor (USC) or Williams (numbers), and i would put Darby and Goldman above Blake (in that order).
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i dont think we get him
but he gave us more of a shot than Agholor ever did.
"I guess they have a reputation of being more of a tricky team and not being tough. You hit ‘em in the mouth, and they don’t like it. Other teams that have beat them just hit them in the mouth, so that’s what we started out with.’’ - Nick Moody
I would move Northrup to 3 and say everything else is about right for my confidence levels
by SimaNole on Jan 31, 2012 11:03 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
Tulane just flipped a 4* CB from Texas A&M. Does anyone see this influencing Blake at all?
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How the heck did Tulane flip a 4* from anywhere?
Not that I have anything against the Green Wave (my other Alma Mater).
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-H.L. Mencken
We hired the the Saints WR coach (a young black guy from the area), got rid of that douche Toledo, and after Mike Sherman got fired apparently the kid was looking around. Their class has already improved by leaps and bounds over the past few. BTW, when did you graduate?
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Ages ago.
I went there for my Ph.D. and graduated in ’96.
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Completing my PhD in Medicine now
SOOOOO ready for it to be over
by CanadianNole on Jan 31, 2012 12:07 PM EST up reply actions
A doctorate of philosophy im medicine? Sounds interesting
by NeuroNole on Jan 31, 2012 8:00 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
You keep using that word.
I don’t think it means what you think it does.
For every complex problem there is an answer that is clear, simple, and wrong.
-H.L. Mencken
ahhhh it's ok
I’m just doing it for the letters.
by CanadianNole on Jan 31, 2012 9:46 PM EST up reply actions
A few kids I personally know are in last year's and this year's class.
I got free tickets to the Syracuse game and sat right behind the Tulane bench. It’s crazy how much smaller Tulane’s players were than Syracuse’s. I first met coach CJ when he was recruiting Akeem Jolla to Miami. Very cool dude. Really excited for him and the New Orleans kids on the roster.
No
We were all created to be Seminoles. This is why we bleed garnet and piss gold.
by NoleThruandThru on Jan 31, 2012 11:13 AM EST up reply actions
I've tried to be really fair and rational about the bagman rumors at Auburn.
But if they miraculously swing Goldman and Darby tomorrow, I’m going to demand a full investigation.
Rumors? Auburn has been caught paying players many times in the past. Many of the same people still have significant involvement in the program.
by Bud Elliott on Jan 31, 2012 11:40 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
We all love to watch others open presents on Christmas morning.
I trust that is what Trooper is thinking.
Bud, based on what you know of Goldman and Darby, do you think they'd be succeptible?
I thought I’d read somewhere that Goldman’s family was not at all wrapped up in material things, I guess he played at a really underfunded high school because of his relationship with the coach.
And I know Darby really likes Bracy and wants to team up on the track.
I just want to believe that there are recruits out there who can turn down bags of cash in favor of other things.
Screw that
I just want to know theyre turning down Navy and Orange bags of cash for equally heavy bags of cash that are Garnet & Gold.
Shot a Gator in Jean Shorts just to watch him die.
by AMFKNole on Jan 31, 2012 11:46 AM EST via Android app up reply actions 1 recs
We do
Accept it.
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by AMFKNole on Jan 31, 2012 11:50 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
haha was gonna say that is kinda naive.
"If you want to understand a society, take a good look at the drugs it uses. And what can this tell you about American culture? Well, look at the drugs we use. Except for pharmaceutical poison, there are essentially only two drugs that Western civilization tolerates: Caffeine from Monday to Friday to energize you enough to make you a productive member of society, and alcohol from Friday to Monday to keep you too stupid to figure out the prison that you are living in."
- Bill Hicks (another dead hero)
Not sure if serious?
"If you want to understand a society, take a good look at the drugs it uses. And what can this tell you about American culture? Well, look at the drugs we use. Except for pharmaceutical poison, there are essentially only two drugs that Western civilization tolerates: Caffeine from Monday to Friday to energize you enough to make you a productive member of society, and alcohol from Friday to Monday to keep you too stupid to figure out the prison that you are living in."
- Bill Hicks (another dead hero)
Me, too.
That other stuff is sensational and easy to say. It smacks of pseudo-savvy awareness. I don’t buy it. Certainly not in the cavalier manner in which it gets thrown around here on these boards. Bags of money. Sheesh! Jtyler, we’re a band of two on this one.
Just accept it. You can't fight the truth: top teams pay top players. Period.
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by DRusso97 on Jan 31, 2012 11:58 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I don't doubt it
but I doubt that anyone here saying “this is the way it is” has actually seen it, or they wouldn’t be talking about it.
For every complex problem there is an answer that is clear, simple, and wrong.
-H.L. Mencken
I believe a conspiracy killed JFK. But,
my take on this: All of you are full of food processed by a body’s digestive system. No question. Don’t buy it. Has it happened, yep! Is that the standard? Nope!
You can choose not to believe it.
Whatever makes it easier to accept man. College basketball is even worse imo
Prior to enrollment, no
But I personally witnessed a player take cash while he was on campus at the University he attended.
Shot a Gator in Jean Shorts just to watch him die.
by AMFKNole on Jan 31, 2012 12:05 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
you knew Maurice Clarett?
"I guess they have a reputation of being more of a tricky team and not being tough. You hit ‘em in the mouth, and they don’t like it. Other teams that have beat them just hit them in the mouth, so that’s what we started out with.’’ - Nick Moody
Poor Paul's Bucks don't count
Is that place still around?
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-H.L. Mencken
wow..used to hang there in earlty-mid 80s…
Florida IS the state of college football....And Tallahassee is its Capitol!!!!
by Mellocello63 on Jan 31, 2012 4:58 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Da Nile....
Its not just a River in Egypt.
Control the Sunshine State & sooner or later you'll control the country.
I've been told by more than one elite college team recruiters that they have nicknames for the good recruiters.
E Gran’s for example is Eddie “2Grand”. They was during his SEC days. I’m sure the prices are higher now. I know 100% for sure that UF, UM (obiviously), and FSU have paid players. I could even give more detail, but i won’t. It’s part of college football (a business).
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NoleTide!
I take nothing positive from this
statement in the sense that if we get a 5* we paid them… but if we lost we either 1) aren’t a top team or 2) got outbid…
I guess realistically speaking there’s some tomfoolery involved but it’s just hard to accept.
and those players are
either not any good, or they commit before it comes to the point of bargaining. and then theres the 15 guys a year with a conscience that turn down the money anyway. while you can make the argument that those guys are dumb for passing on the money, those are the recruits you really want – the great players with a conscience, who typically come with a great work ethic and do their best to earn the starting spot.
"I guess they have a reputation of being more of a tricky team and not being tough. You hit ‘em in the mouth, and they don’t like it. Other teams that have beat them just hit them in the mouth, so that’s what we started out with.’’ - Nick Moody
irrelevant
if they werent starving before, they arent going to starve after they stop paying to feed and outfit a growing high school football player. people can take money because they want it, no matter how much they have, and it doesnt make it more or less wrong.
"I guess they have a reputation of being more of a tricky team and not being tough. You hit ‘em in the mouth, and they don’t like it. Other teams that have beat them just hit them in the mouth, so that’s what we started out with.’’ - Nick Moody
The stars are getting money in high school
Grow up, real world.
that anyone would tell me about the real world and growing up is hilarious
just because im not cynical and believe the worst is happening doesnt make me naive – it makes me a realist.
"I guess they have a reputation of being more of a tricky team and not being tough. You hit ‘em in the mouth, and they don’t like it. Other teams that have beat them just hit them in the mouth, so that’s what we started out with.’’ - Nick Moody
Accepting what *IS* going on makes you a realist.
As a through-and-through realist, I find your attitude on the subject to be on the more optimistic side.
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you are a cynic, sir, not a realist
if you find yourself not believing there is anything good, it means you are no longer being realistic. there is good and bad in every situation. the pessimist thinks its all going to hell and its hopeless, but the cynic knows its already hell and believes everything is in hell with it.
i realize most good players are smart enough to take the money, but there are some that are even smarter and pick a school that will benefit them in the future, not the one with the biggest bag of money right now. that i realize there are a few intelligent kids (maybe credit really goes to their parents) means i am a realist, not an optimist.
"I guess they have a reputation of being more of a tricky team and not being tough. You hit ‘em in the mouth, and they don’t like it. Other teams that have beat them just hit them in the mouth, so that’s what we started out with.’’ - Nick Moody
Your confusing Cynicism with Timonism
Cynics think humans are capable of greatness and are disappointed/angry with what they have become. Timonists think man is hopelessly stupid and uncaring and not capable of changing.
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-H.L. Mencken
no, not confused
Russo thinks we could be better, but we have all been corrupted for one reason or another (ask him about politics and corporations, but not on here)
"I guess they have a reputation of being more of a tricky team and not being tough. You hit ‘em in the mouth, and they don’t like it. Other teams that have beat them just hit them in the mouth, so that’s what we started out with.’’ - Nick Moody
The 1st part is true, the 2nd part is not.
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you mean that not all of us are corrupted?
"I guess they have a reputation of being more of a tricky team and not being tough. You hit ‘em in the mouth, and they don’t like it. Other teams that have beat them just hit them in the mouth, so that’s what we started out with.’’ - Nick Moody
There are no absolutes in humanity.
No, not everyone is evil and/or corrupted. There are good people left…
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that doesnt make you a realist
i still think you are more cynical than realistic, but oh well.
"I guess they have a reputation of being more of a tricky team and not being tough. You hit ‘em in the mouth, and they don’t like it. Other teams that have beat them just hit them in the mouth, so that’s what we started out with.’’ - Nick Moody
there are ABSOLUTELY no absolutes
My photo appeared in the Nightlife photo collage of the FSView for six weeks in-a-row. That’s who I am.
is that like
“true knowledge exists in knowing that you know nothing”?
ah, So crates
"I guess they have a reputation of being more of a tricky team and not being tough. You hit ‘em in the mouth, and they don’t like it. Other teams that have beat them just hit them in the mouth, so that’s what we started out with.’’ - Nick Moody
Are you absolutely sure about that?
by PeachTreeNole on Feb 1, 2012 7:52 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
There's PLENTY of good. Just not a lot of it where billions of dollars are involved...
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Band of 3!!
I get real tired of these accusations.
If it was ubiquitous a lot more schools
would be going down.
If you know it, damn it, name names.
If you have proof show it.
If you don’t, shame on you for
soiling the sport we love.
Sorry, that’s my honest take on this.
NoleDoc
See ya later gator hater
In a bowl, Seminole!
Is this in iambic pentameter?
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by RollNole5 on Jan 31, 2012 2:03 PM EST up reply actions 5 recs
It's certainly not haiku.
I got laughed at for weeks after my failed Bud Elliott haiku attempt.
'Gentlemen, it is better to have died a small boy than to fumble this football.' John Heisman
I enjoyed the BE haiku.
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You are welcome
At my expense.
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haha
"If you want to understand a society, take a good look at the drugs it uses. And what can this tell you about American culture? Well, look at the drugs we use. Except for pharmaceutical poison, there are essentially only two drugs that Western civilization tolerates: Caffeine from Monday to Friday to energize you enough to make you a productive member of society, and alcohol from Friday to Monday to keep you too stupid to figure out the prison that you are living in."
- Bill Hicks (another dead hero)
No, but I will rec anyone who is willing to post in Rhyme Royal.
…I was about to say I’d give $5, but I’m sure some smart @ss out there would actually do it.
Also, the ubiquity of the situation protects all involved in the nefarious deeds.
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Bingo. Mutually-assured destruction.
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I have news for you, friend: this sport we love is as shady as it gets.
http://www.everydayshouldbesaturday.com/2011/9/1/2377214/gods-away-on-business
>>---l>
If it is true
that some players are paid, bribed and bought on a significant scale then you would think the players paid less would be outraged and a biding war would result. The ones not on the take would raise hell and civil war would erupt on teams everywhere.
If this happened, plenty people would be blowing the whistle on it and we would be smothered by scandal.
Since we aren’t and since I’ve seen nothing to suggest serious people see wide-spread corruption, I am skeptical. It’s easy to throw this stuff out there, but if you think about it, the loose use of these kinds of comments condems a lot of good kids as being corrupt.
I hope it is still ok to offer contrary opinions.
NoleDoc
See ya later gator hater
In a bowl, Seminole!
by Noledock on Jan 31, 2012 4:39 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Thanks SolidNole
Common sense tells me that if a fraction of the corruption offered up as gospel on this board were true, all hell would have long ago broken out. Kids the age of the players aren’t exactly known for being mature or tight lipped.
I don’t doubt that some of this goes on and I DO believe some schools are much worse than the rest but is this mainstream? Hell no! Too many ways for this to blow up to believe it’s routine for thousands of kids. That my friends does not pass the straight face test!
NoleDoc
See ya later gator hater
In a bowl, Seminole!
There have been examples of disgruntled players blowing the whistle, however, most players understand what the score is and realize that only top players get the extra benefits. Also, players have to be VERY disgruntled to completely screw over their teammates and friends.
Not to come off as harsh, but the scenarios you are proposing are much more uninformed and speculative than the ones that people who actually know what occurs during recruiting have put forth.
My photo appeared in the Nightlife photo collage of the FSView for six weeks in-a-row. That’s who I am.
Put aside common sense RollNole5
And I STILL don’t buy this. Maybe I don’t want to believe the world is so totally corrupted because that thought would be too painful. I know this, having been had a career in forensic psychiatry for 30 years; I see the worst of mankind daily! I do not see corruption even in that world anything like what I read about here.
Besides, I WANT to believe in these kids and in the university we all love.
Regardless, let’s enjoy the hell out of tomorrow as Nole brothers and sisters!
NoleDoc
See ya later gator hater
In a bowl, Seminole!
My man, read this amazing piece that DK linked above, Spencer writes beautifully and manages to capture the struggles and emotions of dealing with the paradoxes and conflicts that come with rooting for the sport we love so much. http://www.everydayshouldbesaturday.com/2011/9/1/2377214/gods-away-on-business
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RollNole5
I did read that piece. It was written with amazing talent. I’m coming away from this discussion wi questions and doubts where before I was just skeptical of the corruption claims.
I do appreciate your patience for this very old Nole. ;-)
One overriding thing though. . .
Today the Noles are going to KICK. ASS!!
NoleDoc
See ya later gator hater
In a bowl, Seminole!
So do you know what all your co-workers make?
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by AMFKNole on Jan 31, 2012 5:49 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Nevin Shapiro, Reggie Bush, and Cecil Newton say hi
The problem is that the kids can get in trouble too so telling on a school is telling on yourself.
HYPOTHETICALLY: Why would you assume they are of equal weight?
by Bud Elliott on Jan 31, 2012 11:55 AM EST up reply actions
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Well I'm an economist first
So I believe all else being equal people will make the choice that most benefits them. Typically financial benefits are easiest to see, which is why I work for a salary and not 3 square meals a day and the promise of a roof over my head. Therefore, I assume if a player has decided to take money they won’t take the lower of two amounts EVEN IF they prefer one school to another and instead leverage the school of their choice into at least paying what the higher bidding school is offering (if not more). I also assumr everyone pays using the same denomination of bills.
Shot a Gator in Jean Shorts just to watch him die.
by AMFKNole on Jan 31, 2012 12:04 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
The construct isn’t that of a straight bidding war, though. It’s convoluted in a million different ways depending on the circumstance.
>>---l>
Well yes
But simplified, let’s assume, arguendo, that a prospect is selecting between two schools. He has been a fan of one his entire career and the other he recently began to like. He goes through the process and likes both. Let’s say he even prefers the newer school he hasn’t always been a fan of. Now let’s say at some point the first school sweetens the pot. All else beijg equal he preferred the first school, albeit slightly. But now there are monetary considerations. I have a tough time seeing how “prospect” chooses the school he likes about the same as another but who hasnt upped the ante over the school that has. Therefore to finally win out, I assume the offer is most likely matched or exceeded. Maybe that’s naive on my part but that’s how I always pictured these things going.
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by AMFKNole on Jan 31, 2012 12:14 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Speaking in pure hypotheticals, of course, it’s just so individualized. Pot sweeteners come in different forms, often aren’t conditional upon signing but an attempt to influence with a “nice gesture”, implicit future benefits, etc.
>>---l>
But I mean, woth someone like Goldman
Let’s say its been tight the whole way. Now days before NSD Auburn drops off a suitcase with 50K in it. That’s not a simple incentive. That’s pay for play. What I don’t see at that point how the prospect doesn’t attempt at this point to leverage one against the other.
Shot a Gator in Jean Shorts just to watch him die.
by AMFKNole on Jan 31, 2012 12:41 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
HOSTESSES!
selling sex is far from a novel idea, and its especially effective with high school males
"I guess they have a reputation of being more of a tricky team and not being tough. You hit ‘em in the mouth, and they don’t like it. Other teams that have beat them just hit them in the mouth, so that’s what we started out with.’’ - Nick Moody
Thereby making bags with equal amounts in them weigh the same
That part was meant to be humorous.
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by AMFKNole on Jan 31, 2012 12:08 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
One day a smart recruit is gonna record one of these "pay offs" as it happens
and double it against the school offering or turn them in.
But the realist in me says that if it is a rampant across the landscape as many claim, somebody would get caught eventually, no innuendo or hearsay, but CAUGHT. Red handed. Abscam style.
Is there really that much honor amongst thieves?
"Far better it is to dare mighty things, to win glorious triumphs even though checkered by failure, than to rank those poor spirits who neither enjoy nor suffer much because they live in the gray twilight that knows neither victory nor defeat"
by Blue Horseshoe on Jan 31, 2012 12:14 PM EST up reply actions
This has already happened at least twice.
by Bud Elliott on Jan 31, 2012 12:16 PM EST up reply actions
can you say what school, or which players?
maybe what years?
"I guess they have a reputation of being more of a tricky team and not being tough. You hit ‘em in the mouth, and they don’t like it. Other teams that have beat them just hit them in the mouth, so that’s what we started out with.’’ - Nick Moody
Auburn and Bama turned themselves in during the 80s and 90s iirc
by Bud Elliott on Jan 31, 2012 12:30 PM EST up reply actions
turned themselves in for a recruit playing them?
that sounds like something you keep to yourself, even if you admit you paid them.
also, how the hell is Auburn still allowed to have a football team? they have been in trouble or on probation for something like 30 of the last 35 years, and often for just egregious cheating. at some point, you have to take the license of the guy constantly doing 120 through downtown, no matter how much money he has.
"I guess they have a reputation of being more of a tricky team and not being tough. You hit ‘em in the mouth, and they don’t like it. Other teams that have beat them just hit them in the mouth, so that’s what we started out with.’’ - Nick Moody
now that makes sense
i wonder if everybody is on the nuclear option at this point, i.e. you start talking, i start talking
"I guess they have a reputation of being more of a tricky team and not being tough. You hit ‘em in the mouth, and they don’t like it. Other teams that have beat them just hit them in the mouth, so that’s what we started out with.’’ - Nick Moody
basically, is this the cold war period of recruiting?
if so, that means the breaking point is coming. somebody will win, and it will not likely be the NCAA.
"I guess they have a reputation of being more of a tricky team and not being tough. You hit ‘em in the mouth, and they don’t like it. Other teams that have beat them just hit them in the mouth, so that’s what we started out with.’’ - Nick Moody
Apparently they learned from that mistake
and now fully understand that’s the only way they’ll get caught again.
by Dr.KennethNoisewater on Jan 31, 2012 7:01 PM EST up reply actions
How noble of them.
"If you want to understand a society, take a good look at the drugs it uses. And what can this tell you about American culture? Well, look at the drugs we use. Except for pharmaceutical poison, there are essentially only two drugs that Western civilization tolerates: Caffeine from Monday to Friday to energize you enough to make you a productive member of society, and alcohol from Friday to Monday to keep you too stupid to figure out the prison that you are living in."
- Bill Hicks (another dead hero)
I'll put it in terms I can relate to
There are literally thousands of doctors all over the state of FL raking in dough by running scams and defrauding insurance companies/taking kick backs for over prescribing pain killers to patients they know or assume are selling them for profit. Despite it being everywhere and out of control it’s tough to find/prove and if all these people have convinced themselves what they are doing isn’t wrong, why turn anyone in?
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by AMFKNole on Jan 31, 2012 12:18 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
know thyself
these kids arent dumb, they know what they are doing is wrong. if you are willing to take money you arent supposed to have, what stops you from getting more?
"I guess they have a reputation of being more of a tricky team and not being tough. You hit ‘em in the mouth, and they don’t like it. Other teams that have beat them just hit them in the mouth, so that’s what we started out with.’’ - Nick Moody
So you're sayin. . ..
Florida shouldn’t give medical licenses to Auburn grads?
by FSU95WLU00 on Jan 31, 2012 12:42 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Likely hundreds of these scum not thousands
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Just had a long talk with one of my UF buddies
He’s mad, thinks Boom got played by everyone. Swears all UF insiders are saying Howard to UM is a done deal. They’re out of it for Hamilton. Thinks Agholor is going to USC. Also thinks they’re out of it for JHC. Puts some of our chicken littles in perspective.
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by AMFKNole on Jan 31, 2012 11:44 AM EST via Android app reply actions
I'm seeing all that in other places too
that would make for a VERY happy NSD day.
by CanadianNole on Jan 31, 2012 11:47 AM EST up reply actions
Well...
I’ve heard Howard to UM is done, Hamilton is confident in the new HC at Rutgers, Agholor is in love with USC.
So yeah, I think UF is out of it for all three.
As for JHC, we’ll know where UF stands tonight. He’s going to narrow down his “top 2” like Telvin Smith did last year. Which, have to admit, bodes well. Wonder if Telvin gave him the idea.
Probably right.
I’m convinced we’re getting nothing new tomorrow. We have to wait on Feb 10 for Diggs, and he’s probably sipping Urban Meyer kool aid.
by PullingGuardGator on Jan 31, 2012 12:09 PM EST up reply actions
He should be careful
I hear that stuff cripples you after a few years.
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by AMFKNole on Jan 31, 2012 12:15 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Florida looks to be crashing right now
Really worried about Goldman and Darby, the bag man visited.
Feel better about JHC and Blake should be a go. Oh how I love the final days of recruiting.
sources?
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None other than the rumors
Florida looks bleak on the big guys out there, ever i am shocked they may not land a big fish on signing day.
Goldman had the one parent visit and Bud has made reference to that we may have lost Eddie. Darby I worry just because it is Auburn.
by Burghnole36 on Jan 31, 2012 12:14 PM EST up reply actions
If that's the case
this is the last year I follow recruiting.
by CanadianNole on Jan 31, 2012 12:15 PM EST up reply actions
Where did Bud say that
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by AMFKNole on Jan 31, 2012 12:20 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
yeah I actually recall Bud putting Goldman into his mock today or yesterday
by SimaNole on Jan 31, 2012 12:23 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
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by AMFKNole on Jan 31, 2012 12:26 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
His origional Post
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by Burghnole36 on Jan 31, 2012 12:31 PM EST up reply actions
'Barn burning?
"I guess they have a reputation of being more of a tricky team and not being tough. You hit ‘em in the mouth, and they don’t like it. Other teams that have beat them just hit them in the mouth, so that’s what we started out with.’’ - Nick Moody
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by Burghnole36 on Jan 31, 2012 12:27 PM EST up reply actions
All this is news to me.
Folks not feeling confident in Eddie all of a sudden?
Auburn is becoming my Public Enemy #1. Tired of all their shenanigans with recruiting.
Forget the death penalty. That institution should just be shut down entirely with all the illegal actions they blatantly perform. It’s not just a big middle finger to the NCAA, but it’s a big middle finger to all the universities in the general area.
Not saying we, nor other schools don't do what we can to play ball
but Auburn has probably the most storied history of doing, and doing it on such a large scale. And again, all under the keen eyes of the NCAA. And nothing…NOTHING happens to them that has any lasting effects.
by GermDaveNole on Jan 31, 2012 1:02 PM EST up reply actions
It is like Jeff Cameron said
The speed limit is 75 and everyone is doing 90. It is when someone does 110 or 120 that poeple get pissed. Auburn this year and Clemson last year are doing about 130 each.
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Dan Patrick: "Is Ponder a good name for a quarterback?"
Christian Ponder: "Why? Because you say I overthink things? is that what you’re trying to imply? As crazy as it sounds, my mom’s maiden name is actually SuperBowlWinner. Isn’t that crazy?"
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Not enough to buy the naming rights
Means I still got time.
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by AMFKNole on Jan 31, 2012 1:20 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Is it not enough?
Total cost is something like $15mill isn’t it? A third is quite a lot but I don’t have that link handy that broke down the donation tiers.
Dan Patrick: "Is Ponder a good name for a quarterback?"
Christian Ponder: "Why? Because you say I overthink things? is that what you’re trying to imply? As crazy as it sounds, my mom’s maiden name is actually SuperBowlWinner. Isn’t that crazy?"
DP: "Now is that hyphenated?"
CP7: "No, it’s all one word."
The pamphlet they mailed ne indicated that $7 million was required to name it
If I win the lotto y’all are in for a treat.
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by AMFKNole on Jan 31, 2012 2:25 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Haha, I just looked it up too
Scary how you replied right when I clicked to reply to myself. Anyway here’s the link:
That says $7.5 mill for naming but who knows what’s possibly changed. He’ll have banners all over the place at least, that’s for sure.’
Anyway this is huge news, a $5 million donation for the IPF?! You kidding me?! Show of hands, who else is going to be counting how many practices get rained out this Fall and counting the days until that facility gets finished.
So happy about this!
Dan Patrick: "Is Ponder a good name for a quarterback?"
Christian Ponder: "Why? Because you say I overthink things? is that what you’re trying to imply? As crazy as it sounds, my mom’s maiden name is actually SuperBowlWinner. Isn’t that crazy?"
DP: "Now is that hyphenated?"
CP7: "No, it’s all one word."
Ah hell
Link: http://www.fsuindoorpracticefacility.com/gifts.php
Dan Patrick: "Is Ponder a good name for a quarterback?"
Christian Ponder: "Why? Because you say I overthink things? is that what you’re trying to imply? As crazy as it sounds, my mom’s maiden name is actually SuperBowlWinner. Isn’t that crazy?"
DP: "Now is that hyphenated?"
CP7: "No, it’s all one word."
That is the asking price.
It’s all negotiable.
If I win the lottery
I’d make the donation and name it “The Mickey Andrews Indoor Training Facility”
by StM on Jan 31, 2012 4:35 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Think outside the box
If I’m spending 7 mill, the name will be awesome.
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by AMFKNole on Jan 31, 2012 5:51 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
I don't know, "Mickey Andrews Practice Facility" sounds better than "Awesome Practice Facility"
by TuckNole on Jan 31, 2012 6:02 PM EST up reply actions 5 recs
How bout the" How Not to be Kory Mangum Indoor Practice Facility" ?
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by SeminoleChopping on Jan 31, 2012 6:05 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
They call those facilities Gymborees.
F*cking Korey Mangum.
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by NoleThruandThru on Jan 31, 2012 6:07 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
How bad do you have to suck at football.......for everyone watching to know you wouldn't even be making plays in FLAG football???
He really took being “out of position” to a whole ’nother stratosphere.
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Too bad he always managed to find his way on to the field
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by NoleThruandThru on Jan 31, 2012 6:34 PM EST up reply actions
like Kyler Hall managed to accidentally find his way to the practice field?
"I guess they have a reputation of being more of a tricky team and not being tough. You hit ‘em in the mouth, and they don’t like it. Other teams that have beat them just hit them in the mouth, so that’s what we started out with.’’ - Nick Moody
Seriously, what safeties DIDN'T suck for us in the 00's?
I can only think of two: Pat Watkins and Myron Rolle.
by FSUActuary on Jan 31, 2012 7:30 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
Ditto
Rolle if my memory serves me correctly was slow and took bad angles as well!!
Rolle didn’t get nearly enough credit. The SS position he played under Mickey wasn’t a glamorous one by any means.
>>---l>
this.
Wasn’t a burner but was a sure tackler and most important, didn’t give up TD’s.
by FSUActuary on Jan 31, 2012 7:38 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
He was by no means a bad player
Thought he did a decent job back there. He just wasn’t the playmaker many expected him to be. Big ups to him for bringing some good press to our football program in a time of need, but had Roger Williams or Jamie Robinson (who actually made a few plays on a horrible defense his senior season) been wicked smaht, we’d be talking about them here.
Great guy and great tackler, but...
he definitely gave up a few touchdowns that he shouldn’t have because of the bad angles.
by seminoleballer on Feb 1, 2012 12:08 AM EST up reply actions
Hmmm
I always thought that Rolle was pretty solid in run support (unlike Magnum).
Is the poster known as FSU actually Terry Saban? And why does TN not want you to know?
He was. Solid tackler, technically sound, knew the defense inside & out......just not an elite athlete nor a ballhawk.
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Simple: He would have used him to keep Parks/Moody on the bench.
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Rolle wasn't a playmaker, but was FAR from a bad player.
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by NoleThruandThru on Jan 31, 2012 10:47 PM EST up reply actions
i dont think he was tough enough to sift through the crowd routinely
rover was a perfect spot for him – come in the box occasionally, but not a permanent LB. it allowed him to read and react without fighting off blocks most of the time.
"I guess they have a reputation of being more of a tricky team and not being tough. You hit ‘em in the mouth, and they don’t like it. Other teams that have beat them just hit them in the mouth, so that’s what we started out with.’’ - Nick Moody
Yes, those two would definitely qualify.
by FSUActuary on Jan 31, 2012 7:39 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
Hope and Gibson played at the end of the Dynasty.
Jerome Carter was solid.
Carter was a pretty solid rover for us his JR and SR year.
Don’t remember many impact plays from him though (INTs). I guess we had far more hard-hitting, run support type safeties that were good and not very many ball-hawk, intercept-anything-in-my-vicinity types.
I agree
I think when Mickey’s defense was right the safties were close to the line and not playing zone very much.
Yes they did.
But they still played in the 2000s. ;)
sounds great to me
his money is as green as the next guy’s, and he has a hell of a lot more of it. as long as my man isnt a dangerous criminal or asking for some kind of control over the program, i say bring it on.
"I guess they have a reputation of being more of a tricky team and not being tough. You hit ‘em in the mouth, and they don’t like it. Other teams that have beat them just hit them in the mouth, so that’s what we started out with.’’ - Nick Moody
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not making it in.
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kinda happy about this,
as long as Goldman and shanks are coming. This kid had a full ride to FSU for a year and did not make the effort to get into college, lazy.
School isn't as easy for some folks as it is others.
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Casher showed him how its done
you just know what you have to do and buckle down with any help you can get. unless he was in terrible shape (in which case nobody would have offered), there is no excuse other than he didnt try hard enough.
"I guess they have a reputation of being more of a tricky team and not being tough. You hit ‘em in the mouth, and they don’t like it. Other teams that have beat them just hit them in the mouth, so that’s what we started out with.’’ - Nick Moody
there is no excuse other than he didnt try hard enough.
Thats an awfully large brush you are painting with.
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um, not really
read it again. it is very specific.
"I guess they have a reputation of being more of a tricky team and not being tough. You hit ‘em in the mouth, and they don’t like it. Other teams that have beat them just hit them in the mouth, so that’s what we started out with.’’ - Nick Moody
with any help you can get
I’m guessing this is what you are pointing me to? Valid point, but still very broad statement.
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no
it would be a player that was in decent shape to graduate, but needed a little work (most do). Casher gave up football and his friends for his senior year, took advantage of the help the new school had to get him better grades, and took full advantage of his opportunity.
there have been plenty of other players to come into their senior year with work to do, and they did what they had to do to qualify. were they all really smart but lazy? or did they just buckle down and work really hard to get their grades up?
"I guess they have a reputation of being more of a tricky team and not being tough. You hit ‘em in the mouth, and they don’t like it. Other teams that have beat them just hit them in the mouth, so that’s what we started out with.’’ - Nick Moody
But every situation isn’t comparable, which brings us back to Nattylite’s original post.
School isn’t as easy for some folks as it is others.
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of course
but that isnt an applicable excuse here
"I guess they have a reputation of being more of a tricky team and not being tough. You hit ‘em in the mouth, and they don’t like it. Other teams that have beat them just hit them in the mouth, so that’s what we started out with.’’ - Nick Moody
Aye
some people do not have the aptitude and some do not have the effort. It is rare to have students with both. I see such a large variation in the freshmen classes that I do teach and there are lots of ones on each side.
This may rub some people the wrong way, but
even though school isn’t as easy for some folks as it is others, we are talking about high school in America; it isn’t exactly the most difficult challenge to get through, comparatively (unless you elect to take tougher classes such as AP courses instead of gym, for example). Given that, we would really need to know what his curriculum/classes consisted of before we could say whether he was lazy or there was some other reason why he wasn’t succeeding. Of course, then you have to factor in the possibility of extenuating circumstances (ex. death(s) in the family, having to help support his family, etc.). Truth is we just won’t know and that is why we shouldn’t paint with that broad brush that RollNole5 is referring to. Just my 2 cents…
Goldman and Timmy
I’m still happy with them as the DTs and maybe MEj hopping inside occasionally.
put him over center in the Prowler
"I guess they have a reputation of being more of a tricky team and not being tough. You hit ‘em in the mouth, and they don’t like it. Other teams that have beat them just hit them in the mouth, so that’s what we started out with.’’ - Nick Moody
Did we use the prowler last year?
Man that was a fun formation to watch. For how little we ran it it seemed like it had a high success rate. Pretty much the only bright spot of that miserable 2009 defense.
You should really go back and watch
This is very inaccurate
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by AMFKNole on Jan 31, 2012 2:26 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Not sure Goldman will make it into this class
It’s not like DT is a position of need for FSU though.
I thought we were looking past 2012.
Both those guys are seniors this year
Wasn't McDaniel's injury early enough
that he took medical hardship, thus will be a junior next year.
by Wild@Heart Nole on Jan 31, 2012 2:11 PM EST up reply actions
Had a class after McDaniel last semester
While injured he had this special scooter that positioned his injured limb up.
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Talks about FSU and some of our targets.
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by SimaNole on Jan 31, 2012 1:46 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
VERY SURPRISED to see the blurb about Nelson, I have a lot of coaching connections in Tampa, and FSU was not even a close 3rd a month ago, gonna have to get in touch with them...man...would he be a great Signing day surprise
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Nelson will be going to USC, they are just trying to hype it.
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by SmoothCrimiNole on Jan 31, 2012 11:34 PM EST up reply actions
Final mock class
Hey guys, sorry I haven’t been around too much but work is insane right now. I have enough time to fire off my last mock, here goes:
QB Sean Maguire
QB Jameis Winston
RB Delmarick Pender
WR Marvin Bracy
TE Christo K
OL Dan Glauser
OL Menelik Watson
OL Adam Duckett (GS/sign and place)
DE Mario Edwards
DE Chris Casher
DE Dante Fowler
DT Justin Shanks
DT Dalvon Stuckey (sign and place)
DT Eddie Goldman
LB Markuss Eligwe
LB Reggie Northrup
DB Ron Darby
DB Colin Blake
DB PJ Williams
P Cason Beatty
K Roberto Aguayo (GS- for now)
- I am very worried about Goldman. The Auburn stuff concerns me but I am leaving him in because I hope Odell’s relationship is solid enough to overcome things.
- I am still of the mindset that JHC goes to Georgia. Damn I hope I am wrong!
**Still very good feelings about Northrup :)
**Tracy Howard to Miami!! Crazy. Credit Golden with an awesome job here if it happens.
**Ricardo Louis back to Auburn.
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by NoleThruandThru on Jan 31, 2012 1:50 PM EST reply actions
Very nice
That’s a great class right der.
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Yep, no one should be upset with a class like this
even if FSU misses on some of the remaining targets, it’s a hell of a class considering the needs and low amount of schollies.
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by NoleThruandThru on Jan 31, 2012 2:07 PM EST up reply actions
I know I am spoiled
But I really want Goldman in this class. Even though he isn’t a big need, I like being able to point out that FSU has the best defensive line roster in all of D1 football.
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Me too. It would be a huge middle finger to the SEC to snatch him
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by NoleThruandThru on Jan 31, 2012 2:22 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Start of a movement?
“Just do it, for Nattylite”?
'Gentlemen, it is better to have died a small boy than to fumble this football.' John Heisman
If we miss on Goldman
Getting at least one of Darby or Blake is a must to fill out this class.
Goldman would have been a great addition, but we’re absolutely fine this year and 2013 could see a lot of new talent appearing with NLS, Shanks and McAllister
Perception is the only logical answer
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by AMFKNole on Jan 31, 2012 2:30 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
think Howard bought into
that win games with “Florida” players, helps his best friend in the world is going there too. Ahh to see his face on the first 1/4 full stadium…priceless
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Evidentally you differ from Bud on you Goldman opinion.
Ive been reading above that he is suggesting Goldman is Auburn’s.
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by cerebralfish on Jan 31, 2012 2:10 PM EST up reply actions
That's not what I got.
I read that he is suggesting you can’t ever count Auburn out.
The bagman can always get his man.
'Gentlemen, it is better to have died a small boy than to fumble this football.' John Heisman
Not the way I read it
but I like your translation better, so I’ll go with it.
I suppose since
you know he runs an FSU site and this is the recruiting forum, if he did indeed know that for 100% certainty he would say it, Natty said what I believe Bud was getting at.
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Auburn is a legit player in the GOLDman $weep$take$, which makes CENTS.
see what I did der?
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by NoleThruandThru on Jan 31, 2012 2:22 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Not sure if serious
People don’t pay players in CFB, quit screwing around NT&T
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by AMFKNole on Jan 31, 2012 2:32 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Well I don't like hearing that about Goldman
If he ends up at auburn I hope we can nail those bastages w/ their blatant cheating.
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I just hope we get to play them.
I want to see our guys pound them into the ground, then enjoy the disappointment on their faces.
by seminoleballer on Feb 1, 2012 12:11 AM EST up reply actions
Kwon Alexander will go to LSU apparently
Nice get for Miles.
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by NoleThruandThru on Jan 31, 2012 2:33 PM EST reply actions
Anything that hurts Auburn this recruiting cycle makes me happy.
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by Nattylite on Jan 31, 2012 2:34 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Die trees, Die.
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by RollNole5 on Jan 31, 2012 6:23 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
i wouldnt worry
those hippies are so high, they will never make it off campus
"I guess they have a reputation of being more of a tricky team and not being tough. You hit ‘em in the mouth, and they don’t like it. Other teams that have beat them just hit them in the mouth, so that’s what we started out with.’’ - Nick Moody
um, have you seen the tree? how about the band?
yeah, high hippies.
"I guess they have a reputation of being more of a tricky team and not being tough. You hit ‘em in the mouth, and they don’t like it. Other teams that have beat them just hit them in the mouth, so that’s what we started out with.’’ - Nick Moody
LOL. Yes. I used to be on there campus frequently. Cal is waaay more stereotypical hippie than Stanford
Stanford band actually seems like awkward nerds that find each other amusing while everyone else looks at them crosseyed.
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by RollNole5 on Jan 31, 2012 6:40 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Stanfords band is an insult to everything college football is about
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by AMFKNole on Jan 31, 2012 8:41 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
i know how bad Berkeley is
but nobody of sound mind came up with either of those ideas. Stanford as a whole is full of smart kids, but not all of them…
"I guess they have a reputation of being more of a tricky team and not being tough. You hit ‘em in the mouth, and they don’t like it. Other teams that have beat them just hit them in the mouth, so that’s what we started out with.’’ - Nick Moody
They are unique … As it most of the west coast. And have no understanding of sports in southern society
fair enough
"I guess they have a reputation of being more of a tricky team and not being tough. You hit ‘em in the mouth, and they don’t like it. Other teams that have beat them just hit them in the mouth, so that’s what we started out with.’’ - Nick Moody
No hippies left in the Bay Area
… at least not real hippies. The hippies have been replaced by teckie geeks and hipsters.
That treebro can come at me.
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"I guess they have a reputation of being more of a tricky team and not being tough. You hit ‘em in the mouth, and they don’t like it. Other teams that have beat them just hit them in the mouth, so that’s what we started out with.’’ - Nick Moody
by nole07 on Jan 31, 2012 6:45 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
this is the stupidest thing ive ever laughed at
but i did laugh, so rec’d…
Who do you think Miles called to flip Kwon
HartNole. That’s who.
by Widespread Seminole on Jan 31, 2012 3:02 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Any chance Duckett gets treated like Barron last year?
i.e., offered a grey-shirt on NSD, but then there was attrition (e.g., Stuckey 2012), and he makes it in? Note: this assumes that grades aren’t a problem for Duckett.
Championship!
I think Aguayo would get the normal schollie before Duckett- doubt Duckett has grades
We were all created to be Seminoles. This is why we bleed garnet and piss gold.
by NoleThruandThru on Jan 31, 2012 5:38 PM EST up reply actions
Cool Article
For those of you that have ESPN Insider (or if you get ESPN the Magazine you can read it in there once it comes out) here’s a pretty cool article where they anonymously polled a bunch of the top recruits about a number of topics. Makes for an interesting read.
http://espn.go.com/blog/acc/post/_/id/36060/the-truth-behind-recruiting-and-one-bold-prediction
If your not an insider just go online and find a cheap ESPN subscription (like 7-8$)
that gets you insider for free, just enter the magazine code on the insider website….. send the magazine to your dad (thats what I do)
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Coaching Staff Efforts in Recruiting
Our staff has done one spectacular job on the recruiting trail. I really admire Jimbo of assembling this staff. I think its a great staff, and I hope we dont loose no one, but if we do, wish them nothing but the best. National Signing Day is tomorrow recruits will make their decisions and sign LOI’s, but in my opinion no matter who we sign etc. our Coaching Staff is definately winners in my book. Hats off to each one of them. Go NOLES!
by FSUnolefan on Jan 31, 2012 6:13 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
Yes, yes, YESSS!! Rec
NoleDoc
See ya later gator hater
In a bowl, Seminole!
NSD
Unfortunately I have to work, helping people rehabing in therapy. So I wont check my phone until lunch break around 12:30, but I see that most of committed or uncommitted prospects that has FSU in the running, will make their decisions before noon, except for Darby and L Williams if we are to land one if not both of them. Wish I could be here @ home on the board with you all, but wont be the case. So have fun enjoy NSD may be a big Day for FSU! Definately looking foward to reading all the posts tomorrow eve. I’m hoping to land JHC, Howard, Goldman, Darby, and one more if all possible (Northrup, Blake, L Williams, or Agholor). Have a great NSD NOLE FANS!
You're not calling in sick on NSD?!?? And you call yourself a "fan".....
The only ’Noles allowed to work on NSD and STILL keep their TN-street-cred are Bud Elliott………and porn stars.
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I will be teaching nuclear reactor operators how the control rods work. Trust me when I say that you want me to do this successfully.
That depends.......does Florida fall within the minimum containment radius??
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by RCH on Jan 31, 2012 8:37 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Ahhhh,
RCH, you are a cocky one!
NoleDoc
See ya later gator hater
In a bowl, Seminole!
I see what you did there.
Or at least what I think you were trying to do.
You should have just told her to get a grip.
When ahead never let up. When behind never give up.
It is hard to overestimate how significant the advantage you gain from being underestimated.
by Chief Pit Bull on Feb 1, 2012 12:22 AM EST up reply actions
LOL !!!
Chief, is it hard to keep a grip in the often hairy comings and goings, the ins and outs of signing day? Even with all the jacking around, shoot, this day is the climax of years of recruiting!!
NoleDoc
See ya later gator hater
In a bowl, Seminole!
Kegel the Elf has his own exercises?
thought he just hung out on the shelf
"I guess they have a reputation of being more of a tricky team and not being tough. You hit ‘em in the mouth, and they don’t like it. Other teams that have beat them just hit them in the mouth, so that’s what we started out with.’’ - Nick Moody
He did butt
That was before we dangled playing time in the spread in front of him!
NoleDoc
See ya later gator hater
In a bowl, Seminole!
Thanks, by the way,
for sending those Homers to the fleet…..so I can disqualify and retrain them.
by Dr.KennethNoisewater on Jan 31, 2012 10:05 PM EST up reply actions
No longer my friend.
Civilian world, not A school. You still at NGNN? RMA off the Bush came by here last week to interview.
Yeah, not for much longer
Either lateral transfer to the Civil Engineering Corps or back to Chucktown.
by Dr.KennethNoisewater on Jan 31, 2012 10:38 PM EST up reply actions
email me
We have open positions and you might have some insight for candidates for me.
Sorry to clog up the thread guys.
You have a special place in heaven for what you do.
PT, OT…whatever…not an easy job.
Formerly known as Randall W. Spetman.
How is coach/recruit communication restricted after signing day?
Eligwe is planning on waiting until the 6th to announce. Does the dead period extend past signing day so coaches can’t contact him or could they call on the 4th?
that is a prediction
nothing more, keep that WC crap over there.
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Not all
http://blogs.ajc.com/recruiting/2012/01/31/josh-harvey-clemons-to-narrow-to-two-tonight-says-report/
by newdynastynole on Jan 31, 2012 7:10 PM EST up reply actions
one guys says this and the guy writing it says that
VVVV
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We will know for sure in 30mins
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You know who's book of faces status:
“OK FSU AND UF FANS YOU GUYS HAVE ONE MORE CHANCE TO TELL ME WHY I SHOULD GO TO YOUR SCHOOL.. #FSU 16 OR U.F. #6”
I’m sick of this…..
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JWJ wrote on his wall today
“Bring yo fat ass on n help u s get dis ship” hahahaha
PJ Williams wrote: “Bro you already know what it is FSU lets go!!”
by newdynastynole on Jan 31, 2012 7:37 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
Take a guess
We were all created to be Seminoles. This is why we bleed garnet and piss gold.
by NoleThruandThru on Jan 31, 2012 7:56 PM EST up reply actions
NO
I followed the AJC link above and hit the radio station and it twitters who in Valdosta commits to go.
twitter verse
bust loose any time now
Tomahawk Nation- Great FSU football and English lessons!
no unfortunatly
Tomahawk Nation- Great FSU football and English lessons!
Washingtonpost is reporting according to "sources"
Goldman and Darby will sign with FSU tomorrow
Let’s hope!
not sure
I dont follow their recruiting information on a regular basis.
by newdynastynole on Jan 31, 2012 7:55 PM EST up reply actions
This appears to be a summary of the dominant headlines' recent trends
and not necessarily of the newly emerging threat posed by Auburn. It appears the article is for the casual fan and not those wanting up to the minute info.
They read our mocks :)
We were all created to be Seminoles. This is why we bleed garnet and piss gold.
by NoleThruandThru on Jan 31, 2012 7:56 PM EST up reply actions
What’s funny is the radio show JHC is announcing on is a FSU broadcaster.
https://twitter.com/#!/TheVikingVoice
wrong order...
thevikingvoice @TheVikingVoice Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
Felt good w UF coaches. Now to FSU
Seriously...
…I can’t believe I’ve been sitting at my computer for this… About 30 minutes ago I almost turned my PC off to just wait, lol. Wish I had facepalm
LMAO
Troll so hard, JHC. I salute you.
>>---l>
by DKfromVA on Jan 31, 2012 8:03 PM EST reply actions 5 recs
Troll so hard, motha$%&#@* wanna find me...
Control the Sunshine State & sooner or later you'll control the country.
lol so awsome
Tomahawk Nation- Great FSU football and English lessons!
heard some rumor that blake may have committed to FSU
no real backing on this though…still rumor. I’ll update if I hear more.
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He is not a silent from what I know
He should be committing to FSU tomorrow
We were all created to be Seminoles. This is why we bleed garnet and piss gold.
by NoleThruandThru on Jan 31, 2012 10:49 PM EST up reply actions
He actually did...
commit to Rutgers…wow
by Buddy Reynolds on Jan 31, 2012 8:47 PM EST up reply actions
RE-commit to Rutgers. Why the surprise?
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What do you mean...
…why the surprise?…I don’t know…maybe because Rutgers isn’t a giant-slayer team…for starters…
by Buddy Reynolds on Jan 31, 2012 8:50 PM EST up reply actions
In all fairness
They did offer him a chance to play offense when he wouldn’t have had that option with us. Not much you can really do at that point. As an aside he would have been better off playing defense
by westcoastnolefan on Feb 1, 2012 2:20 AM EST up reply actions
This isn't the same Rutgers that was recruiting me in '99...
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Yes it is.
/nole07’d
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no it isnt
/actual nole07’d
"I guess they have a reputation of being more of a tricky team and not being tough. You hit ‘em in the mouth, and they don’t like it. Other teams that have beat them just hit them in the mouth, so that’s what we started out with.’’ - Nick Moody
Markuss Eligwe- "FSU needs me more than I need them." Wow
Is he going to wait and see if we get JHC and Northrup ?
If God told me to root for the Gators, I'd tell him to go to hell.
This is worse than immature if the guy was serious
I’m sure the coaches will get to the bottom of it very quickly. I can’t imagine them wanting a kid with that attitude.
Yes, they can. #ThatsAGoodThing
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Probably a response to some Auburn troll posing as an FSU fan.
You never know what’s going on behind the scenes.
Anyway, the Rutgers football forums......
…are smoking right now…biggest recruit (they say) in Rutgers history.
by Buddy Reynolds on Jan 31, 2012 8:57 PM EST up reply actions
hahahahahaha
This dude has got to be joking if he wants to go be usc’s little brother then let him go great player but no good enought to be makin crazy statements like that
by TheRenegade29 on Jan 31, 2012 9:05 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Stay classy, Mr. Eligwe.
I don’t put much stock into it as this type of behavior has not occurred with him until recently.
Besides, he does not believe that statement even if he meant it.
by FSUActuary on Jan 31, 2012 9:33 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
This quote is taken out of context. He first said fsu needs me and i need them. Then he comically qualified it by saying maybe fsu needs him more. Eligwe is all nole IMO.
hope this is true, and it probably is.
Kid seems all Nole and seems like a good guy on top of it.
People are getting the pre-NSD jitters.
CJF says to young, naive Marcuss
My back up plan is Wilder than you can imagine, son.
by Dr.KennethNoisewater on Jan 31, 2012 10:09 PM EST up reply actions 7 recs
Somewhere, a little kid just said "BLOOM"!!!
Control the Sunshine State & sooner or later you'll control the country.
BAAAAAAAM
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Rec!
Wouldn’t the “Wilder plan” be an outside chance anyway?
I have always saw him as more of an OLB, than an ILB, but either is a better fit for him than RB for sure. IMHO.
When ahead never let up. When behind never give up.
It is hard to overestimate how significant the advantage you gain from being underestimated.
by Chief Pit Bull on Feb 1, 2012 2:06 AM EST up reply actions
I wonder if it was really Eligwe who typed that
We were all created to be Seminoles. This is why we bleed garnet and piss gold.
by NoleThruandThru on Jan 31, 2012 10:51 PM EST up reply actions
I don’t know if I want a guy on our team that doesn’t have the character to password protect his phone.
My photo appeared in the Nightlife photo collage of the FSView for six weeks in-a-row. That’s who I am.
wow, well played
i had totally forgotten about that little incident at school
"I guess they have a reputation of being more of a tricky team and not being tough. You hit ‘em in the mouth, and they don’t like it. Other teams that have beat them just hit them in the mouth, so that’s what we started out with.’’ - Nick Moody
and you are immune to venom?
thats good, because there will be plenty toward the kids we dont get tomorrow. i may have to step out of the ring from time to time, but you will be able to hang for 10 rounds unscathed.
too far?
"I guess they have a reputation of being more of a tricky team and not being tough. You hit ‘em in the mouth, and they don’t like it. Other teams that have beat them just hit them in the mouth, so that’s what we started out with.’’ - Nick Moody
Ease off of Bobby Hart....we have a special connection. I broke the news of Matias signing to him.
I pre-empted your TSG with facts, son!!!
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Didn't someone get a hold of his phone at the Army All American Game and post some crazy stuff then also.
There could be a pattern of this kid letting his phone get into the wrong hands.
When ahead never let up. When behind never give up.
It is hard to overestimate how significant the advantage you gain from being underestimated.
by Chief Pit Bull on Feb 1, 2012 2:13 AM EST up reply actions
I thought he was one of our more solid commits.
I was also under the impression he was supposed to be a very mature young man, and was trying to get other kids to come to FSU too. This doesn’t sound like something someone like that would say. I also can’t see with our depth chart why he would be scared off be the signing of JHC, and R.Northrup; besides, they don’t even play the same position, they are OLBs, and he is a MLB.
His supposed comment of “FSU needs me more than I need them.”, while a disrespectful thing to say, is probably true. If it is true, and we need him so bad, why would he be scared off by anyone we sign?
I am going to give him the benefit of the doubt on this for now, because the whole comment doesn’t make any sense. So I will wait before I render my judgment on the issue.
How sure are we he really said this anyway?
When ahead never let up. When behind never give up.
It is hard to overestimate how significant the advantage you gain from being underestimated.
by Chief Pit Bull on Feb 1, 2012 1:42 AM EST up reply actions
MEJ
Weighs 300lbs. Isn’t this a bit big for a DE? Would we slim him down, would he switch to DT, or could he really play at this weight?
Roses are red, Violets are blue, If it wears orange, Kill it.
Interesting.
I recall the article about Jenkins where the average NFL DE is 260-270lbs and thought even 290lbs would be a bit heavy. Then again I can’t imagine many tackles surviving 290lbs of pissed off Seminole.
Roses are red, Violets are blue, If it wears orange, Kill it.
you are referring to Jenkins correct?
Roses are red, Violets are blue, If it wears orange, Kill it.
I would think if somehow Jenkins ends up in a 3-4 in the Pros, it will be at LB.
Kind of like Peter Boulware.
When ahead never let up. When behind never give up.
It is hard to overestimate how significant the advantage you gain from being underestimated.
by Chief Pit Bull on Feb 1, 2012 2:45 AM EST up reply actions
I have some lots for sale in the Keys.
Call JWJ-if-youbuyin
Will there be an "official signing day thread" for me to stay locked into with all the latest information from fellow Noles?
Or is this thread still going to be open? Just wondering where everyone will be posting. Lots of good discussion last year. Want to be part of it again.
Need an over/under on bannings for disallowed extraneous content clogging up the threads.
Could be an epic day for FrankD.
Wasn't talking about your comment being extraneous.
Was talking about what a madhouse the signing day thread is. Especially whenever the bagman cometh.
We will have the CoverItLite like last year. Select comments will be added.
salukinole will be moderating it in the first half, and I’ll do the latter half (the better half).
I won’t close this thread.
Eddie Goldman, Ronald Darby, Colin Blake, Reggie Northrup please
Nobody is going to close this thread!
We’re riding this baby all the way to Mexico!
For every complex problem there is an answer that is clear, simple, and wrong.
-H.L. Mencken
What's the over/under for comments?
I will start with 2200. Can one thread handle that many comments?
With how many guys we are still in play for, I think it will go over that.
Tomahawk Nation will single handedly cause all the Internets in the whole wide world to come to a crashing halt because of the volume of comments made on this Recruiting Thread. Y2K will have nothing on 2012Signing Day.
When ahead never let up. When behind never give up.
It is hard to overestimate how significant the advantage you gain from being underestimated.
by Chief Pit Bull on Feb 1, 2012 3:04 AM EST up reply actions
Anyone know about this funny/joking thing Reggie is doing tomorrow for signing day?
worries me…. What is up with these kids?
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I would be
We were all created to be Seminoles. This is why we bleed garnet and piss gold.
by NoleThruandThru on Jan 31, 2012 11:59 PM EST up reply actions
I do too
We were all created to be Seminoles. This is why we bleed garnet and piss gold.
by NoleThruandThru on Jan 31, 2012 10:50 PM EST up reply actions
A very impressive pull if so.
Granted that UM always had a lot in their favor to land him…but still surprised. They went toe to toe in a dogfight and won?
Announcement Times
Airing on ESPNU
DE Mario Edwards (No. 1 in ESPNU 150): 9:05 a.m.
OLB Josh Harvey-Clemons (No. 17): 9:15 a.m.
CB Tracy Howard (No. 18): 9:35 a.m.
DT Eddie Goldman (No. 10): 10:05 a.m.
WR Nelson Agholor (No. 47): 12:05 p.m.
OT Andrus Peat (No. 9): 1:35 p.m.
CB Ronald Darby (No. 38) 2:30 p.m.
DE Dante Fowler Jr. (No. 71): 10 a.m.
DT Leonard Williams (No. 50): 11 a.m.
ATH Ricardo Louis (No. 21): 1 p.m.
by reid-the-manuel on Jan 31, 2012 10:40 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
L.Williams to announce after D.Fowler. That's a good thing. Yes?
Maybe we can get them both. I REALLY want Williams to be a Nole, I think he is going to be something special.
Where will D.Fowler, L.Williams, and R.Louis be announcing?
When ahead never let up. When behind never give up.
It is hard to overestimate how significant the advantage you gain from being underestimated.
by Chief Pit Bull on Feb 1, 2012 3:52 AM EST up reply actions
his twitter
"I guess they have a reputation of being more of a tricky team and not being tough. You hit ‘em in the mouth, and they don’t like it. Other teams that have beat them just hit them in the mouth, so that’s what we started out with.’’ - Nick Moody
his twitter
"I guess they have a reputation of being more of a tricky team and not being tough. You hit ‘em in the mouth, and they don’t like it. Other teams that have beat them just hit them in the mouth, so that’s what we started out with.’’ - Nick Moody
at 11am
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by newdynastynole on Feb 1, 2012 8:50 AM EST up reply actions
I haven't been keeping up with them, but
are we at least going to kick Clemson’s A$$ in recruiting tomorrow?
For every complex problem there is an answer that is clear, simple, and wrong.
-H.L. Mencken
Dalvon Stuckey will sign with Fsu tomorrow, he will not sign with juco team per his high school coach
He apparently is waiting on test scores that come out in a couple of weeks then will decide which route to take.
it is only on TN that you
need a name like gatorhater5. I can only assume Gatorhater1-4 are already taken.
by nolesdude on Jan 31, 2012 11:51 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
Maybe it was a she.
If so, I am half way to in love with her already.
When ahead never let up. When behind never give up.
It is hard to overestimate how significant the advantage you gain from being underestimated.
by Chief Pit Bull on Feb 1, 2012 4:36 AM EST up reply actions
Auburn fans on the Rivals Main Board
Are saying that Goldman informed the AU coaching staff that he will committ to FSU tomorrow.
#justsignbaby
by Widespread Seminole on Jan 31, 2012 11:33 PM EST via mobile reply actions 3 recs
the bag man cometh
and the bag man taketh the bag away with his tail between his legs. maybe meeting with only 1 parent (and not mom) should have been your first clue that it was a bad idea.
"I guess they have a reputation of being more of a tricky team and not being tough. You hit ‘em in the mouth, and they don’t like it. Other teams that have beat them just hit them in the mouth, so that’s what we started out with.’’ - Nick Moody
Apparently Lemonier did the same thing two years ago.
Just saying.
I think Eddie is a Nole, but who the hell can wade through all the rumors the day before NSD?
Just wanted to say THANK YOU !
This is my first and most likly last post. I just wanted to say thanks for all the great insight and info. I have been reading the threads for the last few weeks. It has been fun and very informative. I dont post because I live in New York and have no info to share with you. So Thanks for the great Info and GO NOLES !!!
by Bizkit34 on Jan 31, 2012 11:33 PM EST reply actions 4 recs
I have no inside info and I still post. Share your opinions. Comment on things you feel you could add something to. Ask questions. Take what HartNole did, do a 540 and do that.
My photo appeared in the Nightlife photo collage of the FSView for six weeks in-a-row. That’s who I am.
by RollNole5 on Jan 31, 2012 11:39 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Rec'd
But u have insight and patience.
;-)
NoleDoc
See ya later gator hater
In a bowl, Seminole!
Yes
Thanks to everyone at TN! Could not make it through recruiting season without you. Hope CJF remembered to put paper in the fax machine.
Keep posting man!!
We were all created to be Seminoles. This is why we bleed garnet and piss gold.
by NoleThruandThru on Feb 1, 2012 12:00 AM EST up reply actions
Come on man. With a name like Bizkit34, I bet you have a great senses of humors.?!,%#
It won’t be your last post, I will bet you. It is addicting, and there is no way to get away from it. I look forward to seeing you around the threads.
And yes GO NOLES!!!!
When ahead never let up. When behind never give up.
It is hard to overestimate how significant the advantage you gain from being underestimated.
by Chief Pit Bull on Feb 1, 2012 5:05 AM EST up reply actions
Tomorrow is our holiday fellas!
Cheers to a great recruiting season and hopefully we are all happy campers after tomorrow!
Lets hope that we can continue this success into the 2012 football season and continue our roll on the recruiting trail.
Regardless of who signs where lets try to remain classy and not harass these high school recruits through social media or gas stations!
Stuckey
Saw him play a couple of times. needs work, but could develop. worried though third attempt at test scores….
Just saw on ESPN..
“Josh Clemons will decide between UF and UGA”
by Seminol3 on Feb 1, 2012 1:18 AM EST via mobile reply actions
Link?
He said on a radio show 4 hours ago that he wasn’t going to narrow down to two before his announcement. He said he’s still considering FSU, UF, UGA, and UM.
DadGummit.
by KnoxvilleNole on Feb 1, 2012 1:24 AM EST up reply actions
It wasn't breaking news, sorry I made it seem that way
They just advertised his decision tomorrow as a preview for their NSD show and only listed those two schools.
by Seminol3 on Feb 1, 2012 1:30 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
ESPN is all about the SEC
They have no idea what they’re talking about. JHC may not be a Nole tomorrow, but ESPN is more concerned about catering to their SEC buddies. There will be a G&G hat on that table.
Happy signing day
the calm before the storm
by atlnolefan on Feb 1, 2012 3:32 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
Big Day!!!
We’re going to pick up so BIG names. Goldman, Darby, and Blake are definite. I like Northrup and I’m calling JHC as well. If we get those 5 and manage not to lose anyone, my head will explode.
If you haven't got your health...
my head will explode
Dogs bark in the night but the caravan moves on.
My finale Mock Class.
We keep everyone we have committed, and sign.
E.Goldman
R.Darby
C.Blake
J.Harvey-Clemons
L.Williams
R.Louis
R.Northrup
A.Ducket (GS)
D.Stuckey (sign & place)
R.Aguayo (GS)
This is about the best case scenario, without any really, REALLY BIG shockers. The biggest shocker would be that we got everyone that we had a reasonable shot at getting, without loosing anyone. That in it’s self would be a shocker.
I think we have an outside shot at T. Howard, and an even more outside shot at N.Agholor.
I know my Mock Class is very optimistic, but I know it is one that we all hope comes together. Well all of us except maybe ♥nole.
When ahead never let up. When behind never give up.
It is hard to overestimate how significant the advantage you gain from being underestimated.
LETS DO THIS
LLLLLEEEEEROOOOOOOOYYYYYYY JENKINNNNNSSSSSS
by reid-the-manuel on Feb 1, 2012 6:38 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
Where online is the best place to listen to FSU-centric signing day coverage
I am overseas w/o access to ESPN’s televised coverage.
bill king 247 radio
he has an app and online streaming for his sirius radio show. I think the site is billisking.com
by atlnolefan on Feb 1, 2012 7:09 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
Going to the hospital!!
Go Noles!!!!!
NoleDoc
See ya later gator hater
In a bowl, Seminole!
Thanks
Thanks to all for the information on this post. I will be working all day but this is the site I will be checking because of the great folks posting the facts.
Any letters confirmed yet?
word starting to leak out that Fowler will flip
Surprise, surprise. There is no way anyone could predict this story come NSD, he seemed to be so anti-Gata
by nole your enemy on Feb 1, 2012 8:03 AM EST via iPhone app reply actions
Indeed
not like we haven’t been embarrassed on national tv before, but here we go again. Suprised the staff didn’t pick this up, saying Williams to the Gates as well, talking about two giant ass whiffs.
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hearing this too.
man, if that happens, we really got punked. Not that we didn’t know it could happen, but damn.
He's been an embarrassment during the whole process
That pretty much epitomizes the Gates, if you ask me.
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by AMFKNole on Feb 1, 2012 8:40 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
Look like FSU is gonna have a #1 enemy for the next 4 years
I always had a bad feeling with Fowler
Bud said in the chat
that he thinks it has. Have read conflicting reports on where he is headed → some say AU vs UF some say USCw vs UF (either way looks like UF has the lead).
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if he commits to FSU or UF
one thing is for sure, the kid is a headcase and will be a pain in the ass for some coaches(just like he was in high school)
Seen it on twitter and headlines in Niles 247.
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I’ve covered Dante Fowler all year and wish him the absolute best. Rly not a bad kid. He is headed to Gainesville and will do well ther
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by newdynastynole on Feb 1, 2012 8:56 AM EST up reply actions
I disagree
Fowler is a better player in an area of higher need
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by newdynastynole on Feb 1, 2012 9:00 AM EST up reply actions
Fowler is a 5 star on some, high 4 on others
Northrup is a low-mid 4 star
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by newdynastynole on Feb 1, 2012 9:03 AM EST up reply actions
I guess technically in rankings?
In terms of impact on a field, I think us losing Fowler is huge
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by newdynastynole on Feb 1, 2012 9:06 AM EST up reply actions
anyway, there's always one big NSD disappointment.
Hopefully Fowler is the only one. Give me Goldman, Darby, and I am more than happy.
drop some
But FSU can still land some other 5 stars. Goldman and Darby
by nole your enemy on Feb 1, 2012 9:16 AM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
Wait....................WHAT??
Rated higher, yes (5* vs 4*).
FSU neds LB’s a LOT more then it needs DE’s.
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I disagree
We will probably lose our 2 starting DE after this year. Then we have Hicks, Stevens and Newberry? A lot of unproven variables right there. I think DE was a much bigger need in this class. Next year? that’s a different story
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by newdynastynole on Feb 1, 2012 11:13 AM EST up reply actions
MEJ & Casher will start in 2013. Still have Williams to decide & the #1 recruit in the nation next year.
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We can still only play two DEs on any given play.
And there’s more DEs to recruit next season. And there’s Tank, whose only a junior, but I guess he could leave, too.
He will be a senior next year so will be gone in 2013
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by newdynastynole on Feb 1, 2012 7:05 PM EST up reply actions
Marvin Bracy
His LOI is in. Came in so fast the fax shot across the room. :)
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MEJr
said he signed and faxed his LOI
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JHC about to announce
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for UGA
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by newdynastynole on Feb 1, 2012 9:17 AM EST up reply actions
yep,
was worried about UF the last couple of weeks. Disappointed not a Nole, but happy not a Gator.
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I will answer after Fowler officially announces
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by newdynastynole on Feb 1, 2012 9:22 AM EST up reply actions
I'd say UF
Sure, we both missed on JHC, but most believed it to be a 2 team battle between UGA/UF for awhile. I think they had more invested in him. Plus flipping Northrup from the Canes is always a plus.
DadGummit.
by KnoxvilleNole on Feb 1, 2012 9:24 AM EST up reply actions
Have the gates been banking on Howard for a long time? Like we were on Fowler?
Just wondering how much the loss of Howard to Miami would sting for the gators.
I love making fun of the Canes, but you gotta tip your hat to them if they get Howard.
Gates definitely thought he was coming as of a couple weeks ago. After he went to visit Miami though, people started singing a different tune.
Miami just needs to stay good enough that if kids don’t go to FSU they can go there instead of UF
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keep in mind, both will sign top 5 classes.
Control the Sunshine State & sooner or later you'll control the country.
REALLY happy with this out of state pick up. REALLY happy
by FSU on Feb 1, 2012 9:46 AM EST up reply actions
we keep fowler
lets not panic he’ll be a seminole
I am remaining cautiously optimistic, too
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by newdynastynole on Feb 1, 2012 9:45 AM EST up reply actions
not quite
A, 2, D
but not bad
:)
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Colin Blake
Originally from England. I never knew this. I feel like we are setting up a farm system in Europe.
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Howard is a cane
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Yeah I am happier that he didnt go to UF. Plus, we can still get Darby.
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by newdynastynole on Feb 1, 2012 9:53 AM EST up reply actions
Give Golden credit,
talk about making lemons into lemonade.
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lol opportunity greater in Miami?
Since when is being sanctioned a greater opportunity?
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I love how Howard picks education but says he may only be there for 3-4 years
I guess they Miami sold them on that transition to the NFL
Not sure how any top recruit picks a school that will never play in a bowl game
NCAA will slap the crap out of the U.
Yessssss
woulda been more worried about Howard at UF than UM…
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Jimbo Fisher!
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and so is satan.
not a fan.
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by JustLikeYouOnlyPrettier on Feb 1, 2012 11:04 AM EST up reply actions
Ladies.
Tiger Woods was good at what he did. Where does character enter in for you? You are what your actions show you to be when those looking on have nothing else to go on. Look at his decision with Miami, look at how he expresses himself.
One is a douche, the other isnt
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by Blue Horseshoe on Feb 1, 2012 3:27 PM EST up reply actions
Character definitely plays a part. However, when you’re just going off the job he does, and actually, what he’s done for college football, I heart Saban, too.
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by JustLikeYouOnlyPrettier on Feb 1, 2012 11:14 AM EST up reply actions
You might feel differently after seeing good he’s done post tornado in AL.
He never should of went to NFL. I think he knows that now and was blessed to have Dolphins owner let him go.
He sure kicked butt at MSU (beat Florida in the Citrus bowl with Plax, I think) and LSU. I did see him smile once. He has been steady in his messages over the past couple of years or so. I give him these things. My distaste for him has subsided quite a bit (you’ve worn me down to admitting that); he’s no Lane Kiffen. Then again, he’s no Bob Stoops or Mark Richt. I will give you ambivalence at best. So you “heart” him like, say, oh, Jimbo?
I’m under no illusion that Saban is any more “evil” than any other coach is or would be. In fact, I think Tressel is more loathsome than Saban.
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by JustLikeYouOnlyPrettier on Feb 1, 2012 11:18 AM EST up reply actions
that's because he wears glasses and a sweater vest.
"Defensive lineman and its depth separates southern football from rest of the country".
by PeachTreeNole on Feb 1, 2012 5:41 PM EST up reply actions
That's because he's your husband. You're kinda legally required to.
LOL. I heart Saban.
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Me too
I love that Daniel Tosh rips him every random chance he gets
#Toshwenttohighschoolwithme
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From an NFL standpoint i hear ya..
But love him or hate him hes the best college coach of his era.
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I did for like, 10 minutes to take my kid to school.
Now its boxers, a ’Noles shirt & a huge cup of coffee.#whatsproductive??#priorities
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Fowler is scheduled to announce around this time isnt he?
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Suck it Auburn suck it hard
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Goldman is a Nole!!!!
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did he explain his reasoning?
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by newdynastynole on Feb 1, 2012 10:07 AM EST up reply actions
Yes we have a lot of EGO's
But we have Quality not Quantity this Signing Day so it should be easy to manage. And we have players to fill in spots where we have needs or will have needs in the near future!
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Bud's tweet.
TomahawkNation Florida State now has commitments from the #1 defensive end, the #1 defensive tackle, and the #3 defensive end.
by arrdub on Feb 1, 2012 10:15 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
Now lets get #1 OLB and #1 QB along with the 2 fastest players in the country
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by newdynastynole on Feb 1, 2012 10:17 AM EST up reply actions
We focus
So much on Defense, which is great! But could you imagine if we spent this much energy on our offensive line this year. We are bringing a #1 QB. A good RB. But what about our offensive line?
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We took 9 last year, not that big of a deal. Got Watson and Glauser this year that are physically ready
I am just worried because it seems like that is our weakest link. That could keep us from winning a championship. Or maybe I just put to much into this years offensive line.
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can someone point me to or inform me
of the upcoming announcement schedule?
from above
Announcement Times
Airing on ESPNU
DE Mario Edwards (No. 1 in ESPNU 150): 9:05 a.m.
OLB Josh Harvey-Clemons (No. 17): 9:15 a.m.
CB Tracy Howard (No. 18): 9:35 a.m.
DT Eddie Goldman (No. 10): 10:05 a.m.
WR Nelson Agholor (No. 47): 12:05 p.m.
OT Andrus Peat (No. 9): 1:35 p.m.
CB Ronald Darby (No. 38) 2:30 p.m.
DE Dante Fowler Jr. (No. 71): 10 a.m.
DT Leonard Williams (No. 50): 11 a.m.
ATH Ricardo Louis (No. 21): 1 p.m.
Fowler flips
http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=espn:7526927
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I don’t want to get into character issues. Maybe it just wasn’t what he wanted out of a school.
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by JustLikeYouOnlyPrettier on Feb 1, 2012 10:31 AM EST up reply actions
Then why wait till the last possible moment to switch
He intentionally f’d us. That’s sh*t character.
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by AMFKNole on Feb 1, 2012 10:35 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
Yep, when ESPN interviewed Jimbo,he seemed like..
At least for the most part, he knew what would happen today.
Control the Sunshine State & sooner or later you'll control the country.
Yep. You create some ‘wiggle room’ just in case you get more (JHC for example) but the best coaching staffs pretty much have their work done and its just waiting on the faxes to be sure. Example, Bama’s not even really thinking about this class – they move on quickly, like sharks. FSU is a year away from that
Are we f’ed, though? No. I have confidence that Jimbo and Co knew the game before it got to this point.
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by JustLikeYouOnlyPrettier on Feb 1, 2012 10:37 AM EST up reply actions
Exactly. Our coaching staff isn’t a bunch of n00bs. They’ve seen kids like this before. Now they have room to work with.
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by JustLikeYouOnlyPrettier on Feb 1, 2012 10:41 AM EST up reply actions
Okay, process-oriented
He attempted to F us. That we were prepared for it and perhaps replace him in 15 minutes doesn’t negate his actions.
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by AMFKNole on Feb 1, 2012 10:48 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
Right. So, why give him more attention or time than is warranted?
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by JustLikeYouOnlyPrettier on Feb 1, 2012 10:49 AM EST up reply actions
I'm simply saying the kid's got a lot of growing up to do
Can’t wait to see him put on his arse 4 consecutive Novembers.
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by AMFKNole on Feb 1, 2012 10:50 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
Agreed.
I don’t wish them ill. I want them to see what they could have been.
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by JustLikeYouOnlyPrettier on Feb 1, 2012 10:52 AM EST up reply actions
Makes FSU more attractive to Nkimdiche (sp?) also....
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by flash_kiley on Feb 1, 2012 10:30 AM EST via Android app up reply actions 1 recs
what? Why?
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by JustLikeYouOnlyPrettier on Feb 1, 2012 10:27 AM EST up reply actions
I’ve been here. Tried the chat thing, but I think it’s the same five guys on there. Ha.
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by JustLikeYouOnlyPrettier on Feb 1, 2012 10:30 AM EST up reply actions
Fowler is a tool
Would have been great to get him but his attitude is similar to a tool. Him and R Powell will be a great presence in the locker room
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I didn't even see
this on tv, so I think ESPN is fed up with him.
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This should be on the bulletin board with Elam and Fowler's pictures on it.......
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by Nole Resurrected on Feb 1, 2012 10:53 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
ESPN said something I thought was very applicable
After Goldman committed and before Fowler committed to Florida. You can sign all of these good guys, but they have to play together with their personalities. Personally, with all of the drama and me-me behavior displayed by Fowler during the process, I am glad he decided to go elsewhere. The guys is very very talented, but I was always concerned with how his attitude might affect the chemistry of the team.
Concilation for Fowler?
Glauser posts that the best commitment will happen at 11am. Leonard Williams is announcing at 11am. Glauser was right about Watson.
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Eligwe announces at 11
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by newdynastynole on Feb 1, 2012 10:37 AM EST up reply actions
recruits=attention whores
sorry, truth hurts.
I think it was less about attention and more about making fun of people for being so obsessively all over what Fowler was doing
on scale of 1-10 how confident are u that he signs with us?
and if he does, how does that help with the recruitment of his african brother NA?
pretty confident. I was under the indication that staff pretty much knows, knew who they were getting with one potential surprise.
Has that surprise gone yet, or is that at 11?
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by AMFKNole on Feb 1, 2012 10:49 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
I have no idea. I assumed it was JHC. But dont know. I do know staff anticipated needing wiggle room.
Im randomly saying Nelson Agholor.
Throwing it out there and seeing if it sticks. No real info except tweets between him and Shaw.
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by zewhitedevil on Feb 1, 2012 10:55 AM EST up reply actions
agreed
Its been looking good for NA for a couple of weeks now
"Recruiting is like shaving. You better do it everyday or you will look like a bum"
Since florida took Andrades last minute we can assume
they are not getting Agholor and know it,
What is the over/under
on followers he loses after he announces?
This just in....
OU’s coach is a hermit
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ESPN Article on Goldman
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He actually chose FSU over Bama, not Auburn
Yet despite Florida State’s persistent presence in Goldman’s recruitment, Alabama made a strong push. Goldman said he was planning on signing with the Crimson Tide as late as last week.
“It was pretty close,” the nation’s top defensive tackle said. “I thought I was going to Alabama … I thought about it hard.”
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by newdynastynole on Feb 1, 2012 10:42 AM EST up reply actions
As you should be superfreak(sig line)
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This was a Bama fans take on the Goldman signing over at GON.com.......
He would have been the “icing on the cake” but he’s liable to get more playing time as a freshman at FSU
Apparently, he doesn’t know about our DLine. I can’t wait until these SEC schmucks see what we roll out next year.
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Doesn't make that not true
He very well could play especially if JMac isn’t fully healed.
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by AMFKNole on Feb 1, 2012 10:50 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
Urban Meyer
I wonder what the GayTurds are saying now that guy is back on tv stealing their recruits in the near future.
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Track records suggests he's kinda wished ill on hiimself.
Can’t believe pressure in Columbus will be anything less than Gainesville.
I think he learned exactly what he did wrong. Say what you will about “retiring” … there are a lot of people who will tell you he was essentially fired.
Like Jeremy Foley
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I wish ill upon him. He should have been learning about how to be a better father than about wrinkles to add to his offense and scouting the B1G
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I can't help but wonder what Shannon is really thinking while they discuss the job Golden is doing.
He’s doing a better job with sanctions looming than marble mouth did with free reign.
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by Nole Resurrected on Feb 1, 2012 10:42 AM EST reply actions
He’s thinking about his next opportunity to coach some where is what he’s thinking. Business is business. He knows that.
Shannon was a very good DC
He should just stick with that.
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^ This.
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by Nole Resurrected on Feb 1, 2012 10:45 AM EST up reply actions
Just like Steele should've stuck with coaching 'backers
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Marble Mouth had more than "free reign".
Wasn’t he the one that was in charge at Miami, when all the crap was going on, that has brought about all the trouble that is coming? It must be uncomfortable for him, it would be for me.
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And now ESPN gets to Fowler..
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by JustLikeYouOnlyPrettier on Feb 1, 2012 10:47 AM EST reply actions
Williams is bigger, i.e. fits what Jimbo wants to do more
Fowler is more typical.oof tge type of DE you’ll find in FL.
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Lets Wait For
Williams First Guys, we are acting like he committed to us but has he?
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See. Fowler thanked the FSU staff for being there for him. Not too bad.
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Notice he didnt look the interviewer in the eye once
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Oh, I noticed. He’s not 100% comfortable with his choice, and he definitely knows he played some people wrong.
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by JustLikeYouOnlyPrettier on Feb 1, 2012 10:58 AM EST up reply actions
His Dad was seemingly upset and reaffirmed that he is stil a big Nole fan.
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by zewhitedevil on Feb 1, 2012 10:59 AM EST up reply actions
First thing I noticed, too.
Body language indicated he knows something was “off” in how he handled this.
he doesn't get off that easy.
I’ll take Casher though and be happy. Kid is business. Casher took the year off to get his grades in order. Fowler got his butt sat for acting up.
I have to agree. I liked Fowler’s potential but he showed that he could be a problem with his antics during his senior year. I was hoping that would be cleaned up at FSU but he chose UF and now that is his problem.
what do you think his potential as an OLB?
Compared to DE? He will be a 3-4 OLB with UF. He will need to learn how to cover the flats at times.
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Top DE in 2013
Any names that we have a chance with? It is a position of need now. I know Nkemdiche said we are one school he is looking at, but I think the consensus is that he is Bama bound..
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If we dont get Williams that is
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by newdynastynole on Feb 1, 2012 10:58 AM EST up reply actions
i am getting absolutely no work done, and love it
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Work done...
I haven’t taken a shower!
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That was me last year and I loved it. Should have done the same this year, because I am not getting any work done
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by newdynastynole on Feb 1, 2012 11:07 AM EST up reply actions
Try being on the West Coast following this
Thankfully I have the 1 yr old alarm clock that got me going early.
I’m taking my talents to the kitchen to get some Orange Juice while the kiddo is sleeping
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You know
you have been on this website a longtime when your name is FSU….
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Dante Fowler: "I always hated Florida, and I always told myself I would never go to Florida and now I’m about to be playing for them."
Guy on a Buffalo
I always told myself I would never date a Gator. I would never be friends with a Gator. I’ve done one of them, and someday may do the other.
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by JustLikeYouOnlyPrettier on Feb 1, 2012 11:23 AM EST up reply actions
I’d rather have warm OCPs.
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by JustLikeYouOnlyPrettier on Feb 1, 2012 11:29 AM EST up reply actions
Ha! For that,
I’m going to find your boyfriend here and direct him to the best of the shops on River St. He’ll come home with something good for you!
Apparently, he called off work without telling me. How rude is that? I’ll have to wait to get some decent pastries.
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by JustLikeYouOnlyPrettier on Feb 1, 2012 11:32 AM EST up reply actions
ya unfortunately, i am doing the same thing...
however she did say this and i quote, “I look much prettier in garnet and gold.”
Keep her.
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by JustLikeYouOnlyPrettier on Feb 1, 2012 11:26 AM EST up reply actions
ya she is a keeper...
and doesn’t care a whole lot about it, which is good cause i care to much about cfb lol. She came with me to the OU, UF, and Notre Dame games.
could never imagine a relationship working between true Nole and Gator fans.
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by SteadfastNole on Feb 1, 2012 11:27 AM EST up reply actions
Make no mistake. I am dating a Nole. But, I have befriended a Gator. Sometimes people make bad choices and go to UF.
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by JustLikeYouOnlyPrettier on Feb 1, 2012 11:29 AM EST up reply actions
Yea…UF people are dumb
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by SteadfastNole on Feb 1, 2012 11:32 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Totally. Stupid Gators.
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by JustLikeYouOnlyPrettier on Feb 1, 2012 11:34 AM EST up reply actions
Oh no! As long as one cares less about college football, it can work out.
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by JustLikeYouOnlyPrettier on Feb 1, 2012 11:34 AM EST up reply actions
I married a gator fan and have since turned into a Nole fan and have been laying the ground work so my son is a nole, don’t allow anything UF to be bought for him and will burn that in front the person that does
by nole your enemy on Feb 1, 2012 11:36 AM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
Almost married a Dawg. But, I taught his kids the chop, and they used to do it every time someone mentioned FSU on TV.
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by JustLikeYouOnlyPrettier on Feb 1, 2012 11:39 AM EST up reply actions
Take him to his 1st game, and have it be at the Doak.
Done deal, he will be a Nole for life.
When ahead never let up. When behind never give up.
It is hard to overestimate how significant the advantage you gain from being underestimated.
by Chief Pit Bull on Feb 1, 2012 1:25 PM EST up reply actions
He had a Tony Steward look on his face. JMHO
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by Chief Pit Bull on Feb 1, 2012 1:16 PM EST up reply actions
What?!?!
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by newdynastynole on Feb 1, 2012 11:25 AM EST up reply actions
Honestly I’d rather him not if it means we can get Williams instead
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by SteadfastNole on Feb 1, 2012 11:25 AM EST up reply actions
No
But I got you excited in this low point of NSD! And I don’t know if we are going to land Williams.
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so who plays WDE in 2013?
Jenkins is gone, and i only see Casher as an option there. we are great in the interior, but it looks like we will be forced to sign either a bunch of WDE, or a bunch of LBs and play a 3-4 at this rate. we have WDE, and he just signed today.
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2013 DE's are MEJ (SDE) & Chris Casher (WDE)
2nd team depends on Williams & NKemdiche
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After reading the other day
that Nkemdiche is actually considering us, I really hope he gives us a legit shot. I think WDE should be a priority of ours in 2013
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by newdynastynole on Feb 1, 2012 11:34 AM EST up reply actions
who plays with Casher?
he cant play every snap, we need some depth. i assume Newberry is a SDE? if that is the case, every DE we currently have that will be on roster is a SDE. Williams is a SDE (possibly growing into a DT) and Nkemdiche is expected to be a LB for us. am i missing anyone? i had no idea we were so thin at WDE. maybe we will just play 2 SDE on run downs to save snaps for Casher.
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Williams is a DE. Nkemdiche is a DE. Hicks is still a DE & will not be flipping to TE now with no Fowler.
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We do not have Nkemdiche
plus he would be a true freshman. Hicks has not shown me much. Newberry is unproven. We will be thin at DE in 2013, especially at WDE.
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by newdynastynole on Feb 1, 2012 11:45 AM EST up reply actions
Nkemdiche will have a Clowney-type impact. Nobody "has" him right now.
Hicks has proven to be a solid backup.
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wait, who?
only Clowney has the possibility to fit that description
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He's right there with Clowney.
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Lean. Long way to go.
I want him & Laremy Tunsil…..in that order.
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Yeah those are two of my top 5 also
plenty of talent. I want green and bryant at RB also
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I want Newberry at OL. I think his ceiling is higher there
by nole your enemy on Feb 1, 2012 11:52 AM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
narrow hips say otherwise
not sure how much weight he can really hold
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Body type says no, but his play says otherwise. Only guy that could block Clowney in the UA game last year
by nole your enemy on Feb 1, 2012 12:04 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
Hart held his own, considering
but pass pro is only 1 part of the game, and it doesnt bode well for a 6’6" 270 lb OT after his first year
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2013's fate was pretty much written when Lynch flipped in 2011.
Shot a Gator in Jean Shorts just to watch him die.
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2013's fate was pretty much written when Lynch flipped in 2011.
Shot a Gator in Jean Shorts just to watch him die.
by AMFKNole on Feb 1, 2012 1:24 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
if Hicks stays, that give him 1 year with Casher (which should work fine)
but we are recruiting Nkemdiche at LB (according to him), even though we arent likely to get/take him. and Williams is a SDE (who looks to be going to USC anyway)
"I guess they have a reputation of being more of a tricky team and not being tough. You hit ‘em in the mouth, and they don’t like it. Other teams that have beat them just hit them in the mouth, so that’s what we started out with.’’ - Nick Moody
yeah, just looked and realized i had the names confused
Nkemdiche is definitely a DE, and i didnt know we ever had a shot at him. i was thinking Junior Gnonkonde, who is listed as a LB but was coming in as a LB. strange last name, relatively unknown in our recruiting. easy to confuse the 2.
"I guess they have a reputation of being more of a tricky team and not being tough. You hit ‘em in the mouth, and they don’t like it. Other teams that have beat them just hit them in the mouth, so that’s what we started out with.’’ - Nick Moody
Could see a JUCO signed at DE (WDE more likely IMO)
for depth purposes and to allow time for a potential 2013 to develop if not ready for immediate PT
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Fowler stayed true to form
Perfect fit as a Gayta, IMO. Surprised he didn’t go to Ohio State and play for Coach Liar.
whats going on with their standards? thats 2 guys that couldnt get in elsewhere
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I have a Question
I know we went with Quality over Quantity but why is it that we didn’t sign more recruits, what was the reasoning?
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With 2013 being such a strong class, it almost works out perfectly
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by SteadfastNole on Feb 1, 2012 11:34 AM EST up reply actions
She means limited room with lots kids returning
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by SteadfastNole on Feb 1, 2012 11:36 AM EST up reply actions
cant have more than 85 on scholarship
we will be losing a lot next season (which translates to 30+ in the 2013 class), but we dont need to sign a ton this year.
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we didn't have enough scholly room...
We over signed last year, and its setting up for a huge class next year. Also, the talent in state isn’t as strong as next year
Okay now this makes sense.
Hopefully next year will be a good year as far as talent goes.
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not enough room for more
by nole your enemy on Feb 1, 2012 11:38 AM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
Bah. Done with the live thread.
Tired of having my pearls of wisdom rejected.
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by devnole on Feb 1, 2012 11:37 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
seriously, i dont think i have gotten a single one
and there have been some good ones too.
"I guess they have a reputation of being more of a tricky team and not being tough. You hit ‘em in the mouth, and they don’t like it. Other teams that have beat them just hit them in the mouth, so that’s what we started out with.’’ - Nick Moody
kinda like misfit toys?
"I guess they have a reputation of being more of a tricky team and not being tough. You hit ‘em in the mouth, and they don’t like it. Other teams that have beat them just hit them in the mouth, so that’s what we started out with.’’ - Nick Moody
Texas’s future concerns me. I think they’re a sleeping giant on the rebound with the only variable being how well Mack Brown manages things there.
Who would you put at Texas?
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by JustLikeYouOnlyPrettier on Feb 1, 2012 11:42 AM EST up reply actions
if Saban went their....
Texas might get greedy and join the NFL
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Chuck the chest!
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by JustLikeYouOnlyPrettier on Feb 1, 2012 11:45 AM EST up reply actions
Really been a pretty good day so far.
We’ve signed almost all of the commits. Fowler flipped, not sure that is all bad, and we are waiting on Eligwe. Hopefully we’ll pick up another surprise or two.
The coaches have done a great job securing the kids that they wanted and needed.
by tuscaloosa-nole on Feb 1, 2012 11:40 AM EST reply actions
I’d gladly take Nelson, too.
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by JustLikeYouOnlyPrettier on Feb 1, 2012 11:42 AM EST up reply actions
TWSS......literally.
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Winston and Mario
Leaders who want to be Noles on both sides of the ball.
Best-case scenario that doesn't have him in G&G.
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there are no more DE's left on the board
i would guess you mean to stay excited because Eligwe and Darby are still left to sign, maybe a 3* surprise or 2
"I guess they have a reputation of being more of a tricky team and not being tough. You hit ‘em in the mouth, and they don’t like it. Other teams that have beat them just hit them in the mouth, so that’s what we started out with.’’ - Nick Moody
fine for signees or players?
we dont need a WDE next season, but we are thin there (only Casher and Hicks) in 2013
"I guess they have a reputation of being more of a tricky team and not being tough. You hit ‘em in the mouth, and they don’t like it. Other teams that have beat them just hit them in the mouth, so that’s what we started out with.’’ - Nick Moody
time yes
but only 1 class. will have to get JUCOs and HS DE’s next year (at least one of which is ready to take some snaps)
"I guess they have a reputation of being more of a tricky team and not being tough. You hit ‘em in the mouth, and they don’t like it. Other teams that have beat them just hit them in the mouth, so that’s what we started out with.’’ - Nick Moody
not worried, per se
just reasonably concerned. its not the end of the world, but we do have some work to do
"I guess they have a reputation of being more of a tricky team and not being tough. You hit ‘em in the mouth, and they don’t like it. Other teams that have beat them just hit them in the mouth, so that’s what we started out with.’’ - Nick Moody
Because we've already got a top-notch DE haul in MEJ and Casher.
Along with a couple of All Conference/All Americans that will still be here next year.
We’re stocked on the DL.
I was thinking we might have to get a JUCO next year
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by newdynastynole on Feb 1, 2012 11:59 AM EST up reply actions
2013 is another story, though
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by newdynastynole on Feb 1, 2012 11:59 AM EST up reply actions
not everywhere...
"I guess they have a reputation of being more of a tricky team and not being tough. You hit ‘em in the mouth, and they don’t like it. Other teams that have beat them just hit them in the mouth, so that’s what we started out with.’’ - Nick Moody
ditto
"I guess they have a reputation of being more of a tricky team and not being tough. You hit ‘em in the mouth, and they don’t like it. Other teams that have beat them just hit them in the mouth, so that’s what we started out with.’’ - Nick Moody
Algholor
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by newdynastynole on Feb 1, 2012 11:54 AM EST up reply actions
Bracy taught me how to be fast
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by newdynastynole on Feb 1, 2012 11:55 AM EST up reply actions
Stopwatch?
Or electronic?
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by KnoxvilleNole on Feb 1, 2012 11:57 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
Wind aided
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Timing the gun?
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USC bound, not waiting up for his announcement
"I guess they have a reputation of being more of a tricky team and not being tough. You hit ‘em in the mouth, and they don’t like it. Other teams that have beat them just hit them in the mouth, so that’s what we started out with.’’ - Nick Moody
Ricardo Louis still set to announce at 1?
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by newdynastynole on Feb 1, 2012 11:55 AM EST up reply actions
AU
"I guess they have a reputation of being more of a tricky team and not being tough. You hit ‘em in the mouth, and they don’t like it. Other teams that have beat them just hit them in the mouth, so that’s what we started out with.’’ - Nick Moody
likelihood he goes anywhere else is probably about 5%
"I guess they have a reputation of being more of a tricky team and not being tough. You hit ‘em in the mouth, and they don’t like it. Other teams that have beat them just hit them in the mouth, so that’s what we started out with.’’ - Nick Moody
Auburn needs some type of good news today
sinister smile
This is great news. But, I didn’t know there was reason to doubt he was anything but.
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by JustLikeYouOnlyPrettier on Feb 1, 2012 11:59 AM EST up reply actions
After watching Michigan's interview
We need an inside training facility, to lure those recruits.
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Yep we’re struggling with that recruiting thing now (!)
by FSU on Feb 1, 2012 12:13 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Maybe...
but I’d take the class with #1 DT, #1 QB, #1 (and #3) DE every single time. Only money position missing is that elusive LT.
Yep.
Might even say top JUCOs were more important to OL for us THIS year than a top flight 18 year old.
But I’m going to be fairly perturbed if we miss on Tunsil.
This fact is not lost on me.
See further commentary. This year it was important, but JUCOs will stop the bleeding… next year it is absolutely critical.
i was going w/ the sexual inuendo related to 'money position'
(bad sign when you have to explain your joke – my bad)
Fixed it for you...
and we really want that moneypositionSHOT…
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oh...impatient grasshopper
one must achieve the money position before one launches the money shot
also the training inside may help us win a championship. Since we can train when its too hot or raining.
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we arent cold like Michigan, so the IPF isnt nearly as big of a deal for us
"I guess they have a reputation of being more of a tricky team and not being tough. You hit ‘em in the mouth, and they don’t like it. Other teams that have beat them just hit them in the mouth, so that’s what we started out with.’’ - Nick Moody
i know, and it helps
just not as much as cold. lightning is random, but cold (and intermittent snow) happen every year for months at a time.
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The FSU IPF isn't needed to keep the elements OUT.....it's to keep the awesomeness IN.
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Please please please please please
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by JustLikeYouOnlyPrettier on Feb 1, 2012 12:16 PM EST reply actions
For one moment there i thought that hat was G&G
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me too!
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by newdynastynole on Feb 1, 2012 12:17 PM EST up reply actions
dadgumit indeed
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by JustLikeYouOnlyPrettier on Feb 1, 2012 12:17 PM EST up reply actions
I did like his presence though.
He called Dari Noku (sp?) “sir.” He seemed like a good kid. Good luck to him out there in Cali.
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by KnoxvilleNole on Feb 1, 2012 12:22 PM EST up reply actions
Algholor to USC
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Dammit....
I though tthat was an FSU hat when he picked it up.
Most Miami fans have a bead case of SARS. Slap Ass Retarded Syndrome.
by Nole Resurrected on Feb 1, 2012 12:17 PM EST reply actions
Me, too. I squeed a bit.
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by JustLikeYouOnlyPrettier on Feb 1, 2012 12:26 PM EST up reply actions
I am telling you
Doing great on Defense, not so good on offense.
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Winston, Bracy, Pender, Kourtzidis disagree with you.
OL is the only question, and we got potential IMMEDIATE contributors there, at least.
Yea, only Pender, Bracy, Winston, Christo….
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by SteadfastNole on Feb 1, 2012 12:20 PM EST up reply actions
We are gonna get another big time recruit soon
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how crazy would it be if it was Peat.
I think its darby though
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its Eligwe
check the smiley face he posted
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i never went to class on NSD
and i skipped for worse reasons. wouldnt mind if he was hangin at the apt right now
"I guess they have a reputation of being more of a tricky team and not being tough. You hit ‘em in the mouth, and they don’t like it. Other teams that have beat them just hit them in the mouth, so that’s what we started out with.’’ - Nick Moody
Couldn't have film of the mortgage papers being signed and whatnot.
by arrdub on Feb 1, 2012 12:20 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Can't show Ed Orgeron making illegal calls
May still be using UT’s cell phone.
haha our coaches get to sit back and watch TV.
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by SteadfastNole on Feb 1, 2012 12:22 PM EST up reply actions
so now just darby and loius?
and has it been official that Eligwe has signed?
Offering first appears to be a real factor for a lot of kids.
You hear this a bunch during explanations of why certain schools are chosen. This surprises me, since fit and future opportunities would be bigger factors by far!
I’m not sure there’s anyone we can even expect a fowlerizing from
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by SteadfastNole on Feb 1, 2012 12:26 PM EST up reply actions
If we could swing someone onto our team this late in the game would be awesome.
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I would be okay with him going with baseball but not him going to Stanford. If he is really about education like he said in his interview then he won’t leave for the MLB for the cash. But he is a kid.
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Reports that Eligwe has signed
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Eligwe?
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by newdynastynole on Feb 1, 2012 12:33 PM EST up reply actions
2013 DL
could be 4 5 star players (MEJr, Goldman, Jernigan, Casher) rotating with 4 star players (Newberry, Shanks, mitchell and NLS). I doubt it, but I really hope Werner stays in 2013
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Yeah I actually looked it up to see if he was one.
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by newdynastynole on Feb 1, 2012 12:48 PM EST up reply actions
Werner is gone, gone, gone.
He’s older than your average player and already married. Unless he gets hurt 2012 is his last year. We’ll have to settle for watching him blitzkrieg NFL OLs for years to come.
Well, now I read this on the chat:
“For what it’s worth, I’ve spoken to Bjoern Werner and he says it is very important to him to be the first person in his family to graduate from college.”
But still think he can come back and finish degree after he tours the NFL. Silly to pass up a contract when you can go 1st round.
4 classes ranked #1 in last 5 years, I think.
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by newdynastynole on Feb 1, 2012 12:50 PM EST up reply actions
Bama?
On Rivals, they were #1in 2008, 2009 and 2011. They did a poor job in 2010 and were only ranked 4th
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by newdynastynole on Feb 1, 2012 12:54 PM EST up reply actions
Is it me, or is Landon Collins older than his mama?
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This is impossible
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by newdynastynole on Feb 1, 2012 12:56 PM EST up reply actions
Um…WHAT?!
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by JustLikeYouOnlyPrettier on Feb 1, 2012 1:17 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah.....but I'm D.Russo.
What’s YOUR excuse??
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Control the Sunshine State & sooner or later you'll control the country.
It's apparently been announced via Seminoles twitter.
And they can’t discuss on officials channels until it’s confirmed.
I feel like
last year more kids were saying where they were going this year it seems more of the analysts talking.
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Have we officially started a tradition?
with 5 star DL committing on ESPN on NSD? Last year it was Jernigan, this year Goldman
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Hopefully
Hopefully we are back to the days of dominating defense year in and year out. Mike Tyson put it best-“Everyone has a plan until they get punched in the mouth.”
The DTs and DEs will only make our athletic LBs look even better. And the ability to only have to rush 4 will allow us to leave 7 in coverage, or throw some zone blitzes or crazy packages. I myself look forward to third down and long and seeing Jenkins, Jernigan, Edwards, and Werner coming for the quarterback. With the size, strength, and speed of Edwards and Werner, either could move inside on pass rushing downs.
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This is the exciting thing.
I can’t help but think about Kansas, 1st and goal, twice, first game of the year, national tv. Daggered.
I’d just like to be a QB in the NCAA.
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by JustLikeYouOnlyPrettier on Feb 1, 2012 1:14 PM EST up reply actions
Imagine having EVERY coach giving you spiel like that, now imagine your 17…. You can see how crazy it can get
by FSU on Feb 1, 2012 1:09 PM EST up reply actions
2:15-2:30 PM
FSU.
DadGummit.
by KnoxvilleNole on Feb 1, 2012 1:18 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Pretty much all of the "experts" are saying all FSU. So does FSU, so that's a good sign.
DadGummit.
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I'd assume a mother would want both of her babies together
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by AMFKNole on Feb 1, 2012 1:52 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Ok - here's my best rejected question for teh board:
at DE we have:
jenkins, werner, hicks & tank -
at DT/NT we have:
timmy, mcloud, cummings, dawins, mcallister, erving – add to that the return of jacobby
now add mej, casher and goldman -
doesnt this necessarily push someone out of rotation, even to transfer?
and if so, who?
Hopefully whoever sucks at the collegiate level sorry its not a true answer but I don’t want to lose any of them.
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That’s what Fowler thinks.
Truthfully it will work it’s way out. DL are prone to injury.
by FSU on Feb 1, 2012 1:29 PM EST up reply actions
It's just so short sighted
Ya, 2012 would be tough, but 2013 would be wide open.
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by AMFKNole on Feb 1, 2012 1:53 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Seriously, our last two (now 3) DE classes have been extremely sparse in numbers. We’ve literally gotten left holding our d*** three years running. This year we signed two great ones. But they HAVE to be great or else 2013 gets real dicey.
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by AMFKNole on Feb 1, 2012 2:27 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
good pt
we are beyond loaded – and you cant redshirt any of the youngsters, can you?
oh and NLS is in the mix as well
we go 5 deep…
I brought this up like a year ago..
Eventually a kids metabolism slows down enough to gain some weight. Case in point, one of my training partners was 145 coming out of HS…hes now 240 in his mid20’s. Could this be the offseason that Toshmon gains enough weight to provide some quality depth?
Control the Sunshine State & sooner or later you'll control the country.
i doubt toshmon gets in the mix unless he puts on 45 lb of lean muscle
we’re just so loaded…
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Hey, FSU, Janine Edwards read your post from yesterday and just showed the world last year’s evaluation sheet on ESPNU. She never acknowledged you.
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this made me chuckle
pretty loudly :)
"The only place success comes before work is in the dictionary." Vince Lombardi
"We'll win games with talent, we'll win championships with character." Jimbo Fisher
“I don’t know if I will make it to the NFL so a Stanford Education is the best offer I had!”
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IMO, one the best options for kids if they can go
by FSU on Feb 1, 2012 1:43 PM EST up reply actions
Yep, good choice.
A top drawer education for free is hard to turn down. Especially considering their Football program is legit too.
pac - 10/12 is becoming an interesting conference
oregon, stanford, usc all doing really good things,
plus w/ the rest of the conference truly sucking, one of those three can come through unscathed every year—> good chance at mnc game
FSU’s run in ACC & Carroll’s run in Pac 12 very similar in a lot of ways.
by FSU on Feb 1, 2012 1:47 PM EST up reply actions
add UW
Washington is recruiting well and will prob get better next year with the addition of the Cal coach/recruiter
UW had a good day yesterday,
but i think theyre still a full tier below oregon/usc and stanford…
They are in studio 2
in Charlotte. I should go pay them a visit they are down the road from me.
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I hope this success of Stanford doesn't push J.Winston to them.
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by Chief Pit Bull on Feb 1, 2012 1:54 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
He was openly recruiting for FSU on national television
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by SteadfastNole on Feb 1, 2012 1:59 PM EST up reply actions
Stanford has
an offensive line, we don’t. Don’t be surprised if Winston picks Stanford over FSU.
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HartNole?
He’s not going to Stanford.
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by SteadfastNole on Feb 1, 2012 2:04 PM EST up reply actions
LOL. Pluck one,another pops up!
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When my G-ma's not happy....I get hit in the shins with a cane.
OR…..I get “the look”—which hurts sooooooooooooooo much worse.
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Dude you’ve been all over this thread and it looks like you really don’t know much about FSU recruiting
All in all
I do know some, more then most. Less than maybe you.
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this is the gangsta way of coming out of the closet
a dolla bill massage w/ a surprise ending..
(notice the coordinated underwear the fellas are rockin)
avery young doesnt sound like he's choosing a university for teh education factor..
by 000111 on Feb 1, 2012 2:06 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
almost as bad as upshaw"tut dat folk"
God love the dumb kids..you really can’t win without em. Lol
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Gross. I’d never want a family member to be close to that nutjob muschamp
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by SteadfastNole on Feb 1, 2012 2:44 PM EST up reply actions
I only say this because
maybe the same situation is going on at the Fowler household. Crossing Fingers.
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I think he is saying
they parents are GayTurds! And would never want their kid going to FSU.
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i think mr smith taught us all the eternal truth:
parents just don’t understand…
He still hasn't faxed his LOI
Maybe because Fowler flipped?
by NoleySmokes on Feb 1, 2012 2:45 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Georgia
is about to lose a top recruit to UF, that has to be the worst situation in the world for them.
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It should always work out both ways. Lose some win more. Having Mario Edwards Sr on our side didn’t hurt
I just love the fact they point out. That parents want them to make decisions on their own. But sometimes the kid might not be mature enough to really evaluate that decision properly and parents/guardians step in
by FSU on Feb 1, 2012 2:52 PM EST up reply actions
Better bail bond business at UF.
Gramps ain’t no dummy.
I think this is hugely underconsidered when we discuss recruiting. Who here is not going to be completely on top of their child’s recruiting if faced with that situation? I know I’m making the final decision for my son if it becomes necessary. He can do the same for his kids.
Recruiter’s deal with this all the time. Thats why its important to deal with the real decision maker with recruiting a prospect
by FSU on Feb 1, 2012 2:57 PM EST up reply actions
It's the same principle in any major sales presentation, if you're not talking directly with the final decision maker, you probably won't close.
>------::----::------->Spearing 'em and Scalping 'em like it's 1999
I'm not so sure this Jimbo fella is the right man for the job.
one last gif filled post since that was the final surprise and i have these badboys saved for today
by chan011 on Feb 1, 2012 3:03 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Rec'd this
for the combination of Carlton and Childish Gambino
I heard Darby
was pushed back to 3pm and he is doing the hat game.
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FSU, is there any way for JHC to do this without his GPa's consent?
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by AMFKNole on Feb 1, 2012 2:59 PM EST via Android app reply actions
Does the NCAA require a guardian sign the LOI up until the prospect turns 21?
I read that somewhere
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by AMFKNole on Feb 1, 2012 3:06 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
The NLI isnt as important. It’s the GIA that’s important (little known secret, you don’t have to sign a LOI at all)
by FSU on Feb 1, 2012 3:09 PM EST up reply actions
So he could do this without the LOI as long as he's 18
Does he know that, that’s the question.
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by AMFKNole on Feb 1, 2012 3:11 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
The better question is do you want to do that with the legal guardian if you’re a school and have to deal with that?
by FSU on Feb 1, 2012 3:12 PM EST up reply actions
I'm just trying to win an argument with a Gate
He swears that this puts JHC in UF’s pocket bc he can’t sign without a guardian.
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by AMFKNole on Feb 1, 2012 3:15 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
NLI vs GIA
Doesn’t the LOI bind him to the school and the GIA is the scholarship documentation? One would have to be let out of the LOI by the school? I am not sure so please help me out. Thanks.
Yes, the GIA is the actual “Grant-In-Aid” scholarship. The NLI is the actual “documentation of intent to enroll full time”
by FSU on Feb 1, 2012 3:18 PM EST up reply actions
Would be interesting.. He was the “surprise” on I thought could be a possibility to make room for… Some people (Bud, ESPN, etc) may be right and it be a compromise choice that everyone can agree on
by FSU on Feb 1, 2012 3:03 PM EST up reply actions
Messed up.
Parents should advise on the decision. They shouldn’t MAKE it.
…and somewhere Mama Collins is crying.
by Nole2005 on Feb 1, 2012 3:04 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Not even close.
Four kids.
Are you seriously saying that you think parents should pick schools? SMH.
I think he’s saying it depends on the kid’s maturity.
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Yeah, that worked out horribly for us, and it worked out horribly for Aaron Ly—-. Wait a second, what was your point?
Little soon to judge how it worked out for Lynch
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by AMFKNole on Feb 1, 2012 3:13 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Parents can & still do make school choices......sometimes using nefarious methods.
There was no “wrong” choice for AL, because he’s to good.
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parents should be very involved w/ the decision
after all – theyre the ones who will live in the double-wide trailor clemson or auburn will provide
(c.f. ronald dupree)
How did she enjoy the bowl game?
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She gets no play
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What I’m saying is what I’ve said, " I know I’m making the final decision for my son if it becomes necessary". SMH, does that mean you’re “Showing [your] humility”?
If you can't trust your child to make the right decision at that age and live with it
Have you done your job as a parent?
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by AMFKNole on Feb 1, 2012 3:12 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
I'm not gonna go back through the AL saga as I did last year and the discussion of overbearing parents
But at what point does your child become an adult? After you’ve led them by the nose to the decision you think is best?
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by AMFKNole on Feb 1, 2012 3:17 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
agree
there’s a big difference between choosing a curfew for your 14 year old and being overbearing and choosing a college for your 18 year old. I’m glad my parents didn’t try to control freak me.
that’s my opinion and a message board won’t change it. probably best to move on.
by Nole2005 on Feb 1, 2012 3:22 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I would say that part may be part of being a parent. Basically every situation is different with each family.
by FSU on Feb 1, 2012 3:15 PM EST up reply actions
How many times has someone on this board said "They are just kids...These kids don't always know what they want...When I was that age I couldn't do etc, etc.
Sometimes it’s necessary to step in as a parent and put the kid on a certain path. It’s not a cookie cutter answer and each situation is different. In the case of college football, these actions are played out in public.
If it becomes necessary?
kinda creepy, but hey, that’s just my background talking.
No chance I ever would have let my parents decide that for me.
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Fowler?
I have been reading that Fowler’s LOI has not been signed and sent in? Is this true?
According to rivals he has signed
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by newdynastynole on Feb 1, 2012 3:15 PM EST up reply actions
Aguayo
With out class at 19 and 22 avail scholorships, do we still greyshirt him?
Darby
Anyone watch his announcement? I missed it. What did he say?
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Thanked God yada yada
Picked FSU, wiped his butt with the Auburn hat….. ok I embelished a bit.
Darby has speed to burn, my favorite pick up today.
Speed is a great asset; but it's greater when it's combined with quickness - and there's a big difference.
- Ty Cobb
Micheal Ray Garvin
with talent? :)
by flash_kiley on Feb 1, 2012 3:55 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
We will find out.
Speed is a great asset; but it's greater when it's combined with quickness - and there's a big difference.
- Ty Cobb
He said he's ready to get newdy......and nasty.....in Tallahassee.
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by newdynastynole on Feb 1, 2012 3:17 PM EST up reply actions
you need a better definition
of fun… or what to do on a weekend! /sigh married 13 years, one can… or should always dream
by StM on Feb 1, 2012 6:06 PM EST up reply actions
Just waiting to hear back from Clowney & Tony Steward.....
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Most likely, but potentially not. Main thing is contacting 13s now.
by FSU on Feb 1, 2012 3:19 PM EST up reply actions
Nkemdiche come on down!
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by newdynastynole on Feb 1, 2012 3:19 PM EST up reply actions
I'm gonna consider this a pipe dream until told otherwise
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by AMFKNole on Feb 1, 2012 3:21 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
quote of the day
Other than “……Florida State University!”
Legacy starts now!
by Nole954 on Feb 1, 2012 3:49 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
lmfao
Speed is a great asset; but it's greater when it's combined with quickness - and there's a big difference.
- Ty Cobb
ok so i had to go to class right after peat...
i see darby committed but didnt sign yet, what is he waiting for. and what is going on with JHC?
Paper work on Darby isnt here… JHC grandpa isnt signing paperwork at the moment
by FSU on Feb 1, 2012 3:25 PM EST up reply actions
lol thats kind of funny.
are we ranked two now? and was Darby a cool announcement?
Right. Some think FSU might be a compromise choice if it doesnt get resolved.
by FSU on Feb 1, 2012 3:29 PM EST up reply actions
JHC paperwork will be signed once he takes Granpa's dentures hostage later tonight....
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by DRusso97 on Feb 1, 2012 3:26 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Does anyone know where to stream the press conference?
by nole your enemy on Feb 1, 2012 3:31 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
http://www.seminoles.com/allaccess/?media=293948
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by SteadfastNole on Feb 1, 2012 3:32 PM EST up reply actions
It is about to start
http://www.seminoles.com/allaccess/?media=293948
99% of all gators give the rest a bad name.
Here's hoping the Jimbo Fisher press conference is starting late
Because he’s on the phone with JHC.
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Jimbo Fisher Press Conference...
http://www.ustream.tv/channel/warchanttvlive
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Williams?
I just heard that L. Williams LOI hasn’t been sent in either . Any truth to that?
Maybe
That is who Jimbo is on the phone with, crossing fingers.
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I'd say odds are better that whatever is holding up the PC is good news, rather than bad.
Not sure if LW or what, but maybe there are some fish still out there.
possibly?
What i was thinking or hoping I should say after what Fowler did to us
by ShenValleyNole on Feb 1, 2012 3:58 PM EST up reply actions
Looking forward to the speed that us growing on this team. Bracy, Darby, Greene, Green, Jones, Pender, Freeman, Williams, Smith.
Gonna be fun to watch!
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Los is no slouch. Neither is Winston for that matter! The thing that I remember most about those dominating Florida teams in the Tebow era was speed. I think we are assembling that kind of team.
DadGummit.
by KnoxvilleNole on Feb 1, 2012 4:48 PM EST up reply actions
Williams is Los
I couldn’t forget him. And yeah Winston is fast. Gonna be fun to watch him grow.
by flash_kiley on Feb 1, 2012 5:46 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
My mistake. Thought you were referring to PJ Williams.
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by KnoxvilleNole on Feb 1, 2012 9:23 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Can someone explain what was being said in the press conference about Casher?
What school was not supporting Casher’s efforts to make grades?
He was having trouble with grades at his HS so he transferred to another school (I'm guessing for better help/lower academic standards). He wasn't allowed to play his senior season due to transfer rules which he appealed and lost IIRC.
DadGummit.
by KnoxvilleNole on Feb 1, 2012 4:46 PM EST up reply actions
I remember this,
but it sounded like the original school was intractable and not willing to assist with the process. Did he end up going to a private school that worked with him and FSU to get him up to speed?
Not a private school. Davidson High in Mobile.
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by KnoxvilleNole on Feb 1, 2012 4:54 PM EST up reply actions
I’m a partial guy, a ‘Nole fan. Yet, as detached as I can be in assessing this, it seems the original school should be ashamed of themselves in that here is a kid who, by result, had the opportunity to get to a D-1 university for academics and athletics. Too bad he had to jump through hoops to get to the finish line. Then again, I really don’t know the situation.
From how Jimbo was describing it in the PC, it sounded like a pretty messy situation. Even so, I expect a high school to do their best to get someone who has the chance of a free college education in to the university. As an educational institution, that should always be goal #1 no matter what issues there are.
DadGummit.
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Left a private school to go to
a public school with a good reputation for helping kids who want to get straightened straightened out
Final
So everyone we all expected is in (plus a few great ones)except Winston, signing later this week or next and Fowler, who signed with UF. Am I missing anyone?
Obsessed with Seminole football!!
Ostensibly?
Sorry couldn’t resist.
And since people will surely mention it, you were quite redundant in your post.
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by newdynastynole on Feb 1, 2012 4:47 PM EST up reply actions
Just typed it correctly elsewhere. Im attempting to learn how to “manage” now… Im finding it a bit more challenging than originally thought.
Class Rankings
Scout: FSU 9th
Rivals: FSU 5th
ESPN: FSU 2nd
247: FSU 2nd
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-Scout: FSU 9th- FAIL
Rivals: FSU 5th
ESPN: FSU 2nd
247: FSU 2nd
by arrdub on Feb 1, 2012 4:58 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
On scout
FSU is the only class in the top 10 with less than 23 recruits, and we have 19. Looks like they put emphasis on total numbers
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by newdynastynole on Feb 1, 2012 4:59 PM EST up reply actions
Scout: FSU 9thFAIL
Rivals: FSU 5thFAIL
ESPN: FSU 2nd
247: FSU 2nd
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I like Rivals. Couple of years ago they were even better, but I think they’re still good. I think we’re a top 5 class.
I agree
Simply because we have arguably the highest average star rating, even though we have 2 kickers. That is incredible!
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by newdynastynole on Feb 1, 2012 5:04 PM EST up reply actions
Honestly...
They are basing it off of Quantity not Quality IMO
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Scout
Has Miami and Florida ahead of us. What are these people smoking?
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Highest average rating on scout
2nd highest on rivals
3rd highest on 247
This is with 2 kickers!!!
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by newdynastynole on Feb 1, 2012 4:58 PM EST up reply actions
Scout
Has over 40 players rated as 5 stars. That’s the biggest joke of a site I’ve ever seen
by Cee on Feb 1, 2012 5:01 PM EST up reply actions
I see that same sentiment in a lot of places
I tend to disagree with it. Why is 20-30 the magic number? Just because scout is different than the other 3, doesn’t make them wrong or a “joke”. There are tens of thousands of hs football players across the country. I think 50 is not too many to be considered “elite of the elite”. Just my 2 cents…
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by newdynastynole on Feb 1, 2012 5:03 PM EST up reply actions
5* player was originally conceived to mean a player who could start the moment they set foot on campus I believe
I doubt their scouts honestly believe all of the guys they give 5* to could do that
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by AMFKNole on Feb 1, 2012 5:18 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
ESPN has only 11 five stars
listed this year. Like AMF said, A 5 star is supposed to be a can’t miss player who can contribute right away and is expected to be a 1st rd nfl player. Some of that is subjective. Seeing 40+ players like this is just funny in the sense that they rate basically everyone a 5.
by Cee on Feb 1, 2012 5:25 PM EST up reply actions
Scout made the directive when they opened (class of 2002)
that they’d have 50 5*s every year. Not a decision made year-to-year.
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Its a joke cause you have to earn that status
If something is that damn easy to get would everyone respect it, think about it……
I can see them
doing what the Rams did in the superbowl where they were just running side by side for the last 30 yards staring at each other
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by newdynastynole on Feb 1, 2012 5:22 PM EST up reply actions
Both hopefully on kickoff return.
But I think think G5 stays on punt return.
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Karlos Williams
and Joyner were are best kick returners
by FSUNOLES90210 on Feb 1, 2012 6:09 PM EST up reply actions
This year they were.
And even if they are next year, it would be smart to get 1 if not both of our starting safeties off of kickoff return. Especially when we can replace them with football players that also run track. Remind anyone of Demps and Rainey?
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They are still waiting for
Pender, MEJ, Goldman, P.J. Joyner, And Jimbo with the fax machine to all switch
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When is the 2013 Recruiting Discussion Thread #1 gonna be posted?
These last 5 hours have been brutal since the Darby commitment. There’s nothing to talk about.
Yeah, I'm surprised to be honest.
I thought inertia would carry the commenting on into the night.
Oh well. Bring on Levenberry and Tunsil!
Does anybody have an update on JHC?
Should we forget about him or is there still a slim chance?
heard that his grandpa will end up signing afterall.
UGA.
Besides, Northrup is the better backer. JHC has potential, but for now, give me Reggie.
I think they are both a bit raw. I’ll take Northrup mainly because he wanted to be at FSU.
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by SteadfastNole on Feb 2, 2012 1:17 AM EST up reply actions
UF gets 2 2013 LB commitments today
Daniel McMullen (First Coast) and James Hearns (Lincoln)
Wow
Championship!
Was he not supposed to be an FSU fan/lean? I thought I read something a couple weeks ago that he was FSU’s to lose.
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Not sure, but I know we showed intrest
247 doesn’t show an FSU offer for Hearns. Needless to say, this one has a long way to go till 2/1/13
Championship!
Yea I was just referring to McMillan. I know he’s a big time recruit and with that being a position of need this year I thought FSU was def after him. I had thought that he was a big lean as well.
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Strange
considering we just signed his teammate yesterday
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by newdynastynole on Feb 2, 2012 3:49 PM EST up reply actions
Wow this is a debacle
2013 needs to shape up quick or we’re gonna have some problems, and in no way is that an exaggeration
That kid was so Nole he might as well ride Renegade to NSD
"But they understand expectations don’t win games. And just because you’re picked to win, they don’t give you the trophy when the season starts. And we tell our kids that we have to form great habits and have great work ethic and form our identity as a team. We just have to reinforce that everyday because as we tell them, the pressure of expectations is only there if we aren’t prepared for them. If we prepared for them and we’re prepared mentally and physically, the pressure of the expectation won’t bother us." - Jimbo Fisher
fowler was a commit for 14 months
So anyone can flip at any time. Still along ways to go
by nole your enemy on Feb 2, 2012 4:39 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
True
but considering we’re “behind” in this class, and linebacker was not only an area of need, but the one area we are supposedly “ahead”, this is shocking. This kid was a Nole by any and every account and that he committed to UF instead of holding out says something.
"But they understand expectations don’t win games. And just because you’re picked to win, they don’t give you the trophy when the season starts. And we tell our kids that we have to form great habits and have great work ethic and form our identity as a team. We just have to reinforce that everyday because as we tell them, the pressure of expectations is only there if we aren’t prepared for them. If we prepared for them and we’re prepared mentally and physically, the pressure of the expectation won’t bother us." - Jimbo Fisher
Calm, Soothing Thoughts...
As many have and will point out that there is a whole entire year of recruiting left till signing day.
It sounds to me you have grasped on to the rumor a while ago that “FSU is really behind in 2013”. I believe this is a major misconception that a few people still have. Bud has even come out and said he doesn’t think we are behind and I also think he may have noted that we may be a tad behind only because they were still making very hard pushes for 2012 commits up until signing day. I mean, UF only has 4 2013 commitments as of right now and we have 3, so we are not far behind.
Don’t worry and enjoy the ride. We know this staff is excellent at recruiting and lets just let them do their thing and not over-react to a perceived lack of preparation for the class of 2013.
by Logan Syverson on Feb 2, 2012 6:52 PM EST up reply actions
I know the WR they signed late yesterday, Ralph, is part of that team. A little stunned at the McMillan commit still honestly. Unless there thing I haven’t heard about leading to it.
by City_Nole on Feb 2, 2012 4:47 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
visited last weekend, really enjoyed
not over by a long shot
It's been reported for a while
we were leading for him…..big day for UF.
The only good thing about our position with some of these recruits is that we should be able to sell them on the success we have and the pub we get throughout the season.
McMillan was "always a Gator"
“He grew up a Gator. He was always a Gator fan and he likes the attitude Will Muschamp has…he’s very excited about being part of Gator Nation, there’s no doubt about it.” — First Coast head coach Marty Lee
Last I saw OL Diamond from Chicago still was uncommitted. Wonder if we are
pursuing him or if there is any interest from either side. Maybe he’s signed by now.
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