FSU Defensive End Brandon Jenkins Decides Not To Enter NFL Draft
by Bud Elliott on Jan 5, 2012 1:25 PM EST
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PrintBrandon Jenkins, one of the top defensive ends in the country, has decided to stay at Florida State University for his senior season, per D.C. Reeves. He will not enter the NFL draft. The 6'3" 260 pound Jenkins had another excellent season for the Seminoles and was projected by many draft analysts as a first-round draft pick. Jenkins' sack numbers were down, but he faced frequent double teams and freed up opportunities for others to make plays. The All-American also improved his play against the run by leaps and bounds, thanks to his hard work in the weight program.
Jenkins has never had any off-field incidents at Florida State and should graduate next year. His return is great news for an already dominant Seminole defense that was arguably better than any unit not named Alabama or LSU. Florida State's defense returns 9 of 11 starters and (12 if departing nickel corner Michael Harris is included).
Florida State's defense finished 4th total defense and 4th in yards/play. With this much talent returning, the 'Noles will be expected to compete for the honor of the top defense in the country.
Cornerbacks Greg Reid and Xavier Rhodes have not announced whether they will return to school or enter the NFL draft, but 'Nole fans are anxiously awaiting their decision as well.
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Honestly, I Don't Like This For Him
Go get your money while you’re hot son. Ask Matt Leinart.
by FSUinDC on Jan 5, 2012 1:28 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Jenkins got a 2nd round grade from NFL draft advisory board
per @Warchant_DC
What are you glorifying with your life?
I think the lack of sacks might have hurt his evaluation.
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Uh, could this lead to more selfish play?
I don’t like that idea…
Yeah, don’t sack the qb, that’s selfish.
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by Marmaduke1 on Jan 5, 2012 1:38 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
I don't think it was the double teams that caused his lack of sacks
I think it was the Maple Street Press Cover jinx.
by Nolegrad89 on Jan 5, 2012 1:43 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
If that's a DE's sole intent it could definitely be selfish.
That was part of the problem in the last few years of Mickey’s defense.
So, aspiring to excellence and doing your job well is selfish?
We need a whole lot more selfishness on our team, then.
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by Dogrel on Jan 5, 2012 4:05 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Job isn't always to.get sacks, Atlas.
Shot a Gator in Jean Shorts just to watch him die.
by AMFKNole on Jan 5, 2012 4:37 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
No doubt,
But the point remains.
"My mistress is pooped, the reds have Oklahoma, and I'm going to bed."
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"In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. "
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My point=completely missed by you.
Being situationally smart is obviously better than being situationally dumb and makes you more valuable as a player. It follows that a selfish DE-wanting to be the best, most valuable player he can possibly be-would seek to become situationally smart, thus helping his team by NOT breaking contain and not giving up big plays.
To give you an idea of what I’m talking about, let’s take it out of the realm of abstraction and give the concept a face: Deion Sanders.
Deion Sanders in his heyday was obvioulsy and undoubtedly one of the most selfish players in all of sports history. But that’s not a knock against him-quite the opposite. In every single aspect of his role as a CB, his selfishness drove him to the pinnacle of achievement. He wasn’t going to let you get an edge on him and make him look bad-he was erasing the flaws in his own game while studying YOUR flaws so that come game day, he’s making YOU look bad.
And come contract renewal time, Deion let the front office know that he knew what he was worth and wanted them to pay it, too.
That’s the kind of selfishness I’m talking about.
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by harper.rb on Jan 5, 2012 6:14 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Good thing DJ is coaching him now. I wouldn’t worry about selfishness, he just turned down millions to return and help the team. And one of the reasons he was gonna go pro was to let Tank shine. Kid doesn’t have a selfish bone in his body.
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That was last year.
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what if they guy just wants to get his degree?
or loves playing college ball? or wants to experience being a senior, or thinks they have a chance to be a special team next year, maybe win a championship?
I totally understand kids leaving early, but I wouldn’t blame a guy for turning down first round money for another year in college either… that’s what I would do….
by garnetandgold on Jan 5, 2012 4:37 PM EST up reply actions
When there's a story about a Nole being arrested, Brandon is on my "Not one of these guys" list.
Great kid to have around.
Anyone know what the difference is
Between him and everette brown? I don’t think Brown is in football anymore..
Looks like Brown was picked up by San Diego to "help at LB"
Doesn’t sound good, but he’s still in football at least.
well, that's a good sign
All I saw was Carolina let him go quick and he was a huge bust. Hopefully a 2nd chance is all he needs.
by Cee on Jan 5, 2012 1:36 PM EST up reply actions
Everette is a lot smaller and not as good against the run I believe.
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Absolutely correct.
About 6’1, 250. Moved to Jack LB in 3-4 scheme. Best 1st step I’ve still seen from a Nole, but had no DE coach while here.
What are you glorifying with your life?
off topic
west virginia may pull out of our matchup due to conference realignment.. per twitter!!!
Kind of old news
WVU is in a legal battle with leaving the Big East in 2012. Conference wants them to stay until 2013.
IF, they get to go in 2012 I say we replace them with Akron!!
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And there was much rejoicing (hooray)
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by Dogrel on Jan 5, 2012 1:41 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
FSU has been trying to get out of this for a while
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You obviously aren’t gonna see:
Wait and see if we replace WVU with Towson! Don’t buy season tickets now!
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great for us -
less good for him , if youre looking at first or second round money, you take it, no questions asked.
Unless you were a second round prospect
That will be (arguably) the number 1 DE entering the next season. He could very well be a top 10 pick in 2013 as opposed to 33-64 in 2012.
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he may very well be the top college de entering next season
but he won’t be a top-ten pick unless he puts on another 20 + lb of pure muscle
(unlikely imo)
20+? You're crazy.
He could definitely be a top 10 pick with another solid season next year.
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There are some very good DEs that are < 280
Jared Allen
Jason Babin
Chris Long
Cliff Avril
Andre Carter
Most of those guys are < 270 and Carter is 255. All of those guys had 10+ sacks this year. I can see him going in the top 10-15 in 2013 with a good season and good combine. Speed rushers are at a premium.
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Dwight Freeney and Robert Mathis just sacked your mother for not being included on this list
by teter10 on Jan 5, 2012 2:03 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
LOL. I hate it was her but I'm glad it wasn't me.
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Trent Cole?
Elvis Dumerville?
I know Ware, Harrison, Suggs, Woddley, etc. are LB’s but they can still punish OT’s at <270
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if he is, indeed 6'3, 260 (as b elliot wrote above)
then he is at least 10 – 20 lb smaller than all the DE’s listed above
until mickey gets a gig as a coordinator, 260 is a linebacker in the league
and college DE’s who convert to LB are not drafted top 10 regardless of how many sacks they had in college…
Wrong
Peter Boulware played DE his entire career at FSU and was drafted 4th by the Ravens where he played his entire carrer at LB.
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yeah...gm's are eating up 260 college DE's to play as tweener lb's in the top 10 picks of the draft
well played..
Kamerion Wimbley's doing pretty good at Oakland as an LB
Guys can make the transition. As much as they play multiple looks in college now, it is not that big a leap as it used to be.
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Agreed that it is great for the Noles. It looks to me like he is a smart kid
who is taking a calculated risk to get better and raise his draft stock. I too wish him a healthy and productive season.
I hope that this is not Off Topic, but it does relate to his decision. Does this affect the recruitment of MEJ, CC or DF? Might any of them be concerned that that BJ’s decision reduces their prospects for early playing time? How much of their interest in the Noles has been as the result of the prospect of early playing time?
IMO experienced and good senior like BJ is better than any talanted freshmen
besides his play he can also help underclassmen to develop … we are a young team and could use sr. leadership
was he defensive captain this year already?
if not, don’t see why he won’t be next year. unless Joyner breaks knee in practice, of course.
I'd hate to see him get injured next season
BJ is a great player and a humble person … one of the guys that does everything right
Athletes like this have insurance policies in place for things like injuries
So even if he gets hurt, he’s still in for a big payday
??
pretty sure that would revoke amateur status, though I don’t know…
I'm pretty sure he is right.
They take out insurance polices on injuries.
They do, see Sam Bradford
he can get hurt and still earn a couple mill.
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It doesn't revoke amateur status
It’s an insurance policy which pays off in the event if a career ending injury. He’s not getting paid for playing.
by Todd F Packer on Jan 5, 2012 4:44 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I wonder what the evaluation of him was
The guys who play DE in college but are converted to 3-4 OLBs in the NFL can be boom or best, I wonder if that is hurting his stock.
by Jonathan Loesche on Jan 5, 2012 1:40 PM EST reply actions
Smarter football minds will know better than I do,
But I’ve heard he could use some technique polishing and learn to use his hands more.
Mike Harris
“… departing nickel corner..” wait what? What’s his deal or am I just reading this wrong?
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For some reason I was getting him confused with someone else. Any truth to the rumor mill of Greg Reid going? I can’t see him doing much in the NFL at his height except for a Devin Hester type return guy…
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Heard it was a possibility from someone in the program today.
Not so much that the NFL is a great option, but that his grades and some “other things” have him looking at the leaving for the NFL. Seems kinda like he’s not sure he’ll be eligible grade-wise or something for next year.
how could we know about his grades for fall?
not sure that makes sense
by ngm02 on Jan 5, 2012 2:54 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
more than grades, you have to be on track to graduate "on time"
it could be he has gotten good enough grades overall, but bombed a couple classes that are in his major that he would need to retake.
Wooooo!
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Any Chance?
That with the talent we have at DE (both on campus and coming soon) along with the loss of Nigel and BJ projecting as an 3-4 LB that we move him to LB. He was standing a lot more this year but I thought he was ineffective when that was the case. Just a thought.
I dont think so...
1. Too good with his hand in the dirt
2. I think that standing him up was more of a confusion thing then putting him in the nest position to make a play on the QB.
I think it was both.
Standing him up and moving him around was confusing the offense, but Stoops wouldn’t call the play if he felt it didn’t give his defense the best chance to be successful. Jenkins is probably better with his hand in the dirt, but he could be very successful in a position like the Jack LB spot at UF.
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Just think of a 4-2-5 with...
DE: Werner
DT: Dawkins
DT: Jernigan
DE: Carradine
LB: Jenkins
LB: Jones
CB: Rhodes
CB: Reid
S: Joyner
S: Brooks
S: Williams
Whatever we lose with Jenkins in pass coverage is easily made up by the 5 DBs (and Joyner can drop down into a LB spot given the circumstances). We might lose a bit of short yardage in the flats, but our DBs are more than capable of limiting big gains.
If we're putting only two LB on the field next year
I want them to be Jones and Smith
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by AMFKNole on Jan 5, 2012 4:39 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
NFL prospects right there. Jones is elite IMO.
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by pasadenanole22 on Jan 5, 2012 4:48 PM EST up reply actions
Awesome news.
G5 is pretty much a lock to stay IMO. This might help keep Rhodes around. But Rhodes really helped himself with his game against Floyd.
"Nothing like a tight one." -Heather Cox
Rhodes did play very tough against Floyd.
IIRC, he was injured and did not get back into the game. Is there any word on how severe his injury was?
Unfortunately
G5 seemed a little flat to me this season compared to last and I think his discipline and maturity are not quite there yet and he could use another year. Hopefully, he’ll use the time to become a better team player and role model instead of focusing on making big plays and his nfl draft stock.
Great news!
Hopefully G5 and XR27 stay as well.
Posted above too
but I heard from someone associated with the program that Greg is seriously considering leaving. When I asked why, I was told that it was something to do with grades. Not really sure, but it sounded kinda odd, like he wouldnt qualify for next season if he stayed or something. Not sure, just thought I’d share
spring and summer semester to straighten that out
by ngm02 on Jan 5, 2012 2:59 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
I think there's also a motivation factor
Kids his age aren’t thinking long-term—that he should bust his ass and get a degree while he’s getting free tuition—just that he wants to be in the NFL, sees himself in the NFL, can’t imagine anything else. I’m hoping he sticks around and gets his degree, but I don’t think he’s being illogical.
Brandon Jenkins
Walter Camp mock draft has him at #61 (mid second round), Drafttec Consensus has him at #74 (early 3rd) and FF Toolbox has him at #35 (early second).
His ranking seems to be anywhere between late 1st to early 3rd and a scouting report on him is. (Unlike the press and their AA selections, the NFL scouts are not blown away with big numbers…except possibly at the Combine).
“Jenkins has been a productive defensive end at Florida State for the past three seasons. He played in 12 games as a freshman and exploded as a sophomore in 2010. The Tallahassee, FL native was third in the nation with 13.5 sacks and fourth in the nation with 21.5 tackles for loss. Jenkins stats are way down this year; 29 tackles (6.5 tackles for loss) and 3.5 sacks through nine games.
Head coach Jimbo Fisher, for one, is not too concerned with Jenkins’ numbers. “If (Jenkins) will quit listening to the media and Mel Kiper and all those guys.… Because the NFL doesn’t care about numbers. They care about how you play. Just because you don’t have a sack doesn’t mean you’re not doing things right.”
Jenkins is doing things right and will likely continue to do so at the next level. He stands at 6’3’’ and 265 pounds after adding 15 pounds from his sophomore to junior campaigns. That alone will help his draft stock regardless of the drop in statistics. Jenkins generally runs in the 4.6s of the 40-yard dash. He is a good athlete, but not elite; makes himself lethal in the pass rush with a quick first step. Jenkins could move to outside linebacker in the NFL. Assuming he goes pro, Jenkins can be expected to go off the board early in round two. "
Similar to other reports but one thing many mention is his “tweener” status and not sure if he plays with a hand in the dirt or standing upright.
IMHO, if he gains weight (275+) and doesn’t lose his first step speed then he’s a mid first rounder next year.
by law74 on Jan 5, 2012 2:58 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
how much do you think he is affected by other FSU DE's looking impressive then really flopping in the NFL?
I know here in Charlotte, I don’t think a day went by when Everette Brown was being thrown under the bus as a bust and a poor move by Carolina. I think some of the NFL people have gained the mindset that FSU doesn’t have talent that really translates to the NFL anymore…
"What kind of addicting substance has Jimbo spiked the Tally water with?
It’s this new thing going around campus lately-I think it’s known by the term…"winning". I hear it’s really addictive and the real hardcore victory junkies can smell it from all the way across the nation."
by SmoothCrimiNole on Jan 5, 2012 5:26 PM EST up reply actions
There is some validity to the FSU linemen maybe overrated critique by personnel people
by FSU on Jan 6, 2012 2:16 PM EST up reply actions
Brandon Jenkins will never be 275.
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Darn...
I was really hoping Andy Reid would have drafted him even though its the last thing the Eagles need (I believe he is contractually obligated to draft unneeded positions)… that way when I’m freezing in Lincoln Financial Stadium next year watching a 7-9 at best season at least I could be wearing a Nole’s jersey again (Screw you Bunkley).
But as far as FSU goes, great news… I think next year is going to rule.
Eagles fan here too
So we share a double season of disappointment… haha… Actually, the Noles were somewhat disappointing, but a 9-4 season is much better than an 8-8, damn VY for opening his mouth. Hopefully in 2012, both teams will gel and achieve their expectations.
by FullTimeNole on Jan 6, 2012 7:35 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Yeah I got a lot of reading done this fall lol
I have higher hopes for the Noles next year than for the Eagles… Birds might have come together at the end, but those last 4 wins were against some suspect teams. Only after beating Miami, Dallas, NYJ and the Skins did their defensive stats rise up to top 10. And yeah our backup (at times 3rd string) QB doesn’t say those 2 stupid words things would have at least been a little less annoying… wouldn’t have to hear “yeah some dream team” after every loss.
No kidding
The D showed it could be good against its division rivals, but was very inconsistent against others(lost too many in the 4th). Maybe another year together will help? I know they signed some “dream” status free agents, who do you think will still be around next year?
by FullTimeNole on Jan 6, 2012 9:58 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
YES!!!!
The pain is coming Florida, Miami and Clemson. The pain is coming!!!! Great News
Happy for us, sad for him.
He is a good kid, I hope he makes a lot of money
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I hate this move.
HATE it.
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B Jenkins will do great in the NFL. imo.
Everything I observe about him strikes me a smart, calculated player who does what is best for his Team, and himself.
He is fast, and agile, yet rarely gets over aggressive. The NFL values this more than sacks. At least the guys who rate the draft. Most “Tweeners” can make them selves “Skinny”, shoot the gap, then become vulnerable to delay plays for huge gains…We are talking next level thinking.
In fact, there are more than a handful Young SMART high level thinking players that have a future as they “Think-Faster”, and “Hit-harder”, than their peers at the lesser schools. imo.
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