2012 Recruiting Discussion Thread #37
by DA-2 on Jan 9, 2012 10:13 AM EST
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PrintWelcome to the recruiting discussion thread. Please refer to the Recruiting Board for information on prospects. We are asking readers comment here instead of the recruiting board so that the recruiting board will load quicker. Feel free to talk recruiting news, rumor, information, etc. Amateurs and experts are all welcome. No question is too simple. Have a projected class? That's fine as well.
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Specific Player Questions (Check here before asking)
- Mario Edwards Jr.- Michael@TN reported that Edwards commitment to Florida State is again solid after the Unofficial Visit during the NC State 34-0 blowout. Edwards Jr will Official Visit Florida State on January 13.
- Dante Fowler- His recruitment has been very interesting. He's grown up a Florida State fan, but still has ties to Florida. He's taken multiple visit to Florida, including this summer when he was rumored to be leaning toward Florida. He also took in the beating Florida received from Alabama in early October. He's remained a Florida State commitment, but is scheduled to take official visits to University of Southern California, as well as Louisiana State. Those schools should not matter though, as he's been quoted as saying it's down to Florida and Florida State. His recruitment should be something interesting to watch.
- Dorial Green-Beckham- FSU is not in the race for this receiver from Missouri. His brother is very sick and he wants to stay closer to Arkansas. That means Oklahoma, Missouri, Arkansas, etc. Not FSU.
- Andrus Peat- One of the more intriguing players in this class. Although at first glance you question why a kid from Arizona with a brother at Nebraska would go to FSU, there is some interest here. Peat's grandparents surprisingly live in Tallahassee. FSU still isn't the favorite to get Peat, that's probably Nebraska, but it's not impossible for Peat to be a Nole come signing day. And there is no question that FSU would take him if he wants in. 1/4/12 update: Corey Long of ESPN.com is reporting he plans to visit FSU the weekend of January 20th.
- Jameis Winston- is a Nole. There's no talk of him switching to hometown Alabama. There's no visits scheduled to Florida State yet (that are known of), but there are none to Alabama either. No need to worry about this point.
Official Visits
1/13/2011
WR Nelson Agholor
OT Menelik Watson- Juco OT who has been playing football for only a year. One of the best athletes you will find on the offensive line, but is just learning the game.
DE Mario Edwards
QB Sean Maguire
TE Christo Kourtzidis
LB Markuss Eligwe
Note: Dr Krop Athlete Johnnie Durante and CB Colin Blake are working on setting up official visits. More info on Blake here
1/20/2012
OL Andrus Peat
LB Josh Clemons
Update 1/10
- Added the 2012 recruiting board.
- Florida State's minimum needs
Please keep in mind that it is unlikely all of these players will qualify. FSU is unlikely to enroll 25 players or anything like that.
QB Sean Maguire
QB Jameis Winston
RB Delmarick "Mario" Pender
WR Marvin Bracy
TE Christo Kourtzidis
1 RB/WR/TE
OL Daniel Glauser
OL
OL (Optional)
DE Dante Fowler, Jr.
DE Chris Casher
DE Mario Edwards, Jr.
DT Dalvon Stuckey
DT Justin Shanks
DL?
LB Markuss Eligwe
LB ?
DB P. J. Williams
DB (Optional)
1-2 DB/LB/DL
K Roberto Aguayo
P Cason Beatty
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2013 DT Caleb Brantley
My Dad runs a PAL league up in Palm Coast, so he’s around a lot of the athlete’s in the area. He told me this weekend that one of the DTs from Crescent City is telling everyone he got offered from FSU and wants to play there next year. His name is Caleb Brantley. I don’t know much about him although my Dad has watched him in person and says he’s a beast. One of his high school coaches is Pooh Bear Williams and I know Brantley camped at FSU last year. Here’s an article I found on ESPN about him:
DT Caleb Brantley, Crescent City (Crescent City, Fla.)
Although the 2011 season hasn’t been very good to Crescent City High, currently sitting at 1-6, the same can’t be said for their interior stalwart defensive tackle Caleb Brantley. Brantley, a 6-3, 295 pounder, has been a load for all of Crescent City’s opponents, and has been very productive, despite playing for a team with six losses.
"I am averaging over nine tackles a game," Brantley shared Wednesday. "Most of the teams we play like to run the ball, so I don’t get a chance to pass rush as much as I’d like. But when I do, you can count on me getting in the backfield. Despite our record, our defense rarely gets scored on."
Brantley holds an early offer from Florida State, but he told ESPNHS that he expects his recruitment to pick up once he gets his film out.
"Everyone is waiting to see how I play. I come off the ball hard, I never give up much ground, and I have a real nose for the ball. I’ve been working to improve my strength in the weight room. If I keep working like I do, I know I can be the best in the state."
He had impressive showing last spring at both the Orlando Nike Combine, where he made the all-combine team and posted an 84.24 SPARQ Rating on the strength of a 42-foot power ball toss, and also at the Florida State Nike Camp.
Good prospect. Definitely worth an offer.
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Sorry…just remembering what it was like to be in the stands when he scored one of his many 1-yd TDs…
Heard he's in......
Has been cleared for EE according to other reputable sites. Great news for us!
I think they would post that on the front page here if it was a done deal.
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by cerebralfish on Jan 10, 2012 11:11 AM EST up reply actions
Agreed.......
TN is the best, but 247 is no slouch…..and I believe it has been posted here as a done deal already.
Looks like you guys just got in the
Ron Darby game…..he just decommitted from ND and lists them, you and clemson as his choices.
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Yep, see article below this one.
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Thanks Bud
Enjoy your stuff. Roll Bama Roll is an excellent site, but they don’t really focus a lot on recruiting. Outsidethesidelines is the best Bama writer out there for information on the team. I like your recruiting info. What is the word on Jordan Jenkins? Are you hearing anything? He announces tonight before NCG at 7.
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Jenkins is close to the vest. Three schools think they ahve a shot!
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Georgia it is
Why is it every time I get 3 stars of police notoriety on GTA IV, Al Golden calls me asking for my commitment?
by Sir Lawrence J on Jan 9, 2012 8:13 PM EST up reply actions
http://blogs.ajc.com/recruiting/2012/01/09/jordan-jenkins-commits-to-uga-over-alabama/
"What kind of addicting substance has Jimbo spiked the Tally water with?
It’s this new thing going around campus lately-I think it’s known by the term…"winning". I hear it’s really addictive and the real hardcore victory junkies can smell it from all the way across the nation."
by SmoothCrimiNole on Jan 9, 2012 8:17 PM EST up reply actions
link fail
http://blogs.ajc.com/recruiting/2012/01/09/jordan-jenkins-commits-to-uga-over-alabama/
"What kind of addicting substance has Jimbo spiked the Tally water with?
It’s this new thing going around campus lately-I think it’s known by the term…"winning". I hear it’s really addictive and the real hardcore victory junkies can smell it from all the way across the nation."
by SmoothCrimiNole on Jan 9, 2012 8:18 PM EST up reply actions
cLumpSum is on his list?
Well, I hope their former TE Allen’s statement after the Orange Bowl will tighten those wads of cash up for the time being.
If life gives you lemons, go ahead and watch some FSU football.
I think he just went there for a visit
Roll Tide!
Anyway
to get an excel listing for the uncommitted prospects we are pursuing? Maybe sorted by biggest need
The next time we play UF 1,092 days will have passed since they have been able to hold our jock strap.
Jordan Jenkins
According to the insiders of both Gators and Georgia, he’s going to Alabama
We have room if that is what you mean
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meant to highlight the fact you guys are cleaning up real nicely. though it’s not ya’ll don’t year after year…
I see a similar trend
developing in Tally…..
Roll Tide!
I can only hope. But, not if we continue 4-loss seasons in a mediocre conference. I’ll reserve judgement after next year. Jimbo will have had 3 years of his recruits, his coordinators and his system in place. That’s enough time right? I appreciate your confidence though lol.
I still think the Noles are young
and injuries hit you guys really hard after the OU game. Jimbo is lighting it up on the trail. Truthfully I cringe everytime Craig latches onto an in state Bama kid. You guys are causing us more problems than the barn….I think you guys are going to be in the bcs hunt in 2 years if not next year.
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i think it will have to be next season as I don't see our staff staying together past that
the way Stoops is being offered from the Barn, I have no doubts he will be gone after next season.
"What kind of addicting substance has Jimbo spiked the Tally water with?
It’s this new thing going around campus lately-I think it’s known by the term…"winning". I hear it’s really addictive and the real hardcore victory junkies can smell it from all the way across the nation."
by SmoothCrimiNole on Jan 9, 2012 4:53 PM EST up reply actions
Tough to do when OOC is
USF
WV
UF
One patsy – Murray State
esp. with ACC scheduling.
Wouldn’t surprise me if they gave us VT & Clemson immediately preceding UF.
You mean after WV.
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by pasadenanole22 on Jan 9, 2012 7:51 PM EST up reply actions
grey shirts....Alabama loves that color.
"What kind of addicting substance has Jimbo spiked the Tally water with?
It’s this new thing going around campus lately-I think it’s known by the term…"winning". I hear it’s really addictive and the real hardcore victory junkies can smell it from all the way across the nation."
by SmoothCrimiNole on Jan 9, 2012 1:54 PM EST up reply actions
We didn't even sign a full
class last year….
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22 was the cap number for you guys from what I was told by a Bama source....of course all sources are hearsay until the truth is told.
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Tide has led for a long time in this one
but I have this strange feeling he is going to UGA or UF….
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No, hoping you are right (:
using reverse psych….
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How dare you try to change FSU fans pre-conceived notions...
…that all Bama fans are ignorant rednecks with your rational thought process and message board manners. Shame on you!
Have to try and get along
my kid may end up at FSU and then I have to make the leap to the Noles at least part time. (:
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sorry sir, we only take full time waggoners.
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Friendly reminder guys, this thread is all about recruiting
Please keep any speculative discussion about the 2012 season/record/expectations in the ongoing discussion thread. Thanks!
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by NoleThruandThru on Jan 9, 2012 1:49 PM EST up reply actions
Get a new source
We were all created to be Seminoles. This is why we bleed garnet and piss gold.
by NoleThruandThru on Jan 9, 2012 2:23 PM EST up reply actions
Nelson Agholor?
He lists us, he’s on the recruit board…any info on where he is going?
"What kind of addicting substance has Jimbo spiked the Tally water with?
It’s this new thing going around campus lately-I think it’s known by the term…"winning". I hear it’s really addictive and the real hardcore victory junkies can smell it from all the way across the nation."
bueller....bueller?...
"What kind of addicting substance has Jimbo spiked the Tally water with?
It’s this new thing going around campus lately-I think it’s known by the term…"winning". I hear it’s really addictive and the real hardcore victory junkies can smell it from all the way across the nation."
by SmoothCrimiNole on Jan 9, 2012 1:58 PM EST up reply actions
source? i have looked long and hard and so far seemed to be a ND kid.
"What kind of addicting substance has Jimbo spiked the Tally water with?
It’s this new thing going around campus lately-I think it’s known by the term…"winning". I hear it’s really addictive and the real hardcore victory junkies can smell it from all the way across the nation."
by SmoothCrimiNole on Jan 9, 2012 2:13 PM EST up reply actions
Will these type of jokes ever not be funny to me?
NOPE. Chuck Tesla.
I’m happy Agholor is here for the Big Weekend.
i must admit i giggled.
"What kind of addicting substance has Jimbo spiked the Tally water with?
It’s this new thing going around campus lately-I think it’s known by the term…"winning". I hear it’s really addictive and the real hardcore victory junkies can smell it from all the way across the nation."
by SmoothCrimiNole on Jan 9, 2012 2:28 PM EST up reply actions
UF
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by NoleThruandThru on Jan 9, 2012 2:23 PM EST up reply actions
Almost certainly not FSU. Look for UF or USC here.
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any further explanation?
"What kind of addicting substance has Jimbo spiked the Tally water with?
It’s this new thing going around campus lately-I think it’s known by the term…"winning". I hear it’s really addictive and the real hardcore victory junkies can smell it from all the way across the nation."
by SmoothCrimiNole on Jan 9, 2012 2:32 PM EST up reply actions
Honestly it's been that way for a while
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by NoleThruandThru on Jan 9, 2012 2:33 PM EST up reply actions
i guess that is why I haven't seen anything saying one way or the other.
just seems to be awfully quiet, and I’m sure we would love to have him.
"What kind of addicting substance has Jimbo spiked the Tally water with?
It’s this new thing going around campus lately-I think it’s known by the term…"winning". I hear it’s really addictive and the real hardcore victory junkies can smell it from all the way across the nation."
by SmoothCrimiNole on Jan 9, 2012 2:36 PM EST up reply actions
Further Explanation
He likes UF and USC better than he likes FSU
'Gentlemen, it is better to have died a small boy than to fumble this football.' John Heisman
by Nattylite on Jan 9, 2012 2:40 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
It means
While Agholor likes FSU, and FSU is in his top 5, he likes UF and USC a little better than FSU.. as in they would be a top 3 cut while FSU would probably not be.
I guess another way to put this would be, Nelson Agholor likes the University of Florida and the University of Southern California better than he likes Florida State University.
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by Nattylite on Jan 9, 2012 5:26 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Nattylite, are you sending a secret signal
or do you really mean Nelson Agholor likes the University of Florida and the University of Southern California better than he likes Florida State University?
My mock mock class.
QB-Jameis Winston- Will go the baseball route but after 4 mediocre years returns to FSU and wins the 2018 National Championsip as a 24 year old.
QB-Sean Maguire-Good size, good arm, underrated because of playing in a wing-T offense. Signs with FSU after a late push from the in-state school…I don’t get the Coker comparisons.
QB-Zeke Pike-Replaces Will Secord as the untalented 4th string QB on the team. Also replaces both of the guys who hold up towels to cover up Jimbo when he calls plays.
RB-Delmarick Pender-Top 5 RB. Explosive.
RB-Markuss Eligwe-Our top LB prospect wants to play RB. Coach Gran says he has the tools to be the next Ronnie Brown. Coach Hudson was unavailable for comment.
TE-Christos Kryzyzewski-Great blocker. Great hands. Loves “the noles.”
WR-Marvin Bracy-Very fast. A better version of Jeff Demps. One of the tougher kids to give a nickname to.
WR-This guy-http://foolishfans.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/Florida-Gator-with-Mullet.jpg
OL-Daniel Glauser-I’m very neutral on this Swiss.
OL-Ugly JUCO from something like College of the Colleges Near the Desert-Will never supplant resident bad*ss Josue Matias in the starting lineup.
OL-Joseph Scelfo- This years Austin Barron.
OL-Amos Lapp
LB-Reggie Northrup-FSU only flips him to take away Miami’s lone 4 star recruit.
ATH-Bud Elliott-Good prospect, bad grades. Will be a sign and place.
DB-PJ Williams-Versatile DB.
DB-Ronald Darby-Notre Dame stole 7 points against FSU in the bowl game so they stole their DB prospect.
DB-Mario Edwards Jr-Wants to follow in his father’s footsteps as an FSU DB. When asked about a 310 lb DB, Jimbo Fisher says if he has the quickness to play the position it doesn’t matter about his size.
DE-Dante Fowler Jr-Is still seen flirting with UF even after he faxes in his LOI.
DE-Chris Casher-Huge upside.
DT-Dalvon Stuckey-Depth chart? What depth chart?
DT-Justin Shanks-Seriously this D-line is outrageous.
DT-DRusso-Can play the 3-tech or the 5-tech but does not play techno.
P-Cason Beatty-Might play on the OL if he keeps growing.
K-Roberto Aguayo-Calls Sebastian Janikowski a p***y and gets away with it.
Goldman to Auburn. Peat to Nebraska. Muschamp asks Tracy Howard to sign one day after NSD so he doesn’t scare off Brian Poole. DGB to Arkansas.
by bobbysura on Jan 9, 2012 1:55 PM EST reply actions 11 recs
Goldman not going to the Barn
it is either Bama or FSU
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yeah its 50/50 right now Bama/FSU
I think FSU b/c of relationship with staff and current players/recruits
Your objectivity is refreshing sir.
Also a delusional cane fan “believes” they still have a shot. He’s a silent. I really need new friends.
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by Nole954 on Jan 9, 2012 2:31 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
The hammer hasn't even come
down on the “U” yet….can’t imagine a top shelf prospect like that going there right now….
Roll Tide!
did you watch the Army AA game? i think a few announced UM there... i was shocked..
"What kind of addicting substance has Jimbo spiked the Tally water with?
It’s this new thing going around campus lately-I think it’s known by the term…"winning". I hear it’s really addictive and the real hardcore victory junkies can smell it from all the way across the nation."
by SmoothCrimiNole on Jan 9, 2012 4:48 PM EST up reply actions
aren't those the same "local" kids we hunt?.. just sayin.
"What kind of addicting substance has Jimbo spiked the Tally water with?
It’s this new thing going around campus lately-I think it’s known by the term…"winning". I hear it’s really addictive and the real hardcore victory junkies can smell it from all the way across the nation."
by SmoothCrimiNole on Jan 9, 2012 7:35 PM EST up reply actions
that may also be true, hard to say that given they are playing at the all american game...
usually no slouches on those teams.
"What kind of addicting substance has Jimbo spiked the Tally water with?
It’s this new thing going around campus lately-I think it’s known by the term…"winning". I hear it’s really addictive and the real hardcore victory junkies can smell it from all the way across the nation."
by SmoothCrimiNole on Jan 9, 2012 8:17 PM EST up reply actions
They will always get some decent kids from S.Fla.
That’s just by default and doesn’t say anything about recruiting prowess. I guess the point is: top shelf prospects will not be flocking to UM due to sanctions. They will always get a few 4* from their backyard but it’s not like they are filling their class with them.
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No. He mean't DRusso
Who said he was talking about you? lol
Zeke Pike would be 6th string - not hapenin'
1. EJ
2. Trick.
3. Coker
4. Winston
5. Maguire
6. Pike
Flip flop Trick and Coker if you like. Don’t need or want 6 QBs on scholly.
IMO Bright future
Could end up as second string towel holder if chronic shoulder issues get resolved.
Well done sir, looks like another #1 OL recruiting class with Big Daddy Lapp in there
You did forget one huge signing- Justin Bright. Dude is so good Jimbo wants to sign him up for another 4 years of eligibility.
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by NoleThruandThru on Jan 9, 2012 2:25 PM EST up reply actions
WR-Marvin Bracy-Very fast. A better version of Jeff Demps. One of the tougher kids to give a nickname to.
I vote for Marvin “Brace for impact” Bracy. Or maybe that’s just the cold medicine talking.
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by freshcollegeboy on Jan 12, 2012 1:57 PM EST up reply actions
TSG.
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Marvin "hope you're wearing a knee" Bracy
by flash_kiley on Jan 12, 2012 11:42 PM EST via Android app up reply actions 1 recs
No - I thought we were revoking Winston's offer and going after Chad Kelly
At least, that’s what Chad Kelly thinks
Didn't someone say Bud Elliott has an ego problem?
If so, I’ll pass.
Heard he stole a Comadore 64 from an elderly gent.
by tuscaloosa-nole on Jan 9, 2012 4:20 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I heard it was a loaf of marble rye bread from an elderly women..
by CrimiNole Defense on Jan 9, 2012 4:40 PM EST up reply actions
It was the *entire* box set of "Murder She Wrote". In paperback.
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blong locks blowing the wind
The prime WR you mentioned above, will his locks flow freely, or will he braid them before playing?
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Goldman not going to visit Clemson?
can only be good things to rule out the fighting dabo$, unless the bag man is coming to him
What's up with Tracy Howard?
Haven’t been following much, so I apologize in advance.
imo atm he is favoring LSU. He even went as far to say he will decide on NSD unless his OV to LSU blows him away he might pull the trigger early
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Baton Rouge? And he questions Tallahassee?
I feel more like I do now, than I did before
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by HaveNoleOption on Jan 9, 2012 3:34 PM EST up reply actions
It is closer to Miami crime wise than Tally. Also it is a stone throw from one of the worst crime cities in the world
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I believe the interest in Darby says everything that needs to be said about Howard.
They gave it a good shot, but time for some emergency alternate options.
Good thing for us, we just happened to beat the team Darby was committed to in the bowl game and he played with a lot of FSU bound commits in the UA game.
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I interpret his comments regarding Tallahassee
to mean that there is too much familiarity there with friends and family from back home. I don’t think it has anything to do with the town itself or the Chamber of Commerce can fix.
Yeah, that line about pulling trigger if LSU was that good is pretty telling. He's LSU bound.
But there are still plenty of murmurs that he’s still talking a lot with FSU, our coaches met with him for 2 hours the other night.
Rooting for you guys on this one
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Guess the train of the thought that Goldman is down to 50/50 with FSU/'Bama has some legs. It appears he is canceling his visit to Clemson.
Link, or a reputable source? This is fantastic news. Thank you.
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by STAquinasNole on Jan 9, 2012 5:55 PM EST up reply actions
I take it you like Pender?
He is a beast and might just be the top RB in this class. That kid from Texas is special too though. That said, I think Pender is more of a Homerun threat than Johnathan Gray. I like BSJ’s shiftiness and Gray can grind it out but Pender imo is a threat to break a long one every time he gets a touch
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Not to mention Pender is probably the most important recruit for us in this class.
He is one of only 2 true HBs imo on this team. JWJ, Pryor, and Beverly are more FBs than HBs. I hope youre right!
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by cerebralfish on Jan 10, 2012 11:16 AM EST up reply actions
meh sorry my typing sucks! Let me try again (Bud please get an edit button lol)
Noles247 were the first (that I saw) to break the news.
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Pender
looks smaller than Devonte Freeman to me. Am I off?
He is listed 5'11 190lbs by ESPN and 6'0 210lbs on Scout
Pretty solid size for being 17. He is bigger than Freeman who is 5’8 200lbs
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Totally different body types
Freeman is more of a somewhat squatty Ray Rice type with thicker lower half while Pender is more taller and more streamlined. Registers as a Lamar Miller clone almost
by westcoastnolefan on Jan 9, 2012 8:08 PM EST up reply actions
Pender really could be the complete package that FSU really has never had in a RB. He is not undersized like most of our great RB’s have been, he is lighting quick and fast, and he is built well. To me he reminds of Clinton Portis alot when he came out of HS, only a little bit stronger.
He's bigger already then Clinton Portis was as an NFL rookie....
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yea, never mind all those first round RBs out of FSU
like Sammie Smith, Warrick Dunn, etc.
no, no complete packages out of FSU ever.
by Wild@Heart Nole on Jan 11, 2012 9:35 AM EST up reply actions
Complete means no aspect of your game/natural abilities/attributes can be heavily scrutinized
Production isnt the same as..
Control the Sunshine State & sooner or later you'll control the country.
What were Sammie Smith's problems while he was here?
Except for being screwed by the SEC reffing crew in the UF game and some fumbles with the Dolphins (which doesn’t count) he was the complete package. I believe that Greg Allen was a pretty fair running back too. Oh, and Amp Lee.
Those guys were pretty good.
Maybe you’re using “complete” in the Princess Bride sense—-Inconceivable!
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Can't be an EE and take an OV? j/k idk if he will be an EE, just what I have heard.
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Go Gatas just took 2 huge hits.
350 pound JUCO DT Visesio ‘Junior’ Salt switches his committment to Utah and Jordan Jenkins announced he is a Dawg today. Hopefully they score the trifecta, by Tracy Howard committing to LSU.
You mean Tracy Howard committing to FSU
by Tony Mustian on Jan 9, 2012 9:55 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
i think he means LSU
since it sounds like its LSU or FU at the moment with FSU on the outside. (this coming from prior posts in these recruiting threads)
No, its the "Anybody but Florida" strategy
kinda like, “Who are your two favorite team?” and the prudent person replies, “FSU and whoever plays the Gators.”
I understand the excitement for Pender, but really RB wasn't on the needs list,
rather see us get some big ugglies signed and in class specifically the O type.
"What kind of addicting substance has Jimbo spiked the Tally water with?
It’s this new thing going around campus lately-I think it’s known by the term…"winning". I hear it’s really addictive and the real hardcore victory junkies can smell it from all the way across the nation."
RB is on the neeeds list with Thompson a ? That leaves JWJ and Freeman. 2 is not enough to make it through a season usually
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agreed on JWJ, I think Lonnie could fit into that rotation as well. I'm not saying his a good pickup
i can’t tell since the footage I have seen on him was against suspect competition, Devonte Freeman looked amazing against 6a competition and was mildly successful this year. I guess I will just hope we get some big guys in here for the OL.
"What kind of addicting substance has Jimbo spiked the Tally water with?
It’s this new thing going around campus lately-I think it’s known by the term…"winning". I hear it’s really addictive and the real hardcore victory junkies can smell it from all the way across the nation."
by SmoothCrimiNole on Jan 9, 2012 10:17 PM EST up reply actions
i'm not say he's *NOT* a good pickup
"What kind of addicting substance has Jimbo spiked the Tally water with?
It’s this new thing going around campus lately-I think it’s known by the term…"winning". I hear it’s really addictive and the real hardcore victory junkies can smell it from all the way across the nation."
by SmoothCrimiNole on Jan 9, 2012 10:20 PM EST up reply actions
You mean watching Pender run wild like that
makes you suspicious of the competition. He is the real deal. If he learns pass pro I would not be surprised to see him lead the team in rushing this year
There was talk that Christian Jones played against suspect competition when we got him
You can tell good players irregardless of competition. Pender is good even with the teams he plays against.
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Jones team stunk,
but the competition was good. Lake Howell plays in a league that includes 2008 champ Seminole High (Ray Ray and Andre Debose), as well as Jeff Driskel’s H.S.
but the competition was good
Lake Howell plays in a league which includes 2008 champ Seminole High (Ray Ray and Andre Debose), as well as Jeff Driskel’s H.S.
This. He is ready to start as far as rushing right now
but as you mentioned he will need to learn the pass pro.
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by cerebralfish on Jan 10, 2012 11:18 AM EST up reply actions
JWJ imo was fgine. He had a nice YPC and was not given a true shot
Just like our Oline sucked vs ND in the 1st half but they ghot to learn and grow up in the 2nd. JWJ needs to given a true shot,
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No vision
Meaning, when there were holes to hit, he didn’t.
Shot a Gator in Jean Shorts just to watch him die.
by AMFKNole on Jan 10, 2012 8:59 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
I saw that too
and I don’t even feel like I’m good at evaluating these things. The couple of plays I saw him in, it seemed pretty obvious he missed the hole.
and Im sure not
one other running back did the same !## this year either…
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JT runs backwards for safety’s, Freeman puts it on the ground for TD’s…
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by Bud Elliott on Jan 10, 2012 10:09 AM EST up reply actions
And had Devonta dropped one all year? He was so broken up over doing that.
He really, really, got into himself for that. Great attitude and was in tears from what i’ve heard on the sideline.
He was still in tears after the game. That video from seminoles.com showed Jimbo going over to him and telling him that he had a great game and that he is a great football player
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by SteadfastNole on Jan 10, 2012 2:36 PM EST up reply actions
IF A RUNNING BACK SHALL FUMBLE, HE SHOULD GET NO MORE SNAPS FOR THE SEASON
OR SO DECLARES OCALANOLE
Wrong
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by Bud Elliott on Jan 10, 2012 10:26 AM EST up reply actions
Out of curiosity, you think a back like him can learn the patience to be successful in a zone blocking run game?
Clearly, he doesn’t get running between the tackles right now.
Will he ever progress to having the patience/vision to be a 1C guy?
experience always helps with this
I don’t believe there is some divine talent that some people have and others don’t and can’t
I feel something like that has to be just a light switch
You either get it or you don’t. And the day he gets it, he becomes a scary weapon
Vision
It’s something you have or you don’t. You can become a more patient runner when pressing the hole and allow blocks to set up, but vision that is a natural thing. Seeing a cut back lane before it even develops that is something the great ones are born with.
Have you seen those new Nike glasses developed by athletes to help boost their vision/response time? Just saying..
by CrimiNole Defense on Jan 10, 2012 11:20 AM EST up reply actions
I had a VISION for JWJ
It was as an AA LB
by SarasotaSeminole on Jan 10, 2012 8:27 PM EST up reply actions
Did you march into the wilderness with no food or water for this Vision Quest?
FSU, home of the Bandit! Enough said!
I respect you and westcoastnolefan's opinion
But I disagree with you guys on this to an extent. I’ve talked to running backs that have been tabbed as having poor vision early in their career, but later ran with better vision because “the game slowed down” to them. I do think vision is more of a natural thing, but it is something that can develop also. Will the coaches (and fans) have to patience to see if it develops for Wilder? Seems unlikely on the fans part based on comments, but the coaches may.
I think vision can improve incrementally with enough reps (Reps help with patience)
the game can gradually slow down for a back and they can simply respond to “color” once they get the ball (They can either run away from it or run over it depending on the size/skillset of the back). Thing is JWJ just never struck me as being a good fit for a zone blocking one cut type of system. He’s more of downhill power-type runner in the Larry Johnson or Brandon Jacobs mold as opposed to an agile back back with true one cut agility (Shady McCoy, Lamichael James types). Not meaning to stereotype backs due to the height and weight so I’ll point out that there are bigger backs who could perform well as one cut runners as well (Arian Foster and Columbus HS RB Brandon Radcliffe). Thats probably a bigger worry with me in regards to JWJ than the vision aspect, to be honest
by westcoastnolefan on Jan 10, 2012 10:36 PM EST up reply actions
Not sure
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by Bud Elliott on Jan 10, 2012 11:03 AM EST up reply actions
No. Running the ball is an instinctive action. Cannot TEACH vision.
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haha. not ture.
good movie tho, i think about it every time my dog looks up
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I agree you are born with it. Which JWJ's dad was an NFL RB
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by NOLEFAN1 on Jan 11, 2012 10:12 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Nature
versus nurture, Lodge, nature always wins
by Airboat Nole 220 on Jan 11, 2012 2:28 PM EST up reply actions
So you are saying we should offer Deion Jr?
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did Deion JR.
Do anything in The UA game? I didn’t watch much of it, I saw winston and some others do really good
by thornole on Jan 12, 2012 12:23 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
All he did was get burned
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by freshcollegeboy on Jan 12, 2012 2:56 AM EST up reply actions
gave up the first, big td (77 yards)
but did make a few pass breakups later
he has to be un-high-schooled
that head down, eyes closed, legs a pumpin’ stuff doesn’t work in Division 1. he was just such a beast in high school I think he never learned how to run.
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by fmnole on Jan 11, 2012 8:55 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Do you sometimes rec things that are average points, or even below average?
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by RollNole5 on Jan 11, 2012 4:17 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
Hahaha
Rec. For the brilliance of the question.
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Do you rec for lack of brilliance of a question?
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by SteadfastNole on Jan 11, 2012 5:21 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
The answer is yes…however, in an effort to be pleasant and let someone know WHO rec’d the comment, and why, I decided to expound.
So basically you look like a smart ass while I’m trying to be cordial.
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So basically you look like a smart ass while I’m trying to be cordial.
Yes, that was the point. It was both a facetious and rhetorical question. Didn’t think that it would ruffle your feathers so.
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I think I managed to follow up with a more smart assish comment, my bad Mr. Corn
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It didn't ruffle me actually.
You’ve been here long enough for me to know you more than likely weren’t serious.
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Ive seen a few people say Pender officially got in as an EE per reputable sources.
You guys at TN are my reputable source and I still see nothing about it here so…..is this stuff just rumors at this point still Bud?
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by cerebralfish on Jan 10, 2012 11:24 AM EST up reply actions
It’s legit. I have not got a text back from someone in admissions, but Josh reported it so I believe him.
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by Bud Elliott on Jan 10, 2012 11:33 AM EST up reply actions
ok thank you.
This just in! My reputable source says Pender to FSU official!
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by cerebralfish on Jan 10, 2012 11:36 AM EST up reply actions
Will you put an official
Pender EE status report up when you get your text?
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by cerebralfish on Jan 10, 2012 3:12 PM EST up reply actions
If I get it tonight I’ll mention it in tomorrow’s ’Noles News.
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What about Eric Beverly?
Is he viable option?
x2?
Will Bev be a sleeper or does he strictly fit the Lonnie mold and if so do ya’ll reckon he’s aware of this?
FSU, home of the Bandit! Enough said!
RB was definitely on the need list
Second behind the o line
by TheRenegade29 on Jan 9, 2012 10:09 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
C'mon Rhodes!
If your staying why couldn’t you at least get Travell to come to Tally!? Lol
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Wiston on Twitler
UnleashthaBeast Jameis Winston
The winner of this game will get a Christmas present
Sounds like he wants to commit to Alabama
I was about to post this
He also wrote….
Well I didn’t say what the Christmas present was stop jumping to conclusions people lol but Ay #neverknow
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Isn't he visiting FSU this weekend or soon? He mentioned it at the UA practices. This visit will solidify him imo as an FSU lock
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by FSUIZZY on Jan 10, 2012 1:00 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
The dynamite has already gone boom like 100 times.
Winston is solid.
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Sounds like the XMas present is a good ass-wooping from FSU
by NoleLaw on Jan 10, 2012 9:19 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
He will Troll Bama fans till February
Right now JW flipping is the least of my worries. I bet we hear 3 more rumors of him flipping before signing day. It will all be made up.
Also
February can’t come soon enough..
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by FSUIZZY on Jan 9, 2012 11:41 PM EST reply actions 3 recs
1/13
anyone have the ability to post a complete visitors list for this weekend? thanks
this doesnt include darby, as well as any other additions. just didnt know if it was up to date. thanks to those that contribute so much to this site.
Think Winston is supposed to be there are well
and that Fowler moved his visit to that date to help recruit. It may also be that other Noles visit that day too in order help recruit. I assume fsu419 isn’t specifically asking about official visitors.
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How many of these 2013
skill players do we land?
WR Marquion Lane
WR Stacey Coley
WR Jordan Cunningham
RB A.J. Turman
RB Fred Coppett
QB Kevin Olsen
QB Johnathan McCray
Way too early for anyone to give a serious projection.
Not sure FSU even wants Coppett
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by Bud Elliott on Jan 10, 2012 10:27 AM EST up reply actions
i was about to say, let 2012 happen geez!
"What kind of addicting substance has Jimbo spiked the Tally water with?
It’s this new thing going around campus lately-I think it’s known by the term…"winning". I hear it’s really addictive and the real hardcore victory junkies can smell it from all the way across the nation."
by SmoothCrimiNole on Jan 10, 2012 2:25 PM EST up reply actions
Interesting note about importance of recruiting
I just looked up rivals rankings for the last couple of years. Alabama has 3 number 1 classes in the last 4 years (1,1, 5,1). LSU had 4 top 7 classes in the last 5 years. Coincidence that they were both playing last night?
by newdynastynole on Jan 10, 2012 10:20 AM EST reply actions
Not at all
ESPN had LSU and Bama 1 and 2 in the 2009 class rankings
I think Boise State has something to say about that.
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except that vt gets plenty of quality players
and they seldom compete w/ the big boys or churn out a disproportionate amount of nfl talent…
They get GOOD recruits.
They don’t get ELITE recruits.
i don't keep up w/ vt too closely
but i know theyve basically owned the 757 area code for some time -
the vick brothers, tyrod taylor and logan thomas were all 5* iirc
1 5* doesn't make a whole team.
Unless you’re Auburn.
If Miami played their schedule they’d look great too.
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Miami area has a lot of under rated players
Has always been this way. Undisciplined, grade problems, etc, but very good athletes. Miami (pre Shala) never had anyone not play due to grades. I haven’t kept up with it lately.
Yes and under rated players are great as add ons
Basing your class around it is not a great idea. With recruiting services being what they are it’s harder and harder to under rate players. It’s not like in the “olden” days when there was only one or two places you could go to get recruiting information. It’s big business now.
Not recently. They’ve started taking a lot of average players.
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haha
Rivals has Bama 1 and LSU 2 in that same year :)
by newdynastynole on Jan 10, 2012 10:24 AM EST reply actions
In retrospect Rivals got it right
I think ESPN over rated Sheppard and Randle
I think LSU has massively underutilized Sheppard and Randle
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by freshcollegeboy on Jan 10, 2012 1:25 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Completely agree.
All Miles could come up w/ last night was forcing bubble screens to them, while Alabama’s C/LB’s shedded the WR blocks like they were 1st graders. Pretty pathetic.
Alabama’s defense was dominant last night, but I thought the overall performance (Game Plan AND Execution) from LSU was pretty awful
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Sheppards postgame tweet summed it up
LSUShep10: OMG I played 3 plays….
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by freshcollegeboy on Jan 10, 2012 3:22 PM EST up reply actions
Seems like LSU was expecting another field goal fest
And what they got was a kick-in-the-ass fest.
by FSUActuary on Jan 10, 2012 4:12 PM EST via mobile up reply actions 2 recs
Naaaa Randle and Shepard are great talents
But this isnt the first time LSU has underutilized skill players….Terrance Tolliver comes to mind…and in their defense look @ their QB and off coordinator issues they have had the past 3 years….both would start @ FSU and any other school in the nation….Shepard is a poor mans Percy Harvin, and Randle is sure handed, a great route runner, and has exceptional speed
Michael any chance we go after former
OU commit De’Vante Harris? Seems like a strong corner. Would be a good fit. IMO
I would imagine Petrino is leaning on him pretty hard
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by NoleThruandThru on Jan 10, 2012 1:58 PM EST up reply actions
WR is definitely not a need this recruiting cycle.
by zewhitedevil on Jan 10, 2012 2:21 PM EST up reply actions
True that.
We have this awesome, mature prospect named Willie Haulstead that will be joining us next year. ;)
And this track guy named Bracy...
Looked very much like a football player at the U2 game to me.
by zewhitedevil on Jan 10, 2012 3:22 PM EST up reply actions
How many also forget...
About a certain 6’6 beast we have named Kelvn Benjamin?
If by beast you mean project
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by NoleThruandThru on Jan 10, 2012 5:36 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
The project got props from Howard as the toughest WR he had to cover in his HS career
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Cool.
I’ll take our coach’s opinion over howard’s
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by NoleThruandThru on Jan 10, 2012 6:19 PM EST up reply actions
Did they really call him a project? I though it was academic issues that forced a redshirt?
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heard that he was either lazy or just didn't get it.
maybe a combination?
He looks kind of lazy in some of his HS film. I believe some of us on TN said at the time of his commitment that he lacked a killer instinct.
Lazy/motivation issues, academics, conditioning concerns, and not understanding the nuances of the position
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by NoleThruandThru on Jan 10, 2012 9:06 PM EST up reply actions
So why exactly was he offered a scholarship?
pure potential alone?
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by Blue Horseshoe on Jan 11, 2012 11:04 AM EST up reply actions
Getting another recruiting win over UF might also have been part of it
We had the momentum going our way with Waisome committing and Jernigan talk heating up.
Maybe would have been different if we were stealing him from South Carolina or something.
We have the WR depth to be able to wait for him to develop
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by NoleThruandThru on Jan 11, 2012 12:44 PM EST up reply actions
Because when a 6'6" receiver develops
it’s worth the wait
I sure hope so
Benjamin could be awesome
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by NoleThruandThru on Jan 11, 2012 4:14 PM EST up reply actions
He’s not close to contributing.
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if so,
sounds like Jimbo and company made a rare evaluation mistake.
Dogs bark in the night but the caravan moves on.
They knew what they were getting
We have the WR depth to allow him time to develop.
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by NoleThruandThru on Jan 14, 2012 1:27 PM EST up reply actions
HS ain’t college.
My photo appeared in the Nightlife photo collage of the FSView for six weeks in-a-row. That’s who I am.
I realize that but the kid must have been decent for Howard to bring up his name a year later is all I am saying
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Oh yeah, in HS
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by Bud Elliott on Jan 11, 2012 10:25 AM EST up reply actions
REC
RS Junior before we see anything out of him, if ever. Never really that high on him. Just think he was hyped to due to his size and height coupled with he was 18 or 19 playing against kids 2 and 3 years younger than him.
by SarasotaSeminole on Jan 10, 2012 8:34 PM EST up reply actions
Is anyone even sure if haulsted is even coming back
by TheRenegade29 on Jan 10, 2012 5:18 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
My guess is no.
That’s purely speculation, but the evidence seems to point in that direction. He suffered the concussion almost a month before the regular season. You have to figure that the decision to redshirt him wouldn’t have been made until at least week five or six, at which point it would make sense for him to use a shirt on him rather than use him for > half a season. At that point its obviously a very serious issue, and the fact that he was never even able to come back and practice with the team, he obviously was still feeling the effets during bowl practices. That’s a very bad sign IMO..
by Widespread Seminole on Jan 10, 2012 11:32 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Well that's what I thought too
But everyone says he’s comin back I was wondering if I missed something
by TheRenegade29 on Jan 11, 2012 3:19 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Definitely
In one of the post-practice interviews with Jimbo during bowl practice, he said that Haulstead was fully recovered and fully participating in practice. He also said (and I am paraphrasing) that it was pointless for him to burn the redshirt for one bowl game.
It’s Jimbo Speak. They have no idea how he’ll react when he gets hit.
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Good god that must've been a hit.
I’ve never heard of a concussion sidelining someone for a year. I know that there is more awareness and caution these days, but still…
Wonder how LJ feels about potentially ending Haulstead’s playing days.
It’s his second.Clemson 2010 was his first that we know of.
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awesome news if true!
I don’t remember seeing that but if he has been practicing and staying in shape, our WRs could be really nasty as a unit next year, although they may be without help from Willie.
by Widespread Seminole on Jan 11, 2012 4:00 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
No, but I would still take Gardner without hesitation
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by NoleThruandThru on Jan 10, 2012 3:19 PM EST up reply actions
yep
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by freshcollegeboy on Jan 10, 2012 3:22 PM EST up reply actions
that's really too bad
he’d be a nice one to swing. Has he signed his LOI?
perhaps,
but it is yet to be faxed in to Arky officials
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by freshcollegeboy on Jan 10, 2012 3:23 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
If he has then he can't come here if someone else knows about it
See Markish Jones
by nolesblogger on Jan 10, 2012 4:12 PM EST up reply actions
ahhh, Markish Jones
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by NoleThruandThru on Jan 10, 2012 5:08 PM EST up reply actions
Michael seems to be in regular contact with him, would like it if he could help put with this one
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Personally I hope he doesn't come (and have been hearing that)
I think if he comes, it would only be for a free trip and to recruit for the Hogs.
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Wish List
Does anyone think there will be any big surprises, to the good, for FSU this year in recruiting? If we hold together this class, who would be the one guy most wished for that is not listed as a commit?
Several
Eddie Goldman, DT
Andrus Peat OT
Nelson Agholor, Athlete
Gardner WR
Goldman, Peat, Darby. If we close with that I'd be over the moon
(assuming everyone committed to us remains committed.)
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Darby and Peat would be amazing surprises
I expect Northrup in this class
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by NoleThruandThru on Jan 10, 2012 9:07 PM EST up reply actions
Peat would amaze me.
Where does Darby look to be going? Don’t know much of anything about his recruitment.
I think we have a legit shot with Darby.
He and Bracy are friends (future roommates)
He wants to run track.
He's very much in play like uni said
Just awesome that he dropped ND, and great timing with the Howard situation.
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by NoleThruandThru on Jan 10, 2012 9:36 PM EST up reply actions
Peat, Goodman, Goldman, Howard/Darby, Northrup
yes, Algholor would be ridiculous but he’s not likely
Championship!
Goodman over Goldman?
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Honestly, I’d be surprised if that’s not everybody’s one guy, considering the single most painful topic we’ve discussed all year.
It's not hard for me,
where is the largest gradient between what we have and the players we’re talking about? At Peat’s position.
If I thought Peat would come in and play immediately maybe.
If we don’t get Darby, then my top want would be Howard.
Biggest need right now for this class is at LB.
By order of position considering the guys in play, I’d say:
DT – Goldman
CB – Darby/Howard/Blake
LB – Northrup/Clemons
RB – Davis?
OL – Latu, Peat, Watson
If you just consider positions, then our needs are:
LB (thinnest depth on the team)
OL (simply b/c we don’t have any freshmen in this class yet)
RB (second thinnest depth on the team)
TE (Since Court was talking about potential flip to Cal and all we have left are Tye and NOL)
While I would LOVE, LOVE, LOVE to have Goldman
I in no way, shape, or fashion think he is a “need” for this recruiting class.
He is the icing on the cake.
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We need Peat but I think he will ends up at Nebraska
But I am really starting to think Nelson Agholor is Fsu bound.
Aggy is all UF right now
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by NoleThruandThru on Jan 10, 2012 9:08 PM EST up reply actions
When a kid like Agholor
refers to Marcus Maye as his “big brother” then…………………..
by westcoastnolefan on Jan 10, 2012 10:38 PM EST up reply actions
Pretty sure Peat wouldn’t start for FSU. And I agree he’s Nebraska bound. Trusts his brother a lot. Interview already done, just need to transcribe.
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They need him, class rankings-wise.
On Comcast Sports South last night they spent a little time discussing how incredibly poorly Nebraska’s recruiting is this cycle. This is largely due to a small class, but also due to poor quality, so far. I have a hard time believing they won’t pull some folks in at the last minute, beginning with Peat and including at least some 3-star-ers, to improve their position. They’re still walking down the ballroom steps to join the dance in the Big 10 and that’s got to be exciting, though that Pelini seems like a loose one…
Is it that poor? Seems just very small.
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by Bud Elliott on Jan 11, 2012 10:27 AM EST up reply actions
Yeah, you're right.
I just went to look at the class and ESPN ratings and it looks like a typical Nebraska class, miniature version. Perhaps all they were saying was that it’s small. Weird, though, that they featured on the show 3 teams that were notably kicking butt by their standards and 3 that were sucking fumes by theirs. NU was one of the ailing ones. Hmmm.
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by pasadenanole22 on Jan 10, 2012 8:11 PM EST reply actions 3 recs
Just the vibe i'm getting lately. He enjoys all the love from Fsu fans on his facebook but whenever people post something about Uf he shakes it off.
And IMO if UF really did lead why didnt he publicly come out and say so after his Dec. 9th offical visit and He is visiting Fsu when basically the whole class is coming in (Friday the 13th,ironically ) so there will be a positive vibe that will be hard to say no to.
FSU’s people do not feel good about Nelson. Maybe that changed this weekend.
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by NoleThruandThru on Jan 10, 2012 9:08 PM EST up reply actions
Any idea where Darius Hamilton ends up?
His final 4 on rivals are cal, uf, miami, and rutgers. Instinct says he stays in state, but any chance he goes to uf or miami?
Really think Rutgers
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So when is Dante F. going to get his 5th star back cuz he killed it at the U.A game as well the combine...
by FearThaSpearWeAreFSU on Jan 11, 2012 1:46 AM EST reply actions
If he was a UF or Alabama commit
he would already have gotten it. We can’t get any respect…
by flash_kiley on Jan 11, 2012 2:22 AM EST via Android app up reply actions 2 recs
He has serious maturity issues and losing the fifth star was well deserved. Does a week at UA make it back? Maybe so.
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Am I the only one who sees Casher as being the best DE from this class?
Seems like MEJ doesn’t have the speed/explosion that Casher and Fowler do…but it seems like Fowler’s maturity issues will hold him back.
From what I've seen,
me, too. He seems like a truck with a taste for deer.
by SolidNole on Jan 11, 2012 10:12 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Rawsome. simply rawsome.
I salute you, Sir.
by Widespread Seminole on Jan 11, 2012 4:04 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Mario and Casher tied, I think. Incredibly impressed with the week Casher had. Nice kid, too.
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by Bud Elliott on Jan 11, 2012 10:28 AM EST up reply actions
Just as important, he took off the year to bring up his grades. He may not be smart, and I certainly don’t know the kid to comment on him like that, but he seems very mature for his age and knows what’s important for his future.
That's what they say - but he wasn't allowed to play because of transfer rules. He transferred to improve his grades, though.
Sr year HS isn’t important if you don’t qualify
I've been saying that for a while
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I’ve said it for a while +1.
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I never said it...
but I am going to begin to say it to be like you guys.
Dogs bark in the night but the caravan moves on.
MEJ
Not everyone has to be J. Pierre Paul. MEJ first step isn’t top tier but it ain’t to shabby either. It is rare to find a kid that size who is that athletic. We will probably trim some of that bad weight off of him within a year, which will help with his quickness, and he will still have a nasty bull rush and very good moves/technique. He just looked a little heavy at the UA game. Does anyone here doubt that Vic will have him in the best possible condition? I doubt that.
by DoubleNickel on Jan 11, 2012 12:05 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
It seems as if the Pease hire
At UF has really impressed recruits. Diggs is indicating that’s where he is headed and their insiders have more confidence than ever in landing NA. Here’s to hoping 1/13 is outstanding.
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Fully confident they’ll land Nelson.
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by Bud Elliott on Jan 11, 2012 10:28 AM EST up reply actions
OV's on the 13th
I’ve scene on twitter that PJ Williams, Bracy, Legget, Leonard, and Stuckey are all coming, and others.
Hope this is true.
Reminds me of an interview I heard from one of our players (sorry, can’t remember now who it was) back in the late 90s in pre-game coverage in which he told the story of the recruiting cycle that he was a part of in which a large chunk of the players in the FL/GA all star game got together and decided not to go to different places, but to concentrate their talent to try to win the big one. According to him, a large number of them had an informal meeting in one of their hotel rooms to decide which of the Big 3 they would all commit to. Seem to recall it was like four or five of them that did. Kills the story that I don’t have names, but I swear on the 50 yard line that I saw and heard it. Seems this is a similarly perfect storm. If only…
vaguely recall that
Believe it was the Deion, Sammie Smith, etc. class of ’85. I was at the Georgia/FSU Citrus Bowl game in late ’84 and I remember them announcing the players from that all-star game in the pre-game (Sammie looked huge running on the field). Seems we came away with much more than a tie on that bowl trip!
Remember that interview also
Think it was Derrick Brooks
Poll Question
Which one the following 2011 signees will make the biggest impact on the field next year and why?
Lamarcus Brutus
Tyler Hunter
Keelin Smith
Giorgio Newberry
Nile Lawrence-Stample
Derrick Mitchell
Terrance Smith
Ruben Carter
Sterling Lovelady
Trey Pettis
Jacob Coker
Eric Beverly
Kelvin Benjamin
If I had to pick one from this list for next year it would have to be Terrance Smith with Tyler Hunter running a close second. Both will have opportunity as CB and LB are a tad thin on the two deep next year and both were guys I really liked coming out of HS more so than some of the other guys on the list.
Nothing but a hunch here...
I’d go with Terrance Smith and Tyler Hunter. I think Smith will be a monster on special teams next year and get some reps at LB. I could see Hunter being. our 3rd corner over Waisome next year.
by Albany_Nole on Jan 11, 2012 10:38 AM EST up reply actions
Did Hunter practice all year at corner or safety?
He’d be a pretty stout corner given his size/strength
by FSUNOLES90210 on Jan 11, 2012 10:41 AM EST up reply actions
I like Keelin Smith's size for a DB. I also really liked Mitchell and Stample in HS
GO NOLES!!! SCALP EM!
where Mitchell and Stample-Lawrence fit in?
DT is loaded, especially with Jacobi coming back, if he does. Anyone know the status of his recovery?
by DoubleNickel on Jan 11, 2012 12:07 PM EST up reply actions
I would say Sterling Lovelady
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by NoleThruandThru on Jan 11, 2012 11:07 AM EST up reply actions
Hard question
I think we’ll see Brutus, Hunter, and Smith rotate in the secondary a bit.
As much as it pains me to say this, I’m going w/ Coker. EJ will inevitably go down w/ and injury, and hopefully we’ll get a chance to see him get some game reps.
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It was more Gnomeish than trollish, but I see where you could of been going there.
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I had high hopes.
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My apologies
Im not sure which way you wanted to troll, but if it helps
HE IS EXTREMELY INJURY PRONE!
And thats not trolling, the guy gets hurt all the time, I dont care how freakish the injuries are. :)
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by HaveNoleOption on Jan 12, 2012 11:13 AM EST up reply actions
Josue Matias
Nobody on that list starts in 2012.
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I think that was the point of the question.
Which non projected starter, under the radar, soph/RS Frosh is gonna contribute the most in 2012. That’s why Matias was not given as an option. We know he will contribute more then anyone else on that list.
more of a hb i think
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by stevegrizzle on Jan 12, 2012 11:43 AM EST up reply actions
Extremely doubtful
Supposedly he’s already recruiting mike Davis to Georgia
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by NoleThruandThru on Jan 11, 2012 11:07 AM EST up reply actions
This is a complete guess but I think Clemons chose not to come to FSU based on the
character of the current guys from Lowdnes that are at FSU.
by Albany_Nole on Jan 11, 2012 11:10 AM EST up reply actions
any chance
that Gerald Demps will play more?
by FSUNOLES90210 on Jan 11, 2012 11:12 AM EST up reply actions
Its been discussed heavily on other sites that he doesnt like/get along with Telvin and Greg Reid.
by jenolesone on Jan 11, 2012 11:28 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Yeah, I've read rumors about that too
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by NoleThruandThru on Jan 11, 2012 12:45 PM EST up reply actions
Any news of Pender on campus?
He supposedly EE’d and classes started today right?
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allegedly.....
Very difficult to get firm information on this kid for some reason. I still have ulcers.
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by cerebralfish on Jan 11, 2012 1:02 PM EST up reply actions
relax he’ll be G&G regardless
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We need him to EE imo.
I think he’ll be in G&G, but we need him ready to contribute next year as we are ultra thin at true HB. We have Freeman and a bunch of FB style guys. I dont see Thompson playing and if he does he wont be the same. Beverly, JWJ, and Pryor are not true HBs.
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by cerebralfish on Jan 12, 2012 10:34 AM EST up reply actions
Did Pender ever make it to school today?
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by cerebralfish on Jan 12, 2012 4:30 PM EST up reply actions
Gator fans on ESPN
claiming Gators are going to close with the #1 class in the country….any way that happens? Curious what you guys think.
Roll Tide!
2 things
First of all, it’s the ESPN message board.
Secondly, it’s a Gator fan…
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by Nattylite on Jan 11, 2012 12:29 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Thanks for the clarification
What do you think about the question I asked?
Roll Tide!
by mobilematt12 on Jan 11, 2012 12:35 PM EST up reply actions
I think most Gator fans are silly, especially the ones on ESPN.
Alligator Army guys are the exception.
But…. if I have to be serious, I’d say Alabama finishes #1 hands down.
UF has a solid class, and there might be a chance… but I don’t think there are enough bodies left on the board that they are in line for that could push them over.
Agholor and Howard being the obvious pickups, but that still only gives them 10 ESPNU 150s. You guys are chilling at 12 currently with room for more.
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Yessir
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Well...looking at it closer...
Texas’ is equally as good. I’m not as familiar w/ their commits because they’re out of our neck of the woods, but they look pretty nasty as well.
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Im not sold on Texas' class this year or any other.
If all these Texas classes were that good, they would have more than 1 title in the last 60 years. I think many of their recruits may be 4* players in the Republic of Texas, but 2* or 3* when compard to the rest of the country. Not trying to imply that UT doesn’t bring in many talented players, or that Texas as a state doesn’t produce tons of D1 talent. Just think that half of their recruits become 4* players the day they committ to UT, which is usually before the end of their junior years in HS.
by Widespread Seminole on Jan 11, 2012 4:12 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
If all these Texas classes were that good, they would have more than 1 title in the last 60 years.
Agree to an extent. Its more about Mack Brown and his staff (which he’s changed) wasting talent.
Im not sold on Texas’ class this year
Disagree. This class is miles better than the last 2 or 3.
Their classes have always been at least above average. They didn’t recruit a good RB between Jamaal Charles and last years #1 RB Malcolm Brown. Nor did they recruit a good QB between Vince Young and Garrett Gilbert. Colt McCoy was never supposed to be the guy (obviously ended up being good) in that cycle, Ryan Perilloux was but was gobbled up by Jimbo at LSU. And Garrett Gilbert may have set them back 3 or 4 years (not necessarily Mack’s fault but should shoulder some of that blame for not having a backup plan).
Texas also had a run of dubious hires (HCs & position coaches)… They “thought” they were getting Saban before Saban when they hired John Mackovic (Button down, process-oriented all business guy) and it was a horrific fit.
Being HC at Texas is a much about the football as it is the culture. I think Bama is too, but I also think they were so desperate at that point … They didnt care Saban wasn’t “touchy feely”
Love the use of "touchy feely" in the same sentence as Saban.
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by pasadenanole22 on Jan 11, 2012 6:28 PM EST up reply actions
I totally concede UT's class looks REALLY good this year.
But I pretty much always feel that way around signing day about UT. Obviously they are lacking in coaching talent/player development as you and FSU mentioned above.
Regardless of the reasons for it, I think they are trending down as a program and will probably continue that way on the field until there is positive change at the top. See also: FSU 2001-2008.
by Widespread Seminole on Jan 11, 2012 8:41 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
No doubt. Definitely had that “lost decade” feel over there the last two years, but unfortunately for those of us that hate the shorthorns, Mack cut ties with his staff before it was too late (Manny Diaz is awesome). With that being said Bobby never had a 5-7 season like Mack did when things started going south.
Their wish list is
Diggs, NA, Howard, Hamilton, JHC, and Young. Those are the most talked about. Now that Jenkins is UGA bound, Fowler’s name is being brought up again. I’m hoping it stops at the first two, which seem obvious right now, and they miss on the rest.
by City_Nole on Jan 11, 2012 1:24 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
my guesses
Diggs 50%
Agholor 70%
Howard 60%
Hamilton 20%
JHC 20%
Young 40%
by PullingGuardGator on Jan 11, 2012 2:25 PM EST up reply actions
Clemons is all UGA
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by NoleThruandThru on Jan 11, 2012 4:16 PM EST up reply actions
I agree for the most part
though I’d probably bump Diggs, and Howard up a little bit (Billy G just left LSU). I also wish that the Fowler talk would stop, because I just think this kid is playing with Florida…he’ll be a nole.
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No doubt
I’d love to have him, but I think he just likes the attention.
by PullingGuardGator on Jan 11, 2012 5:45 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, this year looks like it will go to Bama
and while I don’t particularly love Bama getting another #1 class, this Gator fan doesn’t care in the least that we’re not going to be #1. I’m just thrilled that we’re putting a good class together, and are back were we should be from a recruiting standpoint. #1, #2, whatever…as long as we fill some solid need with elite talent.
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it doesn't matter to me
as long as the Noles close strong. I’ve got tunnel vision and am too busy willing Goldman, Howard/Darby, and a couple others into our camp.
Speaking of Goldman
They said he only met with 1 team’s coaches after the UA game the next morning for breakfast…FSU. Then he left to go home.
by zewhitedevil on Jan 11, 2012 12:48 PM EST up reply actions
Yep
Sorry if thats a no no. But I do pay for it.
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Please don't offer direct "premium" information. This is not condoned on the site.
Off-handed comments from here to there aren’t a big deal, but when you take something directly from a story (such as first hand knowledge like this) and post it, that is a violation of the terms and conditions.
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Gotcha
My apologies, won’t happen agian.
by zewhitedevil on Jan 11, 2012 2:53 PM EST up reply actions
No worries
Not like you broke a commitment before it hit or anything.
Thanks for understanding!
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Really trying not to get too excited, but if we land Goldman...I mean...
We are going to be absolutely stupid up front on defense. Like…if I weren’t an FSU fan, I’d be angry about what Jimbo Fisher has built on the d-line in two years.
Jernigan? McDaniel? E-Dawk? Cam Erving? Young blood like Lawrence-Stample…and what about 4 star Derrick Mitchell? Haven’t heard from him in awhile.
We’ve already got Shanks and Stuckey coming in. But Goldman too? It really doesn’t seem fair.
Just wish we were doing that at every position
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by AMFKNole on Jan 11, 2012 3:54 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
They have a shot and are still in it for some big names
I think they’ll finish top 5 easily, maybe top 3 if they land some of the kids they think they will
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by NoleThruandThru on Jan 11, 2012 12:46 PM EST up reply actions
At this point they're in the driver's seat for Agholor and Howard (though LSU is a threat)
and they have a good shot at Diggs too. Those three alone could potentially vault them into top 3.
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by NoleThruandThru on Jan 11, 2012 12:48 PM EST up reply actions
I hope Diggs goes to UVA or Maryland
My hope is Locksley works his voodoo magic and keeps him away from UF. I know some aren’t high on him, but I think he’s a tremendous football player.
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I think we all need to be rooting for Locksley to pull a Wes Brown and keep Diggs at Maryland.
Kid has big time talent. Do not want him going to UF.
I agree with you. I love the video on Diggs.
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by pasadenanole22 on Jan 11, 2012 4:30 PM EST up reply actions
Not that they're talented.
I just think Alabama and Texas will be too hard to pass.
All I want for NSD is Eddie Goldman...
Texas will be #1 by 400 points on ESPN.
On sites that don’t have financial interest in certain teams, Bama will smoke everyone, oversigning be damned.
Not sure I agree. They will definitely try to put Texas at #1 but there aren’t many more guys that are gonna end up signing with Texas. They are underdogs to get any of their remaining targets and have already been passed by Alabama. They can’t jump them if no one else of significance jumps on board.
Ronald Darby
Is he visiting this weekend? Rivals has him as visiting FSU and Clemson, but just a few days ago, they had him visiting only Clemson. I know 247 had some info on him and it looked like it was good news. Anyone know for sure if he is visiting?
I know I’ve seen 2013 CB Mackensie Alexander mentioned a few times on here as a target for this year. Looks like he committed to Tennessee today… interesting.
Damn, that's disappointing to hear.
Really liked his game. There’s a long way to go though.
Yes it would
And a major, major blow to Bama in the Goldman sweepstakes.
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I'm feeling really confident about Goldman.
Can someone confirm for me…awhile back, around when Justin Shanks committed, weren’t both he and Goldman saying they were planning on playing together in college?
And, as I already said higher up…if we pull Goldman, we’ll be flat-out stupid at DT.
Yup, they are went on record saying they wanted to play together sometime during the summer I think?
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Assuming EJ gets his head straight...our BCS Championship hopes are almost entirely pinned to how the young OLs mature.
And even then…you have to assume the margin is somewhat wide, relatively speaking. Does a C+/B- offensive line get us there?
Without excellent field position, scoring on FSU is going to be quite difficult in 2012. Forget about running the ball. Like, don’t even consider it.
Re EJ & his head
based on what I’ve seen, he plays best when he’s angry. Jimbo needs to do whatever possible to keep the kid pissed.
Championship!
Water sucks?
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by Nattylite on Jan 11, 2012 3:49 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
No I got it
I was responding with another (bad) joke
by newdynastynole on Jan 11, 2012 3:59 PM EST up reply actions
For your records:
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haha I know
Again, it was a failed joke lol
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Do you just have that sentence permanently saved on your clipboard?
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No, it's a personal motto
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And when you are gameplanning to pass
Remember that Reid and Rhodes did not go pro.
And Joyner takes as many of his own guys out as he will yours…
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I'm so excited to see the young guys step in to fill the holes, too.
Whoever fills in for Parks and Bradham, in particular.
i could see B Jenkins moving to linebacker
He most likely will play that in the Nfl anyways but I think he would be a great fit and it’ll give tank and a few others a chance to shine
by thornole on Jan 12, 2012 1:00 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Usually first round picks dont switch position right away
When going in the first round its because of what you are doing at that position. You dont take a first rounder generally hoping he can play anther position. He is maybe 10 lbs away from being just fine with his size in the NFL for a DE
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by HaveNoleOption on Jan 12, 2012 5:22 PM EST up reply actions
College QBs who can't play QB in the NFL are the exception that proves the rule.
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"Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man."
by pasadenanole22 on Jan 12, 2012 7:46 PM EST up reply actions
Tim Tebow says hi.......
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Depends on the team.
Jenkins improved so much setting the edge that if I ran a 4-3 Cover 2 scheme, I would be more than happy with Jenkins as my RE.
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by pasadenanole22 on Jan 12, 2012 1:50 PM EST up reply actions
Wouldn’t a prime example be the recent LSU Bama game? IIRC, and I don’t because the game wasn’t too exciting, the Bama d-line chewed through LSU’s o-line making JJ lose his pocket poise and force them into an option game?
Yeah. Barring major injury losses, I totally expect FSU to be as dominant defensively as Alabama was this season.
If not more so on the defensive line.
On the DL? Or overall defense?
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I'd say overall defense
hard to ever be as good as Bama was this past year. I mean 1st in every category?! Really Bama?! Nobody does defense like Saban….nobody
by SarasotaSeminole on Jan 11, 2012 7:13 PM EST up reply actions
Greg Reid isn't 6'1" with sub-4.5 speed.
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THIS^
Look at Bama’s DB’s. Other than Rhodes, their startes are more complete. Reid and Waisome have disadvantges due to their size or lack thereof.
by SarasotaSeminole on Jan 11, 2012 9:33 PM EST up reply actions
Also
I lvoe Brooks at free safety, but let’s assume LOS comes on in the Spring and is neck and neck with Brooks. In that case I’d like to see Brooks take over that Mike Harris role. Thoughts?
by SarasotaSeminole on Jan 11, 2012 9:34 PM EST up reply actions
That would be ideal. You WANT your Nickle CB to be able to tackle like a Safety in the run force game.
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by DRusso97 on Jan 11, 2012 9:37 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Exactly what I was thinking
And Brooks is a sure tackler like Harris but probably even a little more physical. I hope LOS comes on and FORCES Brooks to the nickel or boundary.
by SarasotaSeminole on Jan 11, 2012 9:41 PM EST up reply actions
This
"You can’t live a perfect day until you do something for someone who will never be able to repay you."
— John Wooden
"Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man."
by pasadenanole22 on Jan 12, 2012 1:51 PM EST up reply actions
This to DRusso that is.
"You can’t live a perfect day until you do something for someone who will never be able to repay you."
— John Wooden
"Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man."
by pasadenanole22 on Jan 12, 2012 1:51 PM EST up reply actions
If I were you
I would feel good about Goldman being in this class…
by newdynastynole on Jan 11, 2012 3:56 PM EST up reply actions
you guys have the BEST
recruiting threads anywhere. seriously. so good
i do think it’s weird that you guys think edwards is a lock to you. texas has made huge strides in the recruitment of him. have a good feeling about him. we’ll have the #2 or 3 class depending on nsd. if edwards comes we might be #1 some places. i think we may take one more because of the t. johnson decommit. shame because it won’t be a prospect near that level but still
Personally
I don’t think Mario Edwards Sr. would let him screw us at this point.
I think it’s one of those circumstances where Texas has made a late push, but if he was going to decommit, he would have done so already and given our coaching staff the opportunity to give Leonard Williams a commitable offer before this late in the process.
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Someone say he was a lock here?
This is FSU. We understand.
by Buddy Reynolds on Jan 11, 2012 3:29 PM EST up reply actions
I’d bet on it
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by RollNole5 on Jan 11, 2012 4:37 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Thanks man, appreciate it
Texas is a legit player but he’ll stay with FSU.
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by NoleThruandThru on Jan 11, 2012 4:29 PM EST up reply actions
Is it me
Or does Melenik Watson look EXACTLY like Kimbo Slice?
Check out the Noledigest front page story.
'Gentlemen, it is better to have died a small boy than to fumble this football.' John Heisman
Isn't his son a BCS prospect or something?
I think I read an article on ESPN awhile ago about it.
by hisaoawesome on Jan 11, 2012 3:47 PM EST up reply actions
Still unconfirmed
But TN is on it
'Gentlemen, it is better to have died a small boy than to fumble this football.' John Heisman
Fanshot opinion discussion
http://www.tomahawknation.com/2012/1/11/2700327/is-melenik-watson-really-kimbo-slice-you-decide
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Natty I noticed that also
The Seminoles are still America's team
Can there be one with soul so dead whose heart does not leap at the sigh of Renegade and the flaming spear
What kind of player is Will Latu? Does he play LT? And how good of a shot do we have?
Is he the kind of guy who could come in and make an immediate impact for us up front?
I would think FSU should have a good chance here...
…since Utah (only other visit) presently has SIX OL commits..jmho
by Buddy Reynolds on Jan 11, 2012 4:13 PM EST up reply actions
Impact-rated, but whoever knows...
..with O Linemen especially. I mean he played for College of the Canyons in Santa Clarita. It depends on how he is coached when/if he arrives here. But I think it is a good push by our coaching staff (Stoops recruiting him) towards a position in critical need of improvement.
by Buddy Reynolds on Jan 11, 2012 4:30 PM EST up reply actions
Krug was an immediate impact guy...
the impact wasn’t what we expected.
Dogs bark in the night but the caravan moves on.
He is apparently
not making it to FSU this weekend, grades are more of an issue than first thought or something
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by pasadenanole22 on Jan 12, 2012 1:52 PM EST up reply actions
Just curious
Is it possible for J. Winston not to turn pro after this draft, play football but never start as a freshmen backing up EJ, but then has a great year playing baseball for FSU, so he leaves after being drafted high in the 2013 draft before starting a game at FSU??
Anything is possible. But I have a hard time believing he'd skip to the draft after putting in a year at Doak.
He’ll either go MLB now, or he’ll play football (and baseball) for the Noles.
If you take his recent twitter comments into consideration, he seems high on being at FSU, rather than the draft. For example, I never seen anyone quote him where he talks highly of the draft. But he has mentioned several times how much he wants to come and put FSU “back on the map”
That might be gamesmanship oh his part....
Make MLB think he REALLY wants to play CFB so they think they have to offer him more to lure him to Baseball.
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by Blue Horseshoe on Jan 12, 2012 8:51 AM EST up reply actions
i think that thought process is a little to much for a highschooler. I think they are genuine tweets
"What kind of addicting substance has Jimbo spiked the Tally water with?
It’s this new thing going around campus lately-I think it’s known by the term…"winning". I hear it’s really addictive and the real hardcore victory junkies can smell it from all the way across the nation."
by SmoothCrimiNole on Jan 12, 2012 10:19 AM EST up reply actions
sure...but not for his family/those advising them
"Far better it is to dare mighty things, to win glorious triumphs even though checkered by failure, than to rank those poor spirits who neither enjoy nor suffer much because they live in the gray twilight that knows neither victory nor defeat"
by Blue Horseshoe on Jan 12, 2012 3:01 PM EST up reply actions
if you have seen his twitter account, I'm sure that his handlers (parents, family, coaches) aren't controlling his twitter
"What kind of addicting substance has Jimbo spiked the Tally water with?
It’s this new thing going around campus lately-I think it’s known by the term…"winning". I hear it’s really addictive and the real hardcore victory junkies can smell it from all the way across the nation."
by SmoothCrimiNole on Jan 12, 2012 5:01 PM EST up reply actions
If that were the case
I would think it could just as easily backfire too. why would a team want to waste a higher draft pick on a guy they think they might not be able to sign.
There have definitely been times that this has happened
Alex Gordon, a one sport athlete said he wanted to go to Nebraska even though he was a potential first round draft pick out of high school, so no one wasted their pick.
But in baseball, if the team doesn’t sign the pick they get it back for next year’s draft. Therefore if there isn’t an immediate need for a particular draft there is little lost.
What team’s fans are intensely following the progress of one prospect in the next MLB draft besides, maybe, the top two or three drafting teams? Maybe. We’re (FSU, Alabama fans) are the only ones living and dying over what he says.
that would be a logical statement given the fact we two (bammers, and FSU) are the only two possibly in line for his services.
"What kind of addicting substance has Jimbo spiked the Tally water with?
It’s this new thing going around campus lately-I think it’s known by the term…"winning". I hear it’s really addictive and the real hardcore victory junkies can smell it from all the way across the nation."
by SmoothCrimiNole on Jan 12, 2012 10:20 AM EST up reply actions
Good point for sure.
I wouldn’t say I follow him directly, but rather whatever recruiting material is posted. While it’s all football recruiting news, you still have to notice that he recently appears to favor playing football. That may all change of course once baseball season kicks in, given that the pinnacle of excitement in high school football just occurred. State finals, senior year, qb competitions, elite exhibition games, etc. I’d definitely be amped to play more football after all that!
Baseball's rules are.
Either going after high school or have to wait till 3rd year of eligibility for MLB draft. I think JUCO’s can go at anytime though
All I want for NSD is Eddie Goldman...
this is correct
has to wait 3 years after HS or can go JUCO and leave after year 1
Not exactly.
It is 3 years in most cases, but the rule actually is that the player is eligible to be drafted when he turns 21. For some players that is 2 years into college.
As DA said, JUCO baseball players can be drafted at any time.
by nolesblogger on Jan 11, 2012 5:49 PM EST up reply actions
Sorry, all,
but THIS is the best stuff I’ve ever read on this site! Hands down. Over the past two days. Again, seriously, thanks. I didn’t suspect that if he doesn’t go out with this first draft, then we have him for a couple of years!
thats if he can beat Coker out for playing time, missing a ton of spring and summer work due the baseball.
"What kind of addicting substance has Jimbo spiked the Tally water with?
It’s this new thing going around campus lately-I think it’s known by the term…"winning". I hear it’s really addictive and the real hardcore victory junkies can smell it from all the way across the nation."
by SmoothCrimiNole on Jan 12, 2012 10:21 AM EST up reply actions
Unless you are 21 years of age
UF had a 1st round pitcher drafted as a soph several years ago, turned down money went back to school and drafted again in 1st round only several spots lower – never made it to the bigs (que Nelson Mundz – ha ha).
that was noted a few posts up
most people are 3 years out of hs when they turn 21
I could be wrong about the exact rule, but I know there is a rule in place
Says something like if you don’t go right out of high school you have to wait until after I think their Junior year to enter the draft. I could be wrong but I’m rather positive he has to wait a few years if he doesn’t go this year
Glad we pulled him, he means a lot
Don’t think he’ll play 1 down for FSU football.
Shot a Gator in Jean Shorts just to watch him die.
by AMFKNole on Jan 11, 2012 4:47 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
And youre basing this on what?
The fact that he said he would only leave for “First-round money” or the fact that there isn’t a single mock draft on any reputible site that even projects him in the first 3 rounds? Im confused.
by Widespread Seminole on Jan 11, 2012 5:32 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I'll wait until he plays his senior season.
But the kid has measurables, skills, and POTENTIAL. Also, MLB scouts are acutely aware of him.
Formerly known as Randall W. Spetman.
I don't see a two sport athlete passing Coker
who I have very high expectations for. By the time hos redshirt freshman year rolls around, we’ll have an entrenched starter. He’ll never fully particip in Spring football and I’ll guess he leaves for MLB 3 years in.
Shot a Gator in Jean Shorts just to watch him die.
by AMFKNole on Jan 11, 2012 8:40 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
I could see this happening except for the entrenched part.
I just hope that other players in this class want to come play with Winston so that helps with recruiting. Also good to have Winston as a back up to Coker in case of injury or if Coker just doesn’t work out. Competition is important though. Coker will have to keep beating out Winston as long as Winston is here.
According to Rivals.com Ronald Darby will visit Clemson this weekend and the Visit Fsu on the 20th
but we all know how good of a site they have…smh
I don't think so, but we will see.
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Oh, I think he will visit
Just don’t agree with the rivals report on this one.
'Gentlemen, it is better to have died a small boy than to fumble this football.' John Heisman
I think everywhere else has him visiting this weekend so he and Bracy can talk.
Can anyone confirm his visit date with us?
I think he was originally scheduled to go to Clemson this weekend.
Things are looking good for Darby to FSU, IMO.
by newdynastynole on Jan 11, 2012 4:15 PM EST up reply actions
That's not what the wow was in reference to
But yeah, I think things look good for Darby too.
Would make me forget all about the Howard sweepstakes.
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Like Rasco last year.
If he is, keep him away from Tally. We don’t need him recruiting our guys to the Turds.
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I don't see how he dosn't commit after hanging around are whole class basicly
Unless Clem$on brings out the money bags.
??
Is that TN’s recruiting god-mode Michael from warchant?…Is that why we haven’t seen him in a few days…..hrmmms, go go gadget speculationizer.
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by metalheadnole on Jan 12, 2012 4:06 AM EST up reply actions
TN has their own Michael
fka TexasNole or something along those lines.
Shot a Gator in Jean Shorts just to watch him die.
by AMFKNole on Jan 12, 2012 8:27 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
whew
dodged a bullet there, thought i was gonna have to renew my subscription to warchant and be forced to read their threads too #wasteoftime
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by metalheadnole on Jan 12, 2012 4:20 PM EST up reply actions
it's Michael Langston
who used to run Sunshine Preps before joining Warchant (Sunshine Preps used to be one of the best (if not the best site for recruiting videos).
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I think I read on twitter that darks was definitely going pro
I could be wrong but I think it was ricoberts.
by fscubsu9 on Jan 12, 2012 11:54 AM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
I think it's safe to say Datko is not coming back.
>------::----::------->Spearing 'em and Scalping 'em like it's 1999
I'm not so sure this Jimbo fella is the right man for the job.
Hart - LT Krug - LG Stork - C Jackson or Matias - RG Glauser - RT
That’s how I see it panning out. Anything can happen though.
by Tony Mustian on Jan 12, 2012 1:02 PM EST up reply actions
That sounds pretty good
especially with another year of experience, NC worthy with the defense returning
Bobby Hart.
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Recruiting Guys (Bud, Michael, DA, NT&T etc.)
Very curious to see your thoughts on the final Scout rankings. Never been a huge fan of Scout for football (too many 5 *s and they seem to be the ones that agree least with the other services). Couple things really surprised me at first glance though:
Winston #41 in the country?
Goldman #31?
forgot to add that I also don’t like how they don’t have Jameis committed to FSU. I understand their “stance” on soft verbals if they are still taking visits, and can almost understand them not having Mario as committed to FSU, but Jameis has confirmed his commitment multiple times. Just annoying.
They're painfully slow over there.
I’m sure they’ll get it fixed in by NSD.
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Interesting to say the least... 50 five star prospects is a joke
I do like DGB at #1 and Shaquille Thompson at #3.
Too high: Ronald Darby, Russell Shell, Quay Evans, Brian Poole, Avery Young, Gunner Kiel (seriously?), Wes Brown, Tyler Nero.
Too low: Johnathan Gray, Duke Johnson, Eddie Goldman, Jameis Winston, Tracy Howard, TJ Yeldon (how is he that low?), Kent Taylor, Marcuss Eligwe (really?), Justin Shanks, Max Tuerk.
I don’t mind where they put Agholor actually since they have him as a safety.
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by NoleThruandThru on Jan 11, 2012 9:08 PM EST up reply actions
Internet Rumor that Phillip Sims is transfering from Bama
their fans think this means Winston is coming
Their fans don’t understand that’s a bad thing
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oh, I definitely agree
just repeating the nonsense that is coming from that fanbase
Not sure we didnt see that coming
First Star Jackson, and now Sims…where do you think he will land?
no way no how, did you see winston's comment after the natl championship? pretty solid.
“Just being real Alabama is always gone be good but I’m gone try to put them #Noles back on the map like Deion an my main man Charlie Ward”
"What kind of addicting substance has Jimbo spiked the Tally water with?
It’s this new thing going around campus lately-I think it’s known by the term…"winning". I hear it’s really addictive and the real hardcore victory junkies can smell it from all the way across the nation."
by SmoothCrimiNole on Jan 11, 2012 4:52 PM EST up reply actions
Good thing for us Bama's baseball team sucks.
'Gentlemen, it is better to have died a small boy than to fumble this football.' John Heisman
Those rumors have existed since the kid set foot on campus
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by NoleThruandThru on Jan 11, 2012 4:54 PM EST up reply actions
Saban is going to try and recruit
2 elite qb’s every year. It’s up to them to get the job or they can transfer.
by tuscaloosa-nole on Jan 12, 2012 7:53 AM EST up reply actions
Any word on how Eddie Goldman looked
during practices last week and during the UA game? I was too busy watching our DEs during the game, and I havent read anything about his performance.
Note on Darby
I just read this on scout. I think this illustrates just how fast he is. Keep in mind this is right before his junior year in hs.
“He ran a 10.55 in the 100-meter and a 21.24 in the 200-meter for USATF at nationals in California in August of 2010”
Him and Bracy could be epic for our track team, at the very least.
He is faster now
Second fastest player in Florida history behind Houston McTear
The Seminoles are still America's team
Can there be one with soul so dead whose heart does not leap at the sigh of Renegade and the flaming spear
he as in who? Bracy?
"What kind of addicting substance has Jimbo spiked the Tally water with?
It’s this new thing going around campus lately-I think it’s known by the term…"winning". I hear it’s really addictive and the real hardcore victory junkies can smell it from all the way across the nation."
by SmoothCrimiNole on Jan 11, 2012 9:15 PM EST up reply actions
Houston McTear
There’s no way that’s a real name. Is that a real name? No way.
Dan Patrick: "Is Ponder a good name for a quarterback?"
Christian Ponder: "Why? Because you say I overthink things? is that what you’re trying to imply? As crazy as it sounds, my mom’s maiden name is actually SuperBowlWinner. Isn’t that crazy?"
DP: "Now is that hyphenated?"
CP7: "No, it’s all one word."
by GregJones on Jan 12, 2012 5:49 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Was a world class sprinter
I feel more like I do now, than I did before
gatornation - ungracious in victory, arrogant in defeat
by HaveNoleOption on Jan 12, 2012 11:23 AM EST up reply actions
Karlos Williams also runs a 10.55 100-meter...
If we get Darby are secondary will be scandolous..check that are whole defense will be amazing.
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Only because you have written it several times in this thread, but it’s “our”, not “are”…
by newdynastynole on Jan 11, 2012 7:35 PM EST up reply actions
The best time I've read for K.Williams is 10.70 100m
But considering his size, that is outstanding.
then of course there is football fast and he looks amazing.
He ran a 10.55 in March 2011 in Polk county
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by freshcollegeboy on Jan 11, 2012 10:57 PM EST up reply actions
Hey everyone,
On behalf of the recruiting guys at TN, just want to say thank you to everyone who contributes to our recruiting threads. We appreciate all the great discussion and hope y’all enjoy posting. This doesn’t get said often but without y’all, we wouldn’t have such a great time discussing everything. So thanks again and enjoy the wild ride until NSD!!
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by NoleThruandThru on Jan 11, 2012 8:34 PM EST reply actions 3 recs
21 more days
let’s see if we can get at least 5-6 more threads :)
Yes it is....guy's name is Lee Tergesen.
He’s been in a couple of roles you wouldn’t think he would be in….Point Break, Weird Science. His best role was Generation Kill.
Echoing NoleThruandThru ... THANKS
for keeping the discussion board current and relevant! Don’t know what I’d do without you guys. Have never before posted, but I do check the TN recruiting thread SEVERAL times a day. On-the-other hand, I don’t have a life outside of my garnet & gold-painted man-cave decorated with posters of Bobby Bowden, Jenn Sterger, Chief Osceola on Renegade, and Jenn Sterger.
Welcome and hope to see you posting more :)
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by NoleThruandThru on Jan 12, 2012 9:05 AM EST up reply actions
This was the Wayne's World reference that popped in my head after reading NTT:
WE’RE NOT WORTHY! WE’RE NOT WORTHY!
Times in the 100m out of HS that would help FSU
Are in the 10.40-10.45 range. They then have to get down to 10.20-10.25 to really help FSU on the natioanal level.
Yes 10.55 for guys Darby and Williams are really really good but not elite. FB players in college can slow down due to the weight gain.
Exceptions are FSU’s MRG and UF’s JD.
what say you then about mr bracy's 10.05? :)
"What kind of addicting substance has Jimbo spiked the Tally water with?
It’s this new thing going around campus lately-I think it’s known by the term…"winning". I hear it’s really addictive and the real hardcore victory junkies can smell it from all the way across the nation."
by SmoothCrimiNole on Jan 11, 2012 9:07 PM EST up reply actions
Bracy's speed is so elite .....
He could improve upon it just by getting stronger, working on his form etc.
He could slow down if he puts on too much football bulk type weight, or if he doesn’t practice track much (things like starts,form). Obviously we have to hope he stays injury free.
My guess is that does pretty well in FB, but in the spring focuses on track and is a superstar in that. 9.9 guy in college
Bracy's speed is so elite .....
Usain Bolt told him to chill.
by CrimiNole Defense on Jan 11, 2012 9:48 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Josh Newberg just announced on twitter
That Darby will visit this weekend
by nole your enemy on Jan 11, 2012 9:09 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
yeah MichaelTN confirmed it a bit ago, now i guess it is legit, legit.
"What kind of addicting substance has Jimbo spiked the Tally water with?
It’s this new thing going around campus lately-I think it’s known by the term…"winning". I hear it’s really addictive and the real hardcore victory junkies can smell it from all the way across the nation."
by SmoothCrimiNole on Jan 11, 2012 9:11 PM EST up reply actions
Did Michael confirm on twitter or in here? I haven’t seen a tweet from him in about a week
by nole your enemy on Jan 11, 2012 9:23 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
my appologies it was michael at warchant
MichaelWarchant Michael Langston
#FSU commitment adjusts visit date. Quick notes on Ronald Darby, who confirmed again he is visiting this weekend bit.ly/wRqtDa ($)
"What kind of addicting substance has Jimbo spiked the Tally water with?
It’s this new thing going around campus lately-I think it’s known by the term…"winning". I hear it’s really addictive and the real hardcore victory junkies can smell it from all the way across the nation."
by SmoothCrimiNole on Jan 11, 2012 9:43 PM EST up reply actions
Newberg also said Pender officially got in as an EE.
Nobody else seems to be so confident as it was never posted on here and there has been no speak of him on campus. Bud was supposed to be waiting on a text from admissions earlier this week about it but I’m guessing he never got one as it was never announced here at TN. Also per DA-2, Pender was “allegedly” going to be on campus today, but still no word of that either. The Pender thing or lack thereof gets weirder by the day.
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by cerebralfish on Jan 12, 2012 10:49 AM EST up reply actions
Anyone know who Newberg's main sources are...
I’ve subscribed to 247 pretty much since it started and he has good perspective and seems to be plugged into the staff’s thinking. I’ve always wondered how he is so plugged in. Buddies with the actual staff? Someone in the football operations office? Thoughts?
by Albany_Nole on Jan 12, 2012 10:11 AM EST up reply actions
Not sure I want to know/really care. He seems to be pretty spot on most of the time
When he clashes with ML of WC, it’s funny. He tends to be correct, too.
Let's just say he's very plugged into the program
Shot a Gator in Jean Shorts just to watch him die.
by AMFKNole on Jan 12, 2012 1:01 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
If anything Karlos's time will translate better because he will only be carrying about 8% of his body weight in pads
While Bracy, carry the same pads (roughly 20lb), will be carrying about 30% more (closer to 12%) relative to Karlos.
This means that Karlos’s speed in pads will be much closer to his actual speed, while normal players lose a decent amount. This is why big guys with this type of speed are both rare and extremely coveted.
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by freshcollegeboy on Jan 11, 2012 11:04 PM EST up reply actions
Karlos and Lamarcus have to the potential to be the best safety tandem in FSU history.
Add that in with Rhodes, Reid, and Waisome, along with another offseason under Stoops. Good God our defense will be nasty.
by flash_kiley on Jan 12, 2012 2:21 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
Karlos has a lot to prove at this point, Lamarcus has proven that he is capable to go down as the best safety in FSU history.
Obviously Karlos has a lot to prove
he has barely played the position except in garbage time.
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by freshcollegeboy on Jan 12, 2012 2:02 PM EST up reply actions
Leroy Butler and Dedrick Dodge say "Hello"
Karlos and Lamarcus have to the potential to be the best safety tandem in FSU history.
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Question and a comment
I understand Clemons is going to visit FSU but why if FSU is not in the running for his services? Valdosta is not far from Tallahassee why visit something close to home?
My comment is nothing solid but some friends at KSU who know people at UN say FSU has a real shot at Peat. I understand that is pretty thin but maybe? Just looking for some mo right now leading into signing day. Peat would be big MO
I wish Clemons wasn't visiting honestly because I think he will recruit for UGA the whole time. I hope I'm way off base but I think it's just a free trip for him.
I don’t think FSU lands Peat. Hope his OV can really change things but I’ve thought Nebraska for a while now.
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by NoleThruandThru on Jan 11, 2012 10:10 PM EST up reply actions
Recruiting, what a wild ride
Getting a free trip to a place you have been many times seems a little odd. Maybe the staff can turn Clemons in our favor. I do not think the staff would let him come if they thought he would hurt us.
Peat has everything pointing him to Nebraska but I can understand why he would like to visit. Free trip to see the Grandparents and a chance to see beautiful Florida. Maybe the staff can show him the sites around Tally and some pictures of all that snow in Nebraska. Beautiful girls in short skirts in January for Florida or Snow in Nebraska, which would you choose.
Do kids really recruit for a school while on an ov to another school?
Just seems like kind of a d move
by TheRenegade29 on Jan 11, 2012 11:12 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Yep
Our kids have one it at other schools too.
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by NoleThruandThru on Jan 11, 2012 11:24 PM EST up reply actions
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by NoleThruandThru on Jan 11, 2012 11:24 PM EST up reply actions
Happens less in women’s sports, but in al sports yes. Occupational hazard when you have multiple prospects on visits
I've heard of schools tell some recruits they can't visit due to their recruiting
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by freshcollegeboy on Jan 11, 2012 11:53 PM EST up reply actions
Julio Jones and Trent Richardson
recruited for Bama on their OV’s to UF (Jones apparently was sent home for doing it)
by westcoastnolefan on Jan 12, 2012 12:30 AM EST up reply actions
Agree
I’ve pretty much given up on Peat and Goodman. Not getting my hopes up.
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We certainly won't be getting Peat
especially not with Nebraska landing Avery Moss
by westcoastnolefan on Jan 12, 2012 12:28 AM EST up reply actions
Regarding the three MD prospects on your board
Eddie Goldman, Ronald Darby, and Stefon Diggs…
I think Goldman will either go to Alabama or Florida State. I do not which one is leading. I have heard different things about Ronald Darby from different websites. One site is saying he wants to go to college away from home, the other saying he is still looking at UMD. One thing that both UMD sites are saying is that he says he wants to take all five visits. I think hes used three (Notre Dame, UMD, and Auburn), which leaves him two left. FSU is getting one, will be interesting who gets teh second. That may help determine his two leaders. Stefon Diggs is high on the Florida Gators. I would say Florida in the lead. If he doesn’t end up in Florida, then I think Maryland is the next most likely to land him. Maryland has already pulled two four stars out of his HS in Mike Madaras and Wes Brown and made some moves that I referred to in another thread to strengthened their relationship with that high school.
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by zewhitedevil on Jan 12, 2012 8:26 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
IMO
Goldman- FSU
Darby- FSU
Diggs- UF
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by NoleThruandThru on Jan 12, 2012 9:05 AM EST up reply actions
no way for winston, I may give you kiel.
if a kid is proactively tweeting about FSU on the night bama wins the natl championship, i would say he’s pretty solid. plus, saban wont let him play baseball, even if he did, bama’s baseball program is far inferior to FSUs. I would say he is either at FSU or going in the draft. more likely staying at FSU.
I would also say that I don’t see him contributing because Coker will beat him out for playing time.
"What kind of addicting substance has Jimbo spiked the Tally water with?
It’s this new thing going around campus lately-I think it’s known by the term…"winning". I hear it’s really addictive and the real hardcore victory junkies can smell it from all the way across the nation."
by SmoothCrimiNole on Jan 12, 2012 10:16 AM EST up reply actions
joking.
Bama fans believe it though.
Also word is that it doesn’t matter if Coker is better, Winston will see plenty of time as a true freshman, and that has been part of his recruitment.
makes sense. I think that may be the same scenario we have seen play out with JWJ
they let him see time just enough to show him to himself he isn’t ready.
"What kind of addicting substance has Jimbo spiked the Tally water with?
It’s this new thing going around campus lately-I think it’s known by the term…"winning". I hear it’s really addictive and the real hardcore victory junkies can smell it from all the way across the nation."
by SmoothCrimiNole on Jan 12, 2012 11:20 AM EST up reply actions
Jimbo has said
he never guarantees any recruit playing time…
by newdynastynole on Jan 12, 2012 11:20 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
With Murray State being the only patsy
I do not see enough clean-up duty time to make sure Winston would get plenty of PT. What are you going to do? Play him on special teams or let him hold for D-Hop?
Jimbo doesn’t play around with the QBs. We don’t have the luxury of blowing out enough teams to give plenty of PT to the 4th string QB. Maybe Winston gets time on the practice squad?
He will not play in 2011 anyways
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by AMFKNole on Jan 12, 2012 1:02 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
potentially? Yes
Currently for FSU football? No.
I find it hard to imagine Winston beating out Coker for the #2 or even #3 spot just 2 months after stepping on campus.
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by freshcollegeboy on Jan 12, 2012 1:50 PM EST up reply actions
Shh….can’t we wait til February 2nd for that sort of talk?
by CrimiNole Defense on Jan 12, 2012 2:46 PM EST up reply actions
That's what i mean I fully expect by the time ej leaves for Winston to be the starting qb
Let’s not forger that Coker has slot to prove as well he has the intangibles but he hasn’t proved himself either and hell he ran the trip option in highschool who knows if he can adapt
by TheRenegade29 on Jan 12, 2012 3:22 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
We won't be starting a RS Fr. at QB who plays baseball in the Springs unless Coker turns out to be mentally non-functional
And Trickett eats himself out of the position.
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by AMFKNole on Jan 12, 2012 4:23 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
agreed, and agreed
i think most are hallucinating saying a two sport QB is going to make an impact…might as well give him the Heisman while we are at it.
"What kind of addicting substance has Jimbo spiked the Tally water with?
It’s this new thing going around campus lately-I think it’s known by the term…"winning". I hear it’s really addictive and the real hardcore victory junkies can smell it from all the way across the nation."
by SmoothCrimiNole on Jan 12, 2012 4:37 PM EST up reply actions
PLUS
Jameis needs to put on about 15 to 20 pounds or else he’ll get “Tricketed”
by SarasotaSeminole on Jan 12, 2012 7:56 PM EST up reply actions
IMO Coker is going to be special
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agreed.
"What kind of addicting substance has Jimbo spiked the Tally water with?
It’s this new thing going around campus lately-I think it’s known by the term…"winning". I hear it’s really addictive and the real hardcore victory junkies can smell it from all the way across the nation."
by SmoothCrimiNole on Jan 12, 2012 5:52 PM EST up reply actions
Maryland cut its track program, correct? No shot at Darby then. IMO.
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Maryland did cut its track program
I think that hurts them a lot with Darby. There is some debate on whether Darby is considering UMD at all. One site that I go thinks UMD is still in there battling, probably not the favorite, but still battling. The other UMD site I go to says no real shot at Darby. The site that says UMD is still in it is saying FSU and LSU are the leaders for Darby. LSU, kind of like FSU, just recently got involved in his recruitment. So maybe those are the leaders for Darby.
Diggs is hard to read cause he so positive about multiple schools. Gator fans think he is a strong lean to Florida cause he is very positive about their school, but just a few days earlier, people at UMD sites thought they were in a good spot based on positive things he said about UMD. He is a little charismatic and has a lot of enthusiasm. Because he has a lot of enthusiasm though it makes him a little tougher to read because you cannot tell if he really likes a school or is just being himself. That said I think Florida is up there and leading. I think UMD is in there trailing. And I think Diggs has other schools in play, but I am not even sure which ones.
This
I literally just got back from a conversation with someone close to MD’s recruiting. He said basically exactly what you said here. He mentioned they think they still have a shot with Darby, regardless of the track program, but he said he still thinks he goes elsewhere. He is optimistic with Diggs, but not sure. He was much more confident for a while about Wes Brown because of some behind the scenes things. Regarding Goldman, he mentioned that UMD still has an outside shot because Goldman’ s hs teammate, Albert Reid, just switched his commitment from WVU to UMD, but he also thinks Goldman is headed to Bama or FSU. He just thinks UMD has a better shot now. I will tell you all this.. Locksley is doing WORK in the DMV… It will be much tougher to get kids from this area moving forward…
by newdynastynole on Jan 12, 2012 1:48 PM EST up reply actions
PS
Goldman is huge for us in more ways than one. His teammate, Jalen Tabor (class of 2014) could be a top 5 recruit for that year. I do not know if they will play together in college, but I am sure it wouldnt hurt his recruitment…
by newdynastynole on Jan 12, 2012 1:51 PM EST up reply actions
Goldman
One of the Terp boards is saying Goldman will likely end up at Florida State and that he is tired of the recruiting process at this point. Sounds like a big time pickup for FSU.
Were we trying to get him?
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by cerebralfish on Jan 12, 2012 10:39 AM EST up reply actions
Would you say
That FSU is a later surging team as far as recruiting? I’m looking at the numbers of others teams and they seem to have more, albeit lower quality recruits. Perhaps we go after the higher caliber player earlier in the process and fill our roster top-down?
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This class is supposed to be small
The only “downside” of not graduating a lot of seniors is having a small class and lower recruiting ranking.
Exactly. Topping off with NSD commits like Goldman and Darby, if not one or two other 4/5 star surprises...
Pound for pound we’ll have by far the highest caliber class in the nation.
We already do. Based on Rivals:
USC #1 in star rank with 3.92 avg star. This is with 0 P/K.
FSU is #2 with 3.80 including kickers. After removing Beatty and Aguayo, who are top prospects but underrated as with all specialists, FSU has an average star rating of 4.00
Yes. 4.00. 2×5, 9×4, 2×3. 4.00 average stars.
We have a very small class but it’s absolutely stacked. Miami can keep their class.z
We just opened up two more scholarships, so 22 total?
I feel more like I do now, than I did before
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by HaveNoleOption on Jan 12, 2012 11:32 AM EST up reply actions
Do we have a list of everyone making visits to FSU this weekend?
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top of the page
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Yeah, but
The top of the page doesn’t account for what the boards (these boards, really) say about others. Besides the recent news of Darby coming, theres a post above that says
I’ve scene on twitter that PJ Williams, Bracy, Legget, Leonard, and Stuckey are all coming, and others.
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by LetsGoNoles on Jan 12, 2012 12:03 PM EST up reply actions
It sounds like at a minimum we have about 6 uncommitted targets coming along with 5-6 current commits?
Yeah, from what Ive read
That seems to be the case
by LetsGoNoles on Jan 12, 2012 12:20 PM EST up reply actions
two I think
Glauser and Pender. Will have to see what JUCO we end up with.
Jameis Winston
They drop him from a 5 star to a 4 star in 247, he was the mvp of the Under Armour game, what a bs.
Looks like they moved MEJr up
to a 5 star, but also changed his position to DT
by newdynastynole on Jan 12, 2012 12:08 PM EST up reply actions
Any other changes? Im at work on a cell phone, can someone post a link if thats ok to do?
by jenolesone on Jan 12, 2012 12:49 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
here is a link
http://247sports.com/Recruit/Top-247
It looks like there are some kinks that need to be worked out. For example, Jameis Winston has a 97 rating but is ranked as the 4th best player in the nation, still. It looks like the ratings have been updated, but not the rankings. A quick examination reveals Marvin Bracy has made a really big jump (from a 92 to 95). Eligwe has made a lil jump up, too.
by newdynastynole on Jan 12, 2012 12:58 PM EST up reply actions
Shanks?
I saw everyone I expected to see on that list except for him. Did I miss him or do they not have him ranked in the top 247?
247 Rankings suck imo
They are new to this so I will give them a pass this year. They need to tighten up though
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How/why did Shanks drop
from the #18 DT to the #39 in the 24/7 rankings? What went wrong? Even at that, their #18 was his lowest ranking earlier…#9 & #10 elsewhere…
Do you guys think that goes together?
In the sense that 247 sees him as an absolute can’t miss at DT, but only almost that good at DE? Don’t get me wrong, I am looking forward to seeing that big of an athlete on the edge, but actually how good could he be at DT? Perhaps a similar issue to another one that has been endlessly debated on TN: JWJ = RB or LB. Is MEJ a 95 DE (which is awesome), but a 100 at DT?
what about the incompletion he threw - he was only 8 for 9 passing
lucking he is not a 3 star :)
he's a lock for us now, completely safe
all Bama players get a boost in rankings, fear not my fellow Noles!
Not sure why you guys seem
to be quite so optimistic about Goldman…he is 50/50 at best with Bama FSU and many think he is a Bama lean…..he is also very good friends with Cyrus Jones…..Bama also just got into the Avery Young game apparently too…..
Roll Tide!
every school pursuing Goldman has similar reasons. We're pointing to latest info
He and Odell have always had a good relationship. One of our recruits and him always said they wanted to play together, etc. Other sites have pointed a couple recent things that sound like FSU.
Every school has their reasons they think they land him. IMO it’s all about Bama and FSU, and if anyone has any edge at all, it’d be FSU for stuff I’ve seen on paysites.
Well I for one think Goldman is a 4-3 DT
which would make the obvious choice FSU over BAMA
TBH Goldman is a crap shoot
It will either be Bama or FSU that is the only given. The best explanation I have read is FSU would be is dream school and Bama would be a very logical choice that no one would argue. Outside of the Bama insiders a large number of people feel FSU holds a 51/49 type lead. I get the feeling he will choose FSU for the same reason UF had that sick DL recruiting class a couple years ago, sometimes when that balls starts rolling and kids want to play with other great kids it ends up turning into a fun ride for the fans.
by Burghnole36 on Jan 12, 2012 12:57 PM EST up reply actions
Agreed about being a 4-3 DT
He could be an elite 3-4 NT if we works his but off and gains a ton of good weight. Or he could be a 4-3 DT/NG and be elite the moment he steps on campus.
No one hears about NTs for the right reasons (Haynesworth), but everyone knows guys like Suh, Fairly, Raji, and Sapp (one of my favorites).
No offense, but Bama is confident on every big name they're in it for
Well deserved obviously, but still. I like FSUs chances.
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by NoleThruandThru on Jan 12, 2012 12:53 PM EST up reply actions
This/Agreed!
Then again so is FU, Auburn & Texas too.
I find it pretty funny to listen to their fans say they are locks. Then when they whiff, it was we did not want/need him or told them to look elsewhere. lol
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Did you here Goldman’s comments on not wanting to be compared to anyone and specifically Marcell Dareus? Normally i wouldn’t put much stock into what he said but it was the way it was worded that kinda made me feel like he went out of his way to say that he doesnt want to be compared to anyone and that he is his own (unique) player. Just didn’t sound all that warm and fuzzy when it came to Alabama even though he obviously has serious interest in bama. IMO i don’t even think he really knows where he is going yet.
looks like Darby got a fifth star on 247.
didnt realize he was that type of talent.
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by BenDNole on Jan 12, 2012 1:29 PM EST via Android app reply actions
Darby and Leggett would get us 2 of top 10 CB's, and PJW is a top 10 S
Pretty impressive
Legget will be ours
if we want him… (hope so)
It will certainly be a fight to qualify though.
by FSUNOLES90210 on Jan 12, 2012 2:25 PM EST up reply actions
To emphasize this - Marshall is also in his top 3.
Not because he’s excited about the future of Marshall…
Leggett is a sign and place
Waste of a scholly IMO
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by NoleThruandThru on Jan 12, 2012 2:28 PM EST up reply actions
How is a sign and place using a scholly?
Like Terry Bell. Is he hurting us right now?
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by AMFKNole on Jan 12, 2012 4:27 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
It's a waste when you could've signed another player who would qualify to take his spot
Terry Bell and Leggett are different situations. FSU isn’t signing nearly as big a class as they did with Bell.
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by NoleThruandThru on Jan 12, 2012 4:31 PM EST up reply actions
I believe the question was how is signing and placing using a scholarship?
If he goes the JUCO route, I don’t think that is on FSU’s dime, correct? Theoretically could you not sign a class of 50 and s&p 30 of them? I too am kind of fuzzy on the whole deal, so any clarification would be appreciated.
I believe Mississippi did that a year or two ago. They signed 30 odd players
and sent a bunch to Juco.
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It doesn't actually use a scholarship
What NTT is saying is by Leggett committing here he would be taking a spot of someone else who could potentially qualify. No scholarship would actually have to be burned on him if he committed to FSU and ended up at a JUCO
JMO but I don't think FSU is too big of a player for him
MUCH better shot at Darby, and I would take Darby over Blake any day.
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by NoleThruandThru on Jan 12, 2012 2:36 PM EST up reply actions
Darby > Blake for sure, though Blake does have the upside advantage with his size/speed.
Just, last I’d heard he was looking to setup an OV to FSU this weekend. Haven’t heard a word since.
Oh I'm sure he will visit FSU, I just don't think he will come here
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by NoleThruandThru on Jan 12, 2012 2:38 PM EST up reply actions
Updated 247
Mario Edwards is now the top player in the country.
http://247sports.com/Article/Mario-Edwards-is-the-top-recruit-in-American-in-the-final-Top247-56723
jameis getting bumped down is retarded
thats all.
by fsudude on Jan 12, 2012 2:59 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Odd
it would be nice to know the reasoning behind Winston’s drop. I really do not get that Gunner Kiel is a 5* and Winston is not.
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Yea I guess they forgot he wont the QB comp, and took over the White v Black game.
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by SteadfastNole on Jan 12, 2012 4:26 PM EST up reply actions
Wow. Leonard Williams really shot up.
by PullingGuardGator on Jan 12, 2012 4:19 PM EST up reply actions
As he should. Hell of a player.
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by NoleThruandThru on Jan 12, 2012 4:31 PM EST up reply actions
Hey folks, please remember that this thread is for RECRUITING discussion
Discussion about next season and predictions and stuff is better in the Ongoing thread from Frank.
Please make this green so all of our new posters can see it, thanks :)
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by NoleThruandThru on Jan 12, 2012 2:52 PM EST reply actions 7 recs
What is up with Courtney gardener?
Some people say he’s comin others say he is what’s goin on?
by TheRenegade29 on Jan 12, 2012 4:48 PM EST via mobile reply actions
It's that time of year for conflicting info :)
I doubt he comes honestly.
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by NoleThruandThru on Jan 12, 2012 4:53 PM EST up reply actions
I hope he doesn't
Stay away from our recruits, Courtney.
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by Bud Elliott on Jan 13, 2012 8:44 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Political answer...
No school “pimps” officially or unofficially. However if a mutual attraction exists between a prospect and a FSU female student on a visit ….what happens in 850 stays in 850
And Cromartie's 80 children
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by JaviLouis on Jan 13, 2012 9:51 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
That was world wide. Don’t blame Tally on that!
by FSU on Jan 13, 2012 10:14 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
A mututal attraction
facilitated by an athletic department finding willing, attractive young women to assist in receiving the “payment” of continued interest and possibly a signed LOI if things go really well – sounds like pimping to me
But I know, many will have no problem with it (consenting adults, or nearly adults, and all). Different sexual ethic involved by this father of a 19yo girl and an 18yo baseball recruit…
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