FSU's Best Scheduling Options for 2012
by crowzilla on Jan 9, 2012 11:01 PM EST
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Now that the Champs Sports Bowl is over, attention naturally turns to next season and preparing for it. We already know a lot about FSU's schedule for next season, as it stands right now FSU will be one of two teams in the country that is scheduled to play three of this year's BCS participants. FSU's OOC games are against Murray State, West Virginia (assuming they don't back out), USF, and at UF. For conference games the breakdown is as follows:
* ACC home games: Boston College, Clemson, Duke, Wake Forest
* ACC road games: Maryland, Miami, NC State, Virginia Tech
Right now the schedule looks like this:
| 2012 Florida State Seminoles Football Schedule **TENTATIVE** |
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| Saturday 09/01/12 |
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Murray State Racers Doak Campbell Stadium, Tallahassee, FL |
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| Saturday 09/08/12 |
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West Virginia Mountaineers Doak Campbell Stadium, Tallahassee, FL |
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| Saturday 09/15/12 |
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| Saturday 09/22/12 |
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| Saturday 09/29/12 |
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at USF Bulls Raymond James Stadium, Tampa, FL |
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| Saturday 10/06/12 |
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| Saturday 10/13/12 |
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| Saturday 10/20/12 |
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| Saturday 10/27/12 |
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| Saturday 11/03/12 |
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| Saturday 11/10/12 |
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| Saturday 11/17/12 |
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| Saturday 11/24/12 |
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Florida Gators Doak Campbell Stadium, Tallahassee, FL |
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| Saturday 12/01/12 |
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ACC Championship Game Bank of America Stadium, Charlotte, NC |
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So the question becomes how does the ACC fill in the nine open dates with the eight conference games to best serve the interests of FSU and the conference for TV interest, Conference hype and ACC-brand building.
Here is my suggested schedule:
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This would allow for several things:
1) FSU would have their easiest road game the week after West Virginia. Although it is tempting to have another home game after WV, getting a road game out of the way that week will allow for a more balanced schedule later.
2) Bye week between what should be the two toughest road games (Miami and Virginia Tech). This would also allow the ACC to possibly schedule the Virginia Tech game on a Thursday night, giving FSU and the ACC some great exposure for a very high-profile conference match-up (possibly with two undefeated top ten teams).
3) Allows the two most important Atlantic Division match-ups (and potential ratings blockbusters) to be played in November, when the division should be decided in late season games against NC State and Clemson.
4) While you can't have a bye the week before carrying the conference banner against the SEC in the season ending game vs. UF, you can do the next best thing by scheduling Duke that week.
As usual though I would expect the ACC to totally screw this up and wouldn't be surprised to see Miami, Clemson, NC State and Virginia Tech all back to back starting the week after West Virginia.
Would love to hear other thoughts on the schedule.
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Love it. Don't send it to the ACC reps.
Or it’ll never happen.
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by freshcollegeboy on Jan 9, 2012 11:44 PM EST reply actions
Need to dump wvu
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by Bud Elliott on Jan 10, 2012 12:21 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
Absolutely
FSU could be much better and still lose 3 games on that schedule.
Would we become Boise State and have no chance of getting a title game if we were undefeated without WV?
If we can't laugh at ourselves, Packer fans will call us crybabies and we will be forced to kick their tooth in. I really don't want to go to jail (again).
by Alittlemore_cowbell on Jan 10, 2012 9:24 AM EST up reply actions
No
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by Jamil Dawson on Jan 10, 2012 9:25 AM EST up reply actions
Then let’s kick ’em
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by Alittlemore_cowbell on Jan 10, 2012 9:30 AM EST up reply actions
Not sure if you’re being serious.
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by Bud Elliott on Jan 10, 2012 10:15 AM EST up reply actions
I don’t have an issue with WVU, think only six home games is a bigger deal and that is because of the USF game. If we had seven home games I would be fine playing WVU as the OOC game.
It’s a game you have a real chance of losing that doesn’t help you get to the BCS
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by Bud Elliott on Jan 10, 2012 10:16 AM EST up reply actions
A more than 0 chance
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Whats your opinion on the % chance of that happening?
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by cerebralfish on Jan 10, 2012 10:35 AM EST up reply actions
I def agree!
We need to dump WVU! I feel they would also be happy with dumping us as well. So its a win win.
I like MD then WF early.
Neither are very good against the run, and I’m all for delaying games against good defensive fronts to give that O-Line time to gel.
I love WVU on the schedule. I wish we had OU again as well. But that may be because I think the game of football is bigger than FSU.
"If St. George would have killed a dragonfly instead of a dragon, who would have remembered him?" - Fredric March, Inherit the Wind
Regardless,
that schedule, even without WVU, is good enough to get into a MNC.
"If St. George would have killed a dragonfly instead of a dragon, who would have remembered him?" - Fredric March, Inherit the Wind
U wish we had WVU and Oklahoma
by TheRenegade29 on Jan 10, 2012 8:36 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
U wish we had WVU and Oklahoma ?
by TheRenegade29 on Jan 10, 2012 8:37 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
kind of a post intended to draw ire
but yes, sort of; i am much more interested in the 12 or 13 games we play in the regular season than i am one at the end of the year; would you rather have boise’s schedule and fish, hike, go to the park on saturdays, or need to stay home to see if we handle Holgorson’s passing attack or whatever?
me, i like a whole season of games, not just a one game season
"If St. George would have killed a dragonfly instead of a dragon, who would have remembered him?" - Fredric March, Inherit the Wind
Um....what?
i am much more interested in the 12 or 13 games we play in the regular season than i am one at the end of the year;
You are selfish.
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I am more interested in winning the 12 or 13 games we play during the regular season to then have the chance to play in the one at the end of the year for all the marbles.
Every game during the regular season is played for the chance to play in a bowl or the NC, for the players, coaches, and most fans. If you are not one of those, well that is your right.
And either my reading comprehension is off or this does not make any sense. What does having Boise’s schedule have to do with fishing…etc on Saturdays. Almost all college football games are played on Saturdays, even in Boise. Also, no one ever needs to stay home to watch football, it a pleasure enjoyed by many.
would you rather have boise’s schedule and fish, hike, go to the park on saturdays, or need to stay home to see if we handle Holgorson’s passing attack or whatever?
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I'm not so sure this Jimbo fella is the right man for the job.
Your comprehension is not off. That was incredibly poor wording.
I am just tired of playing a bunch of weak teams. I grew up in Mississippi. Every friend I have is either a fan of Ole Miss, MSU, or LSU (and naturally, whichever of the 12 teams that might validate an otherwise pathetic season. Can you believe that Ole Miss fans want to brag in my face about Alabama’s win Monday? The Black Bears were 2-and-whatever). But that plays a large part of my desire to see us play an unequivocally strong schedule.
So pretty much, nevermind. I think that many many issues may find resolution through tempered, balanced discourse. The two camps on either side of the schedule debate, will never, I think, reconcile the other’s viewpoint.
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by SalmonNole on Jan 12, 2012 1:51 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
That passing attack look's mighty powerful at the END of a season.
WVU is trying desperately to drop FSU from its schedule because it is looking straight down the barrel of one of the Nation’s best defense’s.
They saw what Alabama did to LSU. Holgorson knows that it takes time to “Fine tune”, such an offense. The kind of timing that is involved, and precision takes many hours of practice and game time. It does not come together by MAGIC!
Why are so many people on this board AFRAID of playing WVU on the 2nd game of the season?
You guys yak about five star this…and four star that…..Why not take this team out for a spin and see what it can do?
If you really think you deserve to be ranked #4 in the Nation, than you ought to be willing to …No strike that….You ought to WANT to play anyone , anywhere, anytime, and smack the crap out of them. That is what champions do.
Don’t argue with me. I know I am right.
Don’t argue with me. I know I am right.
We obviously have ourselves a winner. I am glad you let us know that you are beyond reproach even though you clearly understand 0% of what we’re arguing.
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The last 5 came out of the SEC, ...
Which proves my point. Ala, was willing to suit up with Penn St. at state college….They won. The best are not afraid….Only the armchair nitwits are….
The last 5 winners were all SEC teams.
They by definition, had meatgrinder schedules. Now that the SEC is even more significant than the NFL, if a school is outside that “Hollowed” world, they need to step-up and show they are willing to play someone at least semi-tough., if they want a shot at some s-u-g-a-r.
Just don't agree at all
Undefeated FSU goes every time barring a crazy situation with 4 undefeateds or something.
>>---l>
If every Alum from every school.....
In every conference THINKS with the same SMART mindset as you. It will guarauntee exactly 4 undefeated teams at the end of next season. Your way of thinking makes such a scenario, a mathematical expectation.
If you do not believe me…. Ask your physics professor.
DKfromVA, I totally respect your point of view.
It seems to be the conventional wisdom, and the " path most traveled", sort of speaking as a roadmap of non SEC conference teams to have placed themselves in position for contention, for a BCS bid.
I have purposely used the wording in the “past tense”. We need to be forward looking from now on. Conference re-alignment has been mindnumbing aggressive for a reason.
The SEC makes more NET money than the NFL. They don’t have to pay player’s saleries. States like Miss. and ALA. don’t have NFL teams, to compete with.
So there is going to be pressure from ESPN to have 3 good games every saturday. They are not idiots.
Since a tough fight is inevitable; Is it not better, to at least go looking for it? Instead of waiting for it like a scared kid?
Just a question.
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And laughs in your general direction
by jmnpb996 on Jan 10, 2012 7:17 AM EST reply actions 2 recs
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That sch would be perfect and just what the ACC needs to have one of it’s teams be great
Hmm.
Wake/USF/Miami makes me frown a little, though Miami/USF seem to play better away.
I hope we murder Wake this year.
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I like this schedule. I know playing WVU hurts our chances for a BCS game, but I like College Gameday atmospheres. How often do we get those at home? I’m hoping we get the bid like we did last year against OU.
Trust me I understand, more than I led you to believe. But I simply hate playing WF, BC, VA etc because they never feel like big games. For me personally, I like to be a part of games like last year’s OU game and UF game the year before… where the stadium is simply wild.
If we go to the Nat'l Championship
I’m sure I will be equally, if not more, wild there then I was at the Oklahoma game.
NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP > Another big game
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by Alittlemore_cowbell on Jan 10, 2012 9:33 AM EST up reply actions
Imagine playing those teams
Ranked #4, undefeated, and healthy as opposed to coming off a tough loss, decimated by injuries, and ranked #24.
Do you really not get this, or do you just like listening to Herbstreit drone on about “phisicality” live an in person.
by Widespread Seminole on Jan 10, 2012 11:35 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Do I really need to quote a post you directly replied to?
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In other words, I get it lol. I hope you read this before replying to it.
SimaNole, they think you're stupid because you enjoy competitive college football.
From myself and Simanole to the TN group think:
We understand the concept of smart scheduling. You are not rocket scientists. We don’t have to like or agree with your philosophy. FSU can handle one semi-competitive OOC opponent besides UF along with its crappy ACC schedule, and we can enjoy going to those games. Climb down off the high horse. We are good, knowledgable Seminole fans just like you. If you prick us, do we not bleed? We are not calling for LSU, Alabama, or Oregon. So stop treating us like dumba**es. And stop blaming this team’s failures on scheduling and injuries and youth and more scheduling. It’s embarrassing.
I swear to the god of all that is pure and holy, if we lose to Wake Forest in 2011 it’s because we scheduled too strong, and if we lose to Wake Forest in 2008 it’s because we didn’t schedule strong enough. And so all we ever talk about anymore is our schedule and not the fact that we’re still losing to Wake Forest. Dr. Lou, without blushing, would explain your collective diatribe as meandering and pointless.
I don’t mean to be harsh. It’s just that, as SimaNole said, we get it. Everyone gets it. And so, smart schedulers: What part don’t you understand? College football, like it or not, accept it or not, is bigger than assembling the easiest possible path to an MNC that no one even remembers the next day anyhow. When there’s a playoff? Fine. When the day comes that I actually do get more excited about an Orange Bowl against West Virginia or USF than rocking the Doak? Fine. But until then? I’m not going to pretend our schedule doesn’t already have ten cupcakes and UF just because we can’t beat them. Until the ACC steps up, which it has not, we need an exciting 12th game. As Jimbo would say, NOW.
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by TRMNole on Jan 10, 2012 1:41 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
Amen.
Another way for me to explain simply from example:
A. My father-in-law came into town during the Duke game this year (we watched it on TV). We were handling them with ease, despite the fact we allowed back-to-back-to-back on-side kickoffs. Or was it just back-to-back? I can’t recall because the game just wasn’t terribly exciting, though I did enjoy the easy victory. After a comfortable lead, we switched to another game because he was getting bored with ours. I agreed because, well… you have to respect your father-in-law, and I certainly was open to something more exciting.
B. Rewind several weeks to the Oklahoma game. I could have gone, but I was getting married soon and it wasn’t in the budget for time or money – though my wife shed a few tears to give you an idea of how badly we wanted to be there. We had some friends over and made a big deal about it. Basically, I was standing up in my living room most of the game because it was that type of game! A game you wanted to be at, and just couldn’t calm down enough to sit down for! Obviously we lost, but wow was I talking up a storm the next day to anyone who would listen. I respect my father-in-law, but if he was bored that game or wanted to do something different, he wasn’t going to get his way.
I would rather have a season with multiple B’s than a season full of A’s, even though a season full of A’s give us a better chance to get at least one B.
So you're concerned with yourself over what's best for the team/university
Good to know…
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by AMFKNole on Jan 10, 2012 2:35 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Playing 11 cupcakes and UF is not good for the university.
Don’t bring that.
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It helped teams like Michigan and Va Tech get at large BCS berths this year.
I’m sure Michigan fans would rather play bigger games than Eastern Michigan, Western Michigan, and San Diego State, but the fact of the matter is that both they and Va Tech bought enough wins to get them into the BCS.
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This is why it's pointless to argue smart scheduling.
It’s like you stare at the words I type while they float around your head and you sadly whimper, “Wha?” But I’ll continue to stick up for people who are made to feel stupid because they have a well-informed opinion that differs sharply for the group think. That’s why we all came to TN in the first place.
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We had an easier schedule than Michigan this year, even with OU and UF, according to FEI.
I believe in smart scheduling, but think we should acknowledge the countrer point that ACC is garbage. ACC +UF is unlikely to get us a top 50 schedule as the conference currently stands.
If you assume that Florida's going to be 6-6 going into perpetuity, sure.
Clemson’s schedule was 39th on the strength of South Carolina, West Virginia, and Virginia Tech.
And you really think any bowl organizer or non-trivial set of voters has a clue about what FEI even is? They care about name, “reputation” (which is something FSU can only fix by winning), and record.
If all sports fandom is a form of emotional gambling, football is poker and hockey is Russian roulette.
Nobody is suggesting that happen.
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Simply saying that the 8 ACC teams on the schedule are not seen as legitimate by anybody.
Not with the results we’re seeing. And it gets worse and worse.
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This is quite a bold declaration.
And wrong.
the 8 ACC teams on the schedule are not seen as legitimate by anybody.
Dogs bark in the night but the caravan moves on.
Not my fault if you're not part of the "anybody."
That or if you can’t figure out the context, don’t waste time just to be a contrarian.
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Not completely wrong.
Even most FSU fans don’t respect most of the ACC. People are still shocked when we lose to WF, expect UVA is an automatic win, smirk that Clemson will always pull a “Clemson,” and scoff at VT’s record against good opponents, and are expecting the impending demise of Miami.
And those are the thoughts of many FSU fans… imagine what the SEC fans think of the ACC.
by Invictus13 on Jan 13, 2012 11:44 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Not at all. I’m a die hard FSU fan and love good cfb. I simply expressed what I enjoy watching (my opinion), not what I think is best. But, I will quote myself again (a post your replied to) to express my understanding.
“I would rather have a season with multiple B’s than a season full of A’s, even though a season full of A’s give us a better chance to get at least one B.”
by: SimaNole
That last part expresses an opinion first, then the realization of what is best.
It's in the best interest of the university to put butts in seats and be involved weekly in semi-interesting match-ups.
And then win games on a schedule that programs like LSU and Alabama would laugh at, with or without WVa on the schedule.
Sima, they’ll throw up anything, and they’ll make it stick. Your opinion is perfectly valid and proven.
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When I lived in Atlanta and Tally
I had season tickets. I made every game, cupcake or not, and stayed for the entire game. I was there to see the Noles and watch the wonder of the season unfold. Each win took us closer to the goal of a NC, so I wanted to be there for as many as I could.
The logic of your A vs B scenario leaves out the fact that we have A’s on the schedule already. Florida is an A no matter what. VaTech is an A most seasons even if they can’t win the bowl game. Most of the country still looks at Miami as an A. You don’t think the media will consider Clemson an A game next year? You made this either/or. Either it is a game against a top 5 opponent and worth watching, or it is a game against Duke that isn’t worth your time. That is baloney. Most conference games are good competition and far superior to what Boise State has been playing.
USF is a B game that could be trouble if the Noles lose focus.
Most of our in conf. games are B games, not gameday, but quality opponents that you have to take seriously or get upset.
Duke is a C game, Murray State is a C game
There’s no logic behind an opinion. I enjoy match-ups with premier programs, rivals, in-state schools (includes usf and ucf) and ranked teams. Can you logically tell me why?
But I definitely agree… we have a few A’s on our schedule already that I’ll definitely be up for and already help our SOS. However, because we are discussing what to do with the WVU game, I would vote to keep it because it’s one more game I can get up for. One more Saturday I get to be on the edge of my seat or standing for, rather than enjoy an easy win.
Unfortunately, TRM, a lot of people (especially new posters) DON’T “get it.” That’s why it gets reiterated every time someone brings it up. The people who understand that the way to find oneself in BCS games is to schedule advantageously are still in the minority of the modern college football landscape, albeit not on this site.
>>---l>
DK, you and I know that, and we can be bros and fight it out and have fun with it.
But the general tone of the argument does tend to talk down to the smart fan who simply thinks FSU needs (or at the very least can afford) a second semi-marquee OOC match-up to maintain its prestige nationally. And the fact of the matter is the FSU fanbase, love ‘em or hate ’em, demands it, whether we win 14 games or 1. The dunce who truly believes in play anyone, anytime, anywhere generally doesn’t last long here anyway. Can’t we all just get along? (Without them.)
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Because those folks don’t understand how the system works.
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I actually think they do understand.
I just think alot of people have a hard time separating what they want to see as a fan as opposed to what the best way to maximize success for FSU over the next couple of seasons.
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Perhaps if they ask themselves “when” do they want to see those games (reg season or BCS), it would help.
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Yep.
Honestly, if FSU got it’s you-know-what together, everyone could get what they wanted.
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We can agree that would solve a lot of things.
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I dont think thats fair
My very level headed friend pointed wasnt shy about pointing out how much he pays for season tickets. Yes, he would love a title, but that ticket doesnt come with the season tickets. People are paying to go watch the patsies, and some dont want to do that.
Its easy for me, watching at home for free most weeks, watching on TV. Its very different for the people who are paying a nice sum to tell them that the reward for paying for unappealing games is the opportunity to pay for another one, regardless of it being the title game.
I think TRM said it pretty well, there are reasonable fans who want quality games on schedule. Obviously smart scheduling has the obvious benefits.
"However, I say, let UM burn." -onebarrelrum
Which does he enjoy more on the drive home
That win by 30 points? Or that loss by 7 which ends up in your starting qb injured?
Trust me I loved going to watch OU, but I’d traded that experience in real quick for the team to win 2-3 more games which would have enabled another Charlotte experience along with at least another Atlanta experience.
I hear you man
but I asked him this, and he said, " I hate losing, but I want to see a good game. If we arent the best that day, its okay, but go out there and play a good game."
Essentially, I think some people enjoy the journey as much as the destination.
"However, I say, let UM burn." -onebarrelrum
A very good point.
Which does he enjoy more on the drive home
That win by 30 points? Or that loss by 7 which ends up in your starting qb injured?
A lot of these guys want to play anyone, anywhere, and when we get beat up and don’t win them all they want to fire Jimbo. If that’s not the case, fine, but I have found that most of the gung-ho schedule crowd have a hard time accepting any sort of loss. Coincidence? I think not.
Dogs bark in the night but the caravan moves on.
These are officially straw man arguments.
No one is arguing to play anyone, anywhere. And FTR, group think comes off better when not everybody jumps in.
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I think for the singular purposes of the WVU game, I'd have to admit that even with WVU,
we aren’t going to have a top half of CFB schedule next year. I doublt ACC will have any other top 20 F/+ teams (VT?), and UF is down too. Without WVU, we may not play a single top 20 F/+ team next year.
I pretty much feel the same way. I completely understand smart scheduling and i completely understand that its the way of the world right now to schedule patsies because voters will not punish a traditional powerhouse in an AQ conference for running an easy slate. I’m gonna watch FSU no matter who they play, and obviously a win vs a cupcake is better than losing to a good team. But when i wake up on a Saturday in which FSU is playing in a big game it is better than when i wake up on a Saturday in which FSU plays a patsy. I love college football and its at its best when two good teams are playing each other. I think the difference between these two trains of thought is one OOC game on the schedule not three.
by bobbysura on Jan 10, 2012 8:29 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
You have a couple interesting points...
For example:
FSU can handle one semi-competitive OOC opponent besides UF along with its crappy ACC schedule, and we can enjoy going to those games…
We have uf and USF (at least a “semi-competitive” team) OOC already, so the WV game becomes superfluous.
…we’re still losing to Wake Forest.
So, WHY play WV right now, since we still can’t beat WF consistently? Perhaps we should hold off on the top end opponents until we’ve proven that we can handle the lesser ones.
Just some thoughts…
I understand why people want to play these games
Those weekends in September when there are 2 good games and 45 mismatches are awful, and only made tolerable because we haven’t had football in months. I would kill for the BCS to bring back the strength of schedule #’s, because even as flawed as it was, it made people think they had to schedule reasonably and it allowed FSU to slip past Miami in 2000 largely because Miami played a 1-AA team, meaning you got punished for playing them instead of some schools grabbing two.
Until that happens,though it’s clearly not worth it. And at this point, having the debate about whether 13-0 FSU gets into a BCS title game out of the ACC would be an upgrade for this conference over having the 10-3 champion give up 70 because FSU shot themselves in the foot repeatedly scheduling difficult games. Then FSU is just a mediocre 9-4 team in a mediocre conference.
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by SeminoleChopping on Jan 10, 2012 10:51 AM EST up reply actions
The only CGD atmosphere I want next season is
In DCS South in early January. Orange will please but BCS title is preferred.
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by Jamil Dawson on Jan 10, 2012 9:29 AM EST up reply actions
I dunno about playing in Lane Stadium
On a Thursday night. Great exposure, but damn, those night games in Blacksburg are wicked for the opponent.
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Is anyone planning on going to that game? If I were to go to one road game next season it would be that one. We need as many FSU fans there as possible.
I am going to that game.
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by SeminoleChopping on Jan 10, 2012 10:51 AM EST up reply actions
Duke game..
that is a home game, if i am not mistaken. In your schedule you’re showing it in Durham.
Only six home games is def a huge disadvantage but
I would go:
MSU’
WVU
@Duke
@USF
WF
BYE
@VTech
@UM
@Maryland
Clemson
@NC State
UF
Couple of thoughts:
NC State will not be an easy game at all and probably tougher than UM.
Clemson should be slotted 11/10/12 for sure considering the mandatory OOC games
There WILL be a rough patch in this schedule any way you slice it.
If that is the case and Duke is a home game
MSU’
WVU
@Maryland
@USF
WF
BYE
@VTech
BC
@UM
Duke
Clemson
@NC State
UF
Where is your Thursday night game?
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by Bud Elliott on Jan 10, 2012 10:16 AM EST up reply actions
Vtech
Being realistic and looking at our OOC road games it seems likely to be Vtech or NC State. I will go with Vtech because of the likely date for that game. I guess there is an outside shot it could be Maryland as well but they are going to be expected to be so bad that I can’t imagine that is schedled.
Would VT on Thursday be wise?
It seems like the FSU/VT game would have a solid shot at getting a great Saturday time slot – ESPECIALLY since the ACC releases its schedule later than most conferences.
Is there any reason we can’t look at other conferences’ schedules, pick out a couple “weak” weeks, and schedule our expected premier games then?
E.g., 10/13 looks a bit light on the SEC schedule. SC/LSU is probably the best game, maybe Bama/Mizzou has some interest. Otherwise, uf/Vandy, Aub/Miss, Kent/Ark, Ten/MsSt. Why not put FSU/VT on that day? It might get a better time slot than the SEC’s best conf game that week. (Unless the contracts lock the SEC up for the prime slot.)
This is my fav that ive seen thus far
gives up good prep time before each big opponent. Maryland before USF, Bye before VT, BC before UM, Duke before Clemson, and NC State before UF. You could probably say that BC and NCS is not ‘prep’ , but still, I like it.
by LetsGoNoles on Jan 13, 2012 11:03 AM EST up reply actions
Not only is @NC State not prep time
but it’s arguably the 3rd toughest game on the schedule. No way that game should be sandwiched between Clemson and Florida. USF also does not qualify as a big opponent imo.
by BobLoblaw113 on Jan 14, 2012 11:58 AM EST up reply actions
Would you rather play Boston College or play for a national championship?
Smart. Scheduling.™
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I'm proposing we only play 11 games.
That’s smarter than your schedule.
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by STAquinasNole on Jan 14, 2012 9:39 PM EST up reply actions
You know our Thursday night game is gonna be in Blacksburg....
#ThanksACC
by fsugrizz on Jan 10, 2012 10:35 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
Is funny cause its true...
What are the chances, literally, what are the chances the ACC doesn’t make us play @VTech on a short week? Its not that I don’t think we can and will win the game, its just that the ACC is downright laughable with the way they schedule their marquee teams right out of championship opportunities all in the name of giving CFB degenerates something to bet on Thursday nights.
by Widespread Seminole on Jan 10, 2012 11:41 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
I would bet against VT being Thursday night
That will be one of the Top 5 — maybe even the Top 1 — ACC matchups next season. They will want to save that for either a prime time spot or some other national telecast, imo.
Ya but people watch those anyways
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by AMFKNole on Jan 10, 2012 2:37 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Ah ha!
See my post above. I thought I’d read someone say something like that; did you post this idea on another article?
Just scheduling an SEC team is an automatic L, right?
According to ESPN, anyways
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It would probably be a patsy who we pay money to come to Doak considering most of the top programs have their OOC schedules set in stone two years in advance. Something similar to this happened a few years back with an FSU opponent canceling a game on very short notice and we played a very bad D-II school from what I remember.
It happened in 1999 with Auburn
and we got a Louisiana Tech team that ended up beating way better than Auburn and beat the SEC champs (Alabama). Also happened in 1995 when Notre Dame cancelled and we got a horrendous UCF team. I don’t remember the one you’re talking about though. Maybe 2008 when we had West Carolina and Tennessee-Chatanooga?
by BobLoblaw113 on Jan 16, 2012 12:14 PM EST up reply actions
Also
If WVU is cancelled does it also mean that FSU won’t go to Morgantown in 2013?
by hisaoawesome on Jan 10, 2012 11:52 AM EST up reply actions
FSU isn’t going there anyway. Would mean only 6 home games, and that ain’t happening.
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well I couldn't find many other schedules
but it looks like the Citadel and Georgia Southern are unavailable on September 8th. We’ll have to see if Charleston or La-Mon wants another check to rebuild the other side of their stadiums/locker rooms.
Not a fan of playing Georgia Southern.
They’re like a mini GT. Not worried about losing so much as injury due to style of offense.
Formerly known as Randall W. Spetman.
Not to mention they scored more points against Bama than any other team this year
And had more rushing yards against Bama than 5 other SEC teams COMBINED. I have no desire for FSU to produce the next App St. moment.
by Widespread Seminole on Jan 10, 2012 4:57 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Agreed
Same reason to avoid Wofford, Navy, and Air Force. High risk and absolutely no reward.
by BobLoblaw113 on Jan 16, 2012 12:16 PM EST up reply actions
Hopefully a D1-AA that FSU can use to develop more young guys.
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I hear Chuck South is seeking revenge
Maybe we grant them their opportunity
by BobLoblaw113 on Jan 14, 2012 12:00 PM EST up reply actions
Not looking forward to having to go to Blacksburgh on a Thursday night
Esp if we have to play WVU still next season
I'd argue
Playing at NC State will be more difficult than playing at Miami. We all know that FSU fans equal the Miami fans in Miami and being in-state makes it not a typical road game. Not to mention Miami loses 20 seniors and a few star juniors so I don’t see it being a tough game at all.
NC State >>> Miami next year
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I'd argue that NC State is our third toughest game next year
VT and WVU being the only two ahead of them. UF and Clemson are both in Doak next year. UF’s offense still probably won’t be very good next year (both QBs have their problems) and Clemson’s will likely regress a good deal without Allen. NC State will almost definitely be a Thursday night game, and even if it isn’t Raleigh has never been all that kind to us.
by BobLoblaw113 on Jan 14, 2012 12:10 PM EST up reply actions
As far as the VT Thursday game...
If we were to get a bye week before that game and if VT would have a scheduled game against an ACC that week, it could favor us. Because we’d have 11 days of rest whereas VT would have only 4. But that all depends on the scheduling.
I think we all know how that will turn out
#thefixisin
by Widespread Seminole on Jan 10, 2012 4:59 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Why is everything EITHER, OR....?????
Why does a schedule have to either TOTALLY TOUGH?
Or a bunch of cupcakes?
Why can’t we have a “rational” OOC schedule? Florida is on the menu. Not much we can do about that it is going to be a tough one, most probably. USF is getting better every year, it seems. Murray State still seems like a nice opener for the Noles… So that brings us to game two. WVU is trying like hell to back out, and I can’t blame them. It is brutal to get a sophisticated offense that relies on precision and timing to be effective, so early in the season. The expectations on WVA will be very high. So high, in fact, that the Noles defense will seem even more disruptive going into conference play, after the shellacking they lay down on the mounaineers. imo.
Two cupcakes, and two tough non-coference games seems rational to me.
No one is looking for all cupcakes
Clemson, Florida, NC State, and Virginia Tech are all very good teams, and that’s 1/3 of the schedule.
Wake, Boston College, and (just because it’s a rivalry) Miami are losable games as well.
Maryland and Duke will probably be awful, and obviously Murray State should be an easy win.
I’d add WVU to the first group (making 5 total), and USF to the second (4). But replace WVU with someone like Middle Tennessee and you get a balanced schedule with 4 in each.
by BobLoblaw113 on Jan 16, 2012 12:39 PM EST up reply actions
To add more nonsense to a nonsensical thread
(which is apparently what we all aspire to do on message boards), I’ll just note that the easiest path is the easiest path to the NC. The chances of getting there very often are extremely low, however.
FSU is still a huge TV draw, not because we steamrolled patsies, but because we played in epoch games over many years. Take those away now, and the national interest in FSU quickly fades and will not be rejuvinated by getting to an NC game once or twise a decade.
Yeah. And 90+% of them were vs. Miami and Florida.
After joining a conference, the only other classic games were 1993 Notre Dame (which damn near cost us a title) and the occasional bowl game. You can’t look at the 1981 Murderer’s Row and compare it to the modern day. No one does that anymore.
Florida will be back. Those games will be legendary again. They aren’t going to lose 5-6 games for long. As to Miami, who knows? But how about we work at not losing 4 or more games a year ourselves before we gripe that our schedule is too damn easy?
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NC State will be the Thursday night game
And knowing the ACC we will play them on short rest following a saturday game against either Clemson or VA Tech.
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