2013 Recruiting Discussion Thread #2 [CLOSED]
by DA-2 on Feb 10, 2012 12:39 PM EST
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issue to address is the lack of depth at LB ;)
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Deeb is a beast
how does he only have one offer.
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yes interest from the big 3
but USF is the only offer
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Elite instincts > elite speed for a Mike LB
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by DRusso97 on Feb 11, 2012 1:16 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Elite instincts + elite ankles> elite anything else
by spanky96 on Feb 11, 2012 4:55 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
I prefer elite ankles no longer be a need
Elite ankles not only did not help our certain OL recruit play center..
So Elite ankles is a bad thing. Not to mention after over a year of it. I dont ever want to hear that term again lol. Elite player but not ankles is what I want to hear.
Elite ankles horse is dead, Beaten so many times it died again and all the other horses are dead 5 times over as well lol
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I only want to hear about elite ankles
If referring to a stripper named “Destiny” Or “Sparkles”. And even then if the ankles the rest better be good as well. Those ankles may make a worthwhile difference
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by caine115 on Feb 12, 2012 3:35 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Or Bubbles, Shay, Nevaeh etc.
And yeah, those ankles could be real important..especially if she’s wearing large hoop earrings.#nocanklesplease
Control the Sunshine State & sooner or later you'll control the country.
so you want elite ankles
to be ruthlessly bitten off by a bloodthirsty dog?
"However, I say, let UM burn." -onebarrelrum
TSG > "elite ankles"
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no, tsg is awful.
youve got a lot of great material, but tsg is not it.
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The proliferation disagrees...but I can't argue personal taste.
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NEVER IN THE HISTORY
Never in the history of man has so much been written by so many about so little! Off with their ankles.
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Friends with him on facebook I see...
lol
Eddie Goldman, Ronald Darby, Colin Blake, Reggie Northrup please
Thought for sure DA would drop the 24-hour hammer on me
for starting the post with First lol. I know it’s the offseason, but can someone turn the humor switch on?
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I'm not so sure this Jimbo fella is the right man for the job.
I'd be fine with it.
A little controversy might relieve some of the no football stress.
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so childish
made me LOL
Championship!
by TLHWG on Feb 10, 2012 5:03 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Great minds think alike :)
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Thoughts on signing a top 5 class this year with the talent showing in Florida?
Looks like we will be taking a large class and I just can’t see this coaching staff reaching for many projects.
Are we talking a 5 star and (16) 4 stars with 4-5 solid 3 stars type of class?
'Gentlemen, it is better to have died a small boy than to fumble this football.' John Heisman
I'll go with
21 5 stars and then Jimbo goes out on a limb and 3-4 4 stars late in the game.
by ExTacklingDummy on Feb 10, 2012 2:30 PM EST up reply actions
I think the only way we get 21 5 -stars is to exclusively recruit off the Scout.com rankings, regardless of region, recruit measureables, fit for the system, or ACTUAL position they will play in college.
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by Nattylite on Feb 10, 2012 2:39 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
We have done
so well past few seasons, no reason to think the train slows down, a BCS berth this year wouldn’t hurt either
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Which recruits do ya'll believe are the must gets for our class this cycle?
Based on needs and talent with a good chance we could real them in. I wanna know who to keep my eye on and start a wish list…
by jenolesone on Feb 10, 2012 4:19 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Nkemdiche, Tunsil, Levenberry, Green.
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I'd take half of those guys
especially if it was the first half.
Yes. Behind 'Bama, but in the early favorites list.
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I hope you're right
I’ve seen a couple of lists of his and we aren’t on them.
I will start my WR wish list with (Derrick Griffin 6'7" 210lbs).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-4Eed5gmGo4
I think this kid can play a 235, easy. Watch the way he blocks too. I don’t know if we have a shot with him, but I am wishing.
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by Chief Pit Bull on Feb 12, 2012 12:57 AM EST up reply actions
LOVE him as a blocker...
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He finds a man not looking
And makes him look like a ragdoll
You're so wise. You're like a miniature Buddha, covered in hair.
Ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmm...................................
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by DRusso97 on Feb 13, 2012 6:41 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I don't agree with you about finding a man that is not looking, 0:34, and 0:56 prove you wrong.
Some of the others were prety close, and those that were not, well they will be looking for him next time wont they.
Let’s also remember they are highlights, I am quite sure he has made many more boring blocks. The fact that a good third of his highlights are blocks, makes me like the way he plays, and thinks about the game.
My opinion doesn’t mean much, but he is at the top of my WR want list.
When ahead never let up. When behind never give up.
It is hard to overestimate how significant the advantage you gain from being underestimated.
by Chief Pit Bull on Feb 14, 2012 2:33 AM EST up reply actions
This young man strikes me as a TE in stature but he looks mighty smooth out there though. He strikes me as a young Jimmy Graham, match up problem!
Legacy starts now!
by Nole954 on Feb 15, 2012 7:42 AM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
Light weight Jimmy Graham
Legacy starts now!
by Nole954 on Feb 16, 2012 6:34 AM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
So sort of like a Jimmy Graham type player?
by CrimiNole Defense on Feb 16, 2012 8:39 PM EST up reply actions
Just read on the tweeter we're picking up commit #5 on Monday.
Any speculation as to who?
Control the Sunshine State & sooner or later you'll control the country.
lots of talk on twitter that
S Mike Harris is going to possibly commit on Monday
by nole your enemy on Feb 10, 2012 5:35 PM EST via iPhone app reply actions
if mike harris #2
is as good for us as #1 I’d be happy
Mike or Marcell Harris?
I’m trying to find the guy and I’m having no luck….
do you follow Bushido?
He usually puts some good info out there. Not sure about accuracy though
by nole your enemy on Feb 10, 2012 5:57 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
I have a 247 sun and most people over there not named Josh Newberg look to Bushido for recruiting info. He’s pretty solid.
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by zewhitedevil on Feb 10, 2012 9:08 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
I'll second this.
He’s a good guy. Has some seriously good sources, but also protects the kids.
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Bushido has been around for a long time and has been pretty good.
He was a popular poster back in the day when WC had its free recruiting board.
I meant Mike Johnson
Was looking at draft talk also and put wrong name up
by nole your enemy on Feb 10, 2012 5:56 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
WE offered many kids tonight and yesterday.
mostly 2013, a few 2014 (Coral Reef WR for example)
I really want to land the trio from booker. (mainly Thomas, but we need OL bad also)
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NoleTide!
Sounds like a grocery store.
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by DRusso97 on Feb 10, 2012 8:37 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Definite take.
Good size/frame, appears to have good strength. Sh!tty technique in pretty much every way you can interpret that (hands/feet/hips/plays too high), but he FINISHES, and that’s what I look for 1st in a H.S. OL. Technique can be taught if you have the frame (he does) & athleticism (he does). Disposition cannot be taught…he has it.
Definitely a Guard.
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Nice!
What does he lack that prevents him from playing right tackle?
Lack of feet/range. He needs to play in a telephone booth at OG. Probably on the right side.
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aaaannnnnd then i see the link on the right hand side of the page (face palm)
by nole country for old men on Feb 10, 2012 8:10 PM EST up reply actions
Thank god that didn't happen
This should mean stiffer competition among Florida’s elite wide receiver prospects. I can only imagine the instate battles we will see this year for Coley, Cunningham, & Fullwood.
If early rumors are true though we might see Lincoln’s Williams and Davis suit for the devil.
As of right now...
No chance at Fulwood. The Clem$on Bagman has visited and is continuing to do so.
Tim Tebow is poopie.
by NoleMeansYes on Feb 10, 2012 11:44 PM EST up reply actions
Excellent season
and a few ass kickings passed out to some of these teams will go along way and changing some minds
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I am speaking for myself only when I say
Coley reminds me so much of Fred Rouse.
Not sure the potential is worth the baggage.
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Would take
Cunningham out of those top three as he’s probably the surest thing (Not sold on Coley nipping his attitude issues in the bud). Lots of “depth” in Florida at the WR position in 2013 but I’ve been disappointed in the Jr film thats come out. Seems like a lot of these kids lack a tremendous amount of upside. Like the Juwaan WIlliams offer and I hope we can get him this summer when he decides. At this point would take two in-state kids and two OOS kids at WR if indeed 4 are goiing to be taken. UF can have Williams and Davis (Especially Davis) especially as long as Aubrey Hill is at UF to coach them
by westcoastnolefan on Feb 11, 2012 3:54 PM EST up reply actions
Love UF and Auburn missing so hard late
If Muschamp can’t recruit, what can he do?
Muschamp
Can recruit. Maybe not like Cryer/liar/faith boy
Control the Sunshine State & sooner or later you'll control the country.
Or Edsell apparently
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by SteadfastNole on Feb 11, 2012 12:14 PM EST up reply actions
I think Muschamp can recruit
But I think this was a case of a kid wanting to stay local. Plus at UF he wouldve had a lot of expectations (gator fans I talked to thought he was a "lock’ to be the next Harvin…..lol), at Maryland hes the biggest name recruit they’ve landed in quite a while.
Obviously my comment was more tongue in cheek than anything
but
The jury is still out on whether muschamp can really recruit, yet. They missed on all their big target, and with the exception of Fowler, no one really wows me in their class.
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by SteadfastNole on Feb 11, 2012 1:39 PM EST up reply actions
Dante Fowler has all the talent in the world.....not sure he has the DRIVE to turn that talent into greatness.
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Are you looking at their Football class....womens soccer, intramural kickball? Because their Football class has some kids we would've taken for sure.
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Who would you trade for?
Its a solid class, but the players that would have really scared me all went elsewhere.
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by SteadfastNole on Feb 11, 2012 3:26 PM EST up reply actions
I want 3 of their Offensive Linemen, and Fowler.
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And one of their TEs
They can keep Benedict Fowler though
Heard FSU staff actually had Christo Kourtzidis
over Kent Taylor of FU because Kourtzidis is a better blocking TE and still has excellent pass catching ability.
I wouldn't trade Christo for Kent
If we could have added to our current class though. We certainly could use the depth at TE
Have my doubts in regards to that
They took Christo after being notified by Taylor that he was going to wait until later in the process to decide. And still would have taken him after Christo’s commit if that door been left ajar
by westcoastnolefan on Feb 11, 2012 6:17 PM EST up reply actions
Basically.
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would not surprise me in the least
the way he messed around all year, basking in the attention, i wouldnt be surprised to see that he had neglected his grades and celebrated his future early. call it a wicked case of senioritis. his senior gland was so inflamed, people kept mistaking it for another muscle.
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by nole07 on Feb 18, 2012 9:29 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Opinion
We dodged a bullet with Fowler
I accept Process...as long as it yields immediate beneficial results.
by fmnole on Feb 12, 2012 12:15 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Talented depth that never needs to be relied upon to start?
Not sure how that’s a “bullet”.
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How about...
the impact of a self-centered, complaining, whiny, btchlike team member and the disruption he can cause? You are probably too young to remember Benny Clyde, an all-world Juco who joined the 1973 Seminole Basketball team after we played UCLA in 1972 for the championship. He was the top JUCO recruit in the nation IIRC, and he was poison. We were preseason number 2, ended up very disappointed. Link
I accept Process...as long as it yields immediate beneficial results.
the fact that his name sounds like Bonnie and Clyde should have been a clue...
"I guess they have a reputation of being more of a tricky team and not being tough. You hit ‘em in the mouth, and they don’t like it. Other teams that have beat them just hit them in the mouth, so that’s what we started out with.’’ - Nick Moody
by nole07 on Feb 12, 2012 1:49 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Hugh Durham recruited him.
As I recall, we brought back for from the National Finals team and replaced the only graduate with someone who was much better. Ron king broke his ankle so it can’t all be put on Clyde, but it was common knowledge that he ruined us. Postscript. He was still drafted and played for the Celtics under Auerbach until, one game, Clyde told RA himself that he was no scrub and wasn’t going out on the floor to do mop up. That was his last day as a Celtic.
I accept Process...as long as it yields immediate beneficial results.
Yeah--not gonna remember much that happened years before I was born.
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Single-player impact in BB > single-player impact in FB
In BB, 1 player is 20% of the on-field product.
In football? 5%
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Good math.
Fuzzy thinking. You also probably weren’t born yet when the saying, “it only takes one bad apple to spoil the barrel,” but it’s probably true. Test this, first pee in a small cup of soup, then take a huge bowl…
I accept Process...as long as it yields immediate beneficial results.
A single player in Basketball represents 20% of the offense AND defense.
A single player in football represents 9% of offense OR defense.
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Or play behind FSU’s Oline cause then you count for 0%
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by SteadfastNole on Feb 14, 2012 12:42 AM EST up reply actions
Still not near the impact that one player has in Basketball. Cam wouldn’t have won anything without Fairley on D and a lot of luck. Peyton and any QB struggles without a Defense or help from others.
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Your math is still right on!
but I disagree that percentages apply.
If someone pees in your soup bowl, do you add more soup to make it okay?*
*With the obvious exception for split-pee.
I accept Process...as long as it yields immediate beneficial results.
I usually just throw the soup away.
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I'm not so sure this Jimbo fella is the right man for the job.
Possibly
Lot of people assuming he’s destined to fail because of something that could be simple immaturity.
The kid could very well get to UF and have his eyes opened. If so, he’ll be a tremendous football player. Oh well
Formerly known as Randall W. Spetman.
agreed
taking an 18 year old’s kid flip flopping about a life making or breaking decision as a sign that they don’t have what it takes to play some good ball is premature.
Guy has some serious talent. Now it’s going to be up to coaching to develop it. In this regards, I hope UF isn’t very successful :)
If he had signed with us
everyone would be glossing over his obvious immaturity and pronouncing him now mature as evidenced by him signing with us and the past would be forgotten. Strange how bias infects us all at every junture.
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i wouldnt, FWIW
i would have been concerned that he stays immature and never puts it together, making him a bust and a possible drain on the locker room morale.
"I guess they have a reputation of being more of a tricky team and not being tough. You hit ‘em in the mouth, and they don’t like it. Other teams that have beat them just hit them in the mouth, so that’s what we started out with.’’ - Nick Moody
Bias? What Bias?
I wanted him (the guy who committed to us for 14 months) to come. If he had stuck with us he would have been that guy—not the guy who flipped at the last minute to UF.
Him being that other guy, I suspect we dodged a bullet.
Though I admit, he could work out great for UF.
I accept Process...as long as it yields immediate beneficial results.
CJF is now taking the high road after taking a shot at Fowlering on NSD.
Life long ’Nole. Long time commit. Last second change of heart? Weird.
I would not be a bit surprised to find out that Dante is now second guessing his decision to be a tater.
I feel more like I do now, than I did before
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by HaveNoleOption on Feb 14, 2012 11:44 AM EST up reply actions
I am amazed at Jimbo's
ability to be PC about Fowler. I believe it is somewhat easier for him because he really has a lot of empathy for young guys trying to sort things out. I would have wanted to call Fowler names on national TV. Good for Jimbo; and, like he said, if he fears the depth chart we don’t want him.
I accept Process...as long as it yields immediate beneficial results.
Not trade...but take their OL for sure.
We obviously could’ve used Fowler or Bullard since we’re losing three next year. Kent would’ve definitely been a take. There’s six we could’ve used this year. Other kids would be FSU quality in a year of need. Don’t forget UF isnt UM. They’ll recruit well and theyll be back. Too much $ and commitment to pigskin not to.
Control the Sunshine State & sooner or later you'll control the country.
I’m not saying they didn’t bring in FSU quality kids. But in the same positions, I like our haul a lot better, and I like our overall class better even with less kids.
Obviously UF will always bring in good classes, but this year was a definite win for us. Its not much to go on, but Jimbo’s staff if the winner so far during his tenure in this state.
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by SteadfastNole on Feb 11, 2012 5:10 PM EST up reply actions
Well on second thought
Fowler had an argument with his coach, high school coaches bend over backwards for these kids, something doesn’t seem right-we will know in the future.
Bullard is having to go Jr college?
From what I heard the coach may have been an issue in this
I believe the coach was trying to make him play DT, when his future was DE, And this is after the coach used him i another position, maybe RB where he should not have been used and he got hurt. There was more to this if I remember.
Bottom line is. Rather him be a Nole. But not a huge loss. He has great potential and people saying glad we didnt get him as he could be a cancer dont realize if that happened h would simply get cut and wait a year and transfer, or shut up and play against good competition for the job and he could have been a star or a great great second string. Not losing sleep over him being gone, But would rather him have not been a Gaytor, even if I cant stand him now because of how it went down. He can still be a great player. has the ceiling. Just hope he doesnt realize it nearly what he could have if he was not scared of competition and working for a spot.
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I know some of UFs OL were good but
we didn’t need any frosh OL in 2011—we took 8 in 2011 and a couple took a RS.
Championship!
We took 7 Frosh OL and 1 left.
I’d like to not wait until we “need” OL to take them. Would definitely take a couple of UF’s OL. to recap our totals for HS OL it was
2010 – 1 Dan Foose
2011 – 7 then Prestwood left making 6
2012 – 0
If we had taken a couple this year maybe some of out D linemen could stay at D line
Barron, lovelady, Hart, Matias, Jackson, Carter, Pettis. thats 7 after Prestwood.
by BenDNole on Feb 13, 2012 10:10 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
Forgot Carter
Still 8 HS OL in 3 years is not a great building strategy unless you hit on pretty much all of them. this is why we are converting DL to OL
for 2012 we need upperclassmen OL
not freshmen. I would have been happy, however, signing one or more HS OL.
Championship!
For 2012 yes
But you don’t recruit for the current year, you recruit for the future.
You would trade edwards and casher for bullard and fowler?
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by SteadfastNole on Feb 13, 2012 12:24 AM EST up reply actions
DJ Humphries?
Looks like an NFL LT in the film I saw.
by PullingGuardGator on Feb 14, 2012 2:03 PM EST up reply actions
Very serious
If he’s a gator recruit he must be an unknown “nobody”.
I knew that
just pulling the leg of PullingGuardGator.
I think he can recruit.
Just closed horribly this year. If not for the DFJ flip, they wouldn’t have gotten anyone.
Bud
I saw you tweet about Mandarin High’s Opara kid. I’m actually a friend of his and just saw him at the Mandarin-Sandalwood basketball game last night.
FYU, he got kicked off the team for pushing a coach.
"Nothing like a tight one." -Heather Cox
Football team.
He didn’t play BBall. I meant I saw him in the stands.
"Nothing like a tight one." -Heather Cox
No, he's not a bad person.
Mandarin went winless this season and I can speak from experience, Mandarin’s coaches are idiots. No reason to push a coach but it was a frustrating year.
"Nothing like a tight one." -Heather Cox
Also, its my understanding the coach pulled one of these.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OqS5U4lSSVg
"Nothing like a tight one." -Heather Cox
Agree. Anybody that takes a flop on the field of play
is quite simply a very dirty player that has no regard for the mess they make.
Maximum penalty is duly called for.
There are nuances to flops, especially in basketball.
The root genetic precursor to the flop is the flail. Then there came, in order, the…
flail and shout,
the head shock,
the half-stagger,
two-step stagger,
two-step-stagger with shout,
butt flop with slide,
tower of pisa flop,
full pisa with shout and flail,
full pisa with shout, flail, and terminating crotch grab.
Think of these as part of a thinking player’s repertoire. (And yes, IMO I was good at several of the above in my industrial league days. Not an expert, but “accomplished.” Should I be ashamed?) :-)
I accept Process...as long as it yields immediate beneficial results.
The Death Penalty
Guy on a Buffalo
by SteadfastNole on Feb 11, 2012 7:59 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
on the spot with a chainsaw
A Seminole warrior killed in battle is a legend remembered. A Gator lost in battle becomes a pair of boots and a belt.
twitter of random stuff and tons of confessing FSU love Follow @caine115
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by caine115 on Feb 11, 2012 8:56 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Mand used to be good.
When i was playing in Jax Mand had lot of talent. My boys Tony Carter (FSU), Pat Clark (GT), K Lewis (QB at Indiana), they had tons of D-1 talent. There are too many High Schools in Jax now.
We did beat them though. +1 for the private school boys haha
NolesRx
NoleTide!
Yeah they haven't been the same
since the old HC died. I got there the year after he did.
Tony Carter used to come into one of my classes from time to time.
"Nothing like a tight one." -Heather Cox
Yeah Tony is a good guy, still going to Jax quite a bit.
He’s training in orlando now though.
NolesRx
NoleTide!
But the real question
is who would you drop from our recruiting class and replace with a UF signee? We have to assume we signed all we could take meaning if anyone else had asked to sign with us, we would have rejected him. Now, with that as a backdrop, and considering that we signed players based upon our needs, which player did we sign at a specific position that we would have preferred a Gator signee?
RWHUGHESJR
Annoyed Sports Radio Host: I'm looking for one brave Gators fan to call, just one. Oh so Gators fans talk trash all the time but when they play a game and lose nobody has the guts to call in?
Leonard: What are Gators?
Henry Desalvo: Football. College.
Confused Sports Radio Call In: I'm a Gators fan.
Annoyed Sports Radio Host: And what do you have to say?
Confused Sports Radio Call In: You said that Gators fans don't have the guts to call in.
Annoyed Sports Radio Host: Your point?
Confused Sports Radio Call In: My point is that I'm calling you now.
Leonard: [notices Snake and Eddie escorting Arthur wearing dark-colored pantyhose on their head] Is that him?
Henry Desalvo: I think we got Gator fans.
Actually i believe we had 2-3 more spots
Control the Sunshine State & sooner or later you'll control the country.
His question remains a good one.
I accept Process...as long as it yields immediate beneficial results.
Okay, i'll bite..
Taylor, Dunker & Humphries for Kourtzidis & the JUCOs. With that being said i think Watson has the highest potential of any but two years makes me less comfortable than 5 to play 4. So 3 kids id flat-out trade for.
Control the Sunshine State & sooner or later you'll control the country.
I lie Kourt over Taylor because FSU needs a better in-line blocker. NOL already in the fold to play H-Back
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Very valid point.
Iirc taylor also has a limited frame to work with. Just love the idea of a true receiving threat at TE. Hopefully NOL really continues to progress.
Control the Sunshine State & sooner or later you'll control the country.
RB target from Texas
who has put FSU in his top five (Top five subject to change though) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kUN5kMDQ78g
by westcoastnolefan on Feb 11, 2012 10:02 PM EST reply actions
Check out his early JR. highlights. He was good in 2010, he took it to an entirely different level in 2011.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YO9V9Y7UsX4&feature=endscreen&NR=1
You are right, we better keep our eye on this kid.
When ahead never let up. When behind never give up.
It is hard to overestimate how significant the advantage you gain from being underestimated.
by Chief Pit Bull on Feb 12, 2012 1:34 AM EST up reply actions
He's noticeably faster in 2011, and just ridiculous running in traffic.
Freeman-esque.
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That spin move he does at about 27 seconds is just SICK!
I havn’t had enough time to see video of all the RBs from the 2013 class, but from what I have seen, he is as good or better then any of them.
When ahead never let up. When behind never give up.
It is hard to overestimate how significant the advantage you gain from being underestimated.
by Chief Pit Bull on Feb 12, 2012 9:02 PM EST up reply actions
*Spelling- haven't, not havn't.
When ahead never let up. When behind never give up.
It is hard to overestimate how significant the advantage you gain from being underestimated.
by Chief Pit Bull on Feb 12, 2012 9:19 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah
His footwork and ability to manuver in confined areas is crazy. Super balance too. Only kid I’ve seen so far with better balance is Kyle Hicks, also from Texas, but Ford is faster.
by westcoastnolefan on Feb 12, 2012 11:26 PM EST up reply actions
Never mind the name, I brought up youtube. Great film imho.
Keith Ford is #1 on the Fab 55 list. The Statesman didn’t mention that he is considering FSU, but that doesn’t surprise me. They have an obvious dislike for FL schools, especially FSU (imagine their angst when UT missed out on MEJ.) Ford plays 5A competion, highest in Texas. He’s also considering Baylor, ND, Texas A&M and Bama, fwiw.
According to Bushido
He’s originally from Jacksonville, Fla.
"Nothing like a tight one." -Heather Cox
Highlights of 'would be' FSU commit Lorenzo Woodley
sophomore highlights http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qE0KxOO5woE
Jr highlights http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cO_zPiqQGL4
by westcoastnolefan on Feb 11, 2012 10:33 PM EST reply actions
no i think that is our possible 5th commit, johnny5 ALIVE (Michael Johnson)
There is a fanpost I created concerning the current target for 2013.
http://www.tomahawknation.com/2012/2/11/2791399/the-2013-recruiting-targets-from-a-fan
I am trying to update as soon as I get word.
by RobbSeminole on Feb 12, 2012 3:37 AM EST up reply actions
now the word is
his family convinced him to wait to commit, so he may not.
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thanks for the update...
its great having such a great network here
by RobbSeminole on Feb 12, 2012 10:19 AM EST up reply actions
Well apparently he couldn't wait
welcome to the noles
Tomahawk Nation- Great FSU football and English lessons!
No
Woodley was the kid who attended Jr day,received an offer, tried to commit but was told to wait.
by westcoastnolefan on Feb 12, 2012 4:09 AM EST up reply actions
Thanks.
Didn’t Ryan Green also try and commit? Or was close to it.
"Nothing like a tight one." -Heather Cox
No, he was close to committing
I think the staff would’ve accepted it. Just venturing a guess though
by westcoastnolefan on Feb 12, 2012 2:53 PM EST up reply actions
Here is the Orlando Sentinel's 2013 top 100 Florida prospects...
I got a question…is there a reason why FSU isn’t listed under the BK WR Fulwood? Is FSU not interested or is Ahmad not interested?
The one game I saw him in (vs Fletcher) it was obvious he was really the only threat on offense Kenny had and they still couldn’t stop him. The kid dominated through out the season.
Gripper
Tommyhawk Nation: Bobby Bowden is the all-time ACC leader in conference titles, conference wins, total wins, winning percentage, bowl appearances & wins and owns the longest conference winning streak.
Odd we havent offered
He is really high on Clemson, last I read.
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We would have a lot of ground to make up.
There are a number of Clemson boosters that surround the program at Bishop Kenny. (1 in particular has been taking him to a lot of college games)
Tim Tebow is poopie.
by NoleMeansYes on Feb 12, 2012 2:44 PM EST up reply actions
yes, if they don't shower later
I accept Process...as long as it yields immediate beneficial results.
no it is against the NCAA rules
You can’t take recruits to games
correct
The whole situation stinks terribly
Tim Tebow is poopie.
by NoleMeansYes on Feb 13, 2012 2:19 PM EST up reply actions
Some coaches I know at BK are FSU fans, but also played OL at kentucy....
They will guide him and the QB to good schools.
NolesRx
NoleTide!
How are the "Freak's" nephew
and Fred Taylor’s son not Gator locks? Compare that to the pipeline of legacies running through FSU over the years
A colleague of mine who is a big gator homer thinks he's going to Bama
by nolesblogger on Feb 15, 2012 10:37 AM EST up reply actions
I don't think Taylor is all that great TBH.
He hasn’t gone into his senior year yet and already has 1,061 carries against bad competition and people drool over his stats because of it. The kid just doesn’t impress me that much, he has no speed, explosiveness, and lacks in athleticism. He’s strictly an inside runner and w/ his skillset I see him struggling at the college level.
Non Mollare, non mai mollare!
ItaliaNole A.K.A. SavvysNole
Competition maybe horrible
But he’s legit when it come to playing RB
by Seminoles561 on Feb 16, 2012 10:18 AM EST up reply actions
You may be right.
Bryant for sure is better. Green and Lane may be.
by PullingGuardGator on Feb 16, 2012 11:57 AM EST up reply actions
Daniel McMillian-LB???
He’s committed to Florida, but do we have any shot at him?
no, the Canes have no shot at him
FSU has a great shot, though.
"I guess they have a reputation of being more of a tricky team and not being tough. You hit ‘em in the mouth, and they don’t like it. Other teams that have beat them just hit them in the mouth, so that’s what we started out with.’’ - Nick Moody
by nole07 on Feb 12, 2012 1:51 PM EST up reply actions 10 recs
#ISeeWhatYouDidThere
#AndIApprove
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where do we stand with leon mcquay?
by TheRenegade29 on Feb 12, 2012 3:19 PM EST via mobile reply actions
The Gata
Own Armwood…would be surprised if he’s ends up anywhere but UF.
by ExTacklingDummy on Feb 12, 2012 4:32 PM EST up reply actions
Bullard not making it into UF?
Sorry if this is not the right place.
by kenyan.english.tally.NOLE on Feb 12, 2012 4:32 PM EST reply actions
2012 breakdown by positional coaches.
Long time TN stalker, first time poster, this is the only reason I have internet service. Everyone here is great, insightful and hilarious. Thank you to you all. Where can I find the break down of the 2012 class by positional coaches like we had on here last year?
by Jesse Pache on Feb 12, 2012 4:39 PM EST via Android app reply actions 2 recs
I think (hope) you mean lurker not stalker
In any case, welcome. No idea, though, with regard to your question.
For every complex problem there is an answer that is clear, simple, and wrong.
-H.L. Mencken
by devnole on Feb 12, 2012 5:48 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Yes much more lurker then stalker. Thank you for the help there.
by Jesse Pache on Feb 12, 2012 5:56 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
I need to roam Cocoa Beach Gas Stations for....
by aznole85 on Feb 13, 2012 2:13 AM EST reply actions 2 recs
usf landed tshumbi johnson and xavier richardson from Immokalee
that school is so loaded…I believe Mackensie Alexander (UT commit) is arguably the best CB in fla
Booker T. Washington DB Michael Johnson
has committed #5
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Question regarding Coaching Turnover.
Should someone like Stoops or Elliot leave our staff, how much will that change commitments that they recruited? Will those recruits follow them? Or do we have guys go at them together, i.e. will Elliot and Craig recruit the same guy so if one leaves we still have contact and a preexisting relationship. It seems like in the next couple of years we will have to think about this as Stoops, Elliot, Craig, etc become candidates for other positions.
Greatness courts failure.
Recruiting is a team effort at most schools
The way Fisher describes it coaches are assigned areas and scan that area to find players of interest. Those players are then vetted by 2 other staff members. The player will actually be in contact with at least two coaches through phone calls, on campus and in home visits. Some recruits might develop a particular affinity for a certain coach (Goldman and Jernigan with Haggins for example) but if that coach leaves it isn’t like the recruit does not have a pre-existing relationship with another coach on the staff. It’s hard to say whether or not a player will look at other schools if a coach leaves but that’s Fisher’s strategy for dealing with staff turnover.
Does anybody know...
If the staff has any interest in re-offering Demar Dorsey post JC this cycle? What’s up with him?
The Spear has been planted! FEAR IT!!
saw an article where the JC cancelled the football team when the coach left
so, he is kind of in college football purgatory
FSU is no longer the type of program who has to take chances on risky players (character/grades/football smarts) in order to sign talented players.
Do. Not. Want.
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Was he at TCC for a bit after he left his first JC?
I thought I heard that or was it rumor.
That being said, even if he is/was elite talent. WAY TOO RISKY for this team. Shame to waste that ability
NolesRx
NoleTide!
super star ability with questions
Somebody will take a chance due to his ability, will it be us???
I heard the TCC thing also. From my understanding, he went to some community college in Michigan soon after.
by asianplayer on Feb 14, 2012 12:59 PM EST up reply actions
Grand Rapids Community College
And yes, the football program was dropped from GRCC.
DUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUVAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAL!
by DownTownJax on Feb 19, 2012 9:53 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
Does anyone else suspect that
we have current FSU coaches and current and past FSU players as posters? For me, looking for the A Team in camo is a whole nuther level of TN.
NoleDoc
See ya later gator hater
In a bowl, Seminole!
Don’t deflect, Dameyune.
My photo appeared in the Nightlife photo collage of the FSView for six weeks in-a-row. That’s who I am.
by RollNole5 on Feb 14, 2012 4:08 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
Don't be such a hardnose, The Trickett.
'Gentlemen, it is better to have died a small boy than to fumble this football.' John Heisman
Former football players or basketball players?
by bobbysura on Feb 14, 2012 4:55 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
It was a serious question but
I’m not in the know and I have no inside contacts. Judging by the response this must have been a really stupid question. I tell my students to ask away, hoping to prevent them from being intimidated and pulling away from the give and take, the hands-on learning experiences.
This is another serious question. Should a TNer like me, not a part of the inside crowd, just lurk and stay out of the dialogue? Thanks for any serious suggestions.
NoleDoc
See ya later gator hater
In a bowl, Seminole!
by Noledock on Feb 14, 2012 10:12 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
No way dude.
Really enjoy your questions and input.
I think you might have a few from time to time (especially ex-players or parents of recruits) but for the most part they stay away from fan forums.
I think that really holds true for coaches. They honestly just don’t have time for it.
Oh, and I may be wrong with this assessment.
Sorry if the responses rubbed you the wrong way, but please don’t ever feel like you don’t have a voice here. We love to joke around and in the off-season you may see it ramped up a bit more.
'Gentlemen, it is better to have died a small boy than to fumble this football.' John Heisman
Always ask. I think the “wha?” was in reference to the ATeam comment.
To answer your question, the posters on TN come from many places & let’s say take many “forms” … However I would say that coaches are not permitted to post information on message boards regarding recruiting or confidential university information.
To Natty and FSU and other Nole Bros and Sisters who responded
To my oddball question:
I’ve come to realize that, in all these years of adult endeavors and successes one still finds oneself dealing with the high school dynamics of “do I fit in?”. I REALLY appreciate the encouragement and the helpful perspective. I’m not too old to understand that I too need a helpful boost now and then it. Thanks!
Your comments are helpful and I believe the odd question I posed is answered.
Again, thanks everyone for being “in the know” enough to answer the question and sensitive enough to address the underlying worry.
Go NOLES!!!
NoleDoc
See ya later gator hater
In a bowl, Seminole!
I honestly thought it was some sort of joke I was missing. I encourage questions.
I discourage the same questions that appeared an hour before, or ones that were answered in the FAQ. Some posters have inside information. Most don’t. Most just follow the right people on twitter and read the right message boards.
Eddie Goldman, Ronald Darby, Colin Blake, Reggie Northrup please
Other schools too
Terry Saban posts on here all the time.
Is the poster known as FSU actually Terry Saban? And why does TN not want you to know?
by csfuu on Feb 15, 2012 10:01 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Join the crowd. Lurking is no fun. Unless it is outside someone’s window. And they love you. But just don’t know it yet.
My photo appeared in the Nightlife photo collage of the FSView for six weeks in-a-row. That’s who I am.
by RollNole5 on Feb 15, 2012 10:07 AM EST up reply actions 5 recs
Do I have to explain the difference between lurking and stalking?
AGAIN?
Geez RN5, you’d think one restraining order would be enough.
For every complex problem there is an answer that is clear, simple, and wrong.
-H.L. Mencken
Absolutely NOT!
Should a TNer like me, not a part of the inside crowd, just lurk and stay out of the dialogue?
Everyone here except Bud was an outsider at some point, until we became part of the TN community. But you should learn to ignore some of the wise-asses, such as yours truly.
>------::----::------->Spearing 'em and Scalping 'em like it's 1999
I'm not so sure this Jimbo fella is the right man for the job.
Z+
>------::----::------->Spearing 'em and Scalping 'em like it's 1999
I'm not so sure this Jimbo fella is the right man for the job.
And even Bud didn't START TN
Shot a Gator in Jean Shorts just to watch him die.
by AMFKNole on Feb 15, 2012 1:33 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Technically no, but realistically yes.
>------::----::------->Spearing 'em and Scalping 'em like it's 1999
I'm not so sure this Jimbo fella is the right man for the job.
That’s like saying Newton didn’t invent gravity
Guy on a Buffalo
by SteadfastNole on Feb 15, 2012 2:42 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
Al Gore invented Tomahawk Nation....
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by DRusso97 on Feb 16, 2012 10:12 AM EST up reply actions 3 recs
No more being serious for the next 24 hours Noledock.
Let’s hear a joke!
'Gentlemen, it is better to have died a small boy than to fumble this football.' John Heisman
OK!! . . . [please don't ban me or restrict my DEA license]
A Nole goes into a bar, sees a gator woman acting like an a$$ and promptly walks over and gobbles her entirely up, sans crocks.
The bar tender notices the feast and asks,
“Are you on drugs?”
The Nole was puzzled. “Why do you ask?”
The bartender says,
“Cause that was a barbiturate.”
NoleDoc
See ya later gator hater
In a bowl, Seminole!
by Noledock on Feb 16, 2012 9:14 AM EST up reply actions 3 recs
"Cause that was a bar b*tch you ate"
Get it? Get it?
For every complex problem there is an answer that is clear, simple, and wrong.
-H.L. Mencken
Going green!
Well done!
'Gentlemen, it is better to have died a small boy than to fumble this football.' John Heisman
Thanks for the green Natty!
The illumination from your Natty Light casts no shadows.
NoleDoc
See ya later gator hater
In a bowl, Seminole!
Thanks bro!!
NoleDoc
See ya later gator hater
In a bowl, Seminole!
You seem like a super guy.
But that was the worst joke I’ve ever heard, and I was a pharm tech for years in high school.
Formerly known as Randall W. Spetman.
so you're saying....
there’s a chance…
by xnolex on Feb 15, 2012 10:18 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
but when they hqve a few mins and a computer
Whos to say none of them every read a TN article and go more then 1 line cause the realize TNers “get it”
A Seminole warrior killed in battle is a legend remembered. A Gator lost in battle becomes a pair of boots and a belt.
twitter of random stuff and tons of confessing FSU love Follow @caine115
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haha
"If you want to understand a society, take a good look at the drugs it uses. And what can this tell you about American culture? Well, look at the drugs we use. Except for pharmaceutical poison, there are essentially only two drugs that Western civilization tolerates: Caffeine from Monday to Friday to energize you enough to make you a productive member of society, and alcohol from Friday to Monday to keep you too stupid to figure out the prison that you are living in."
- Bill Hicks (another dead hero)
Have you not met Volstud??
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Nate Andrews, wr
Fairhope, Ala. This kid looks like a very good prospect. Another steal from Alabama?
Andrews is a pretty good slot prospect
Would rather have Jason Smith from Mobile if that was at all possible
by westcoastnolefan on Feb 14, 2012 10:25 PM EST up reply actions
Baldwin county is as close to Tallahassee as it is to Tuscaloosa
Given Coach Craig’s history, being from that area, IMO we have a solid shot at anyone in southern Alabama. I don’t like the “steal” terminology, because Alabama never necessarily “locked down” the state. People just don’t venture into it often. “There ain’t a wall that says FSU can’t come in”
I love the idea of "stealing" any recruit from any
other state. We are very tribal animals and tend to think of our city, state, country, high school, religion, university, family, or circle of friends as our “people” or “pack”. My experience has shown that if you grew up in Alabama and played football, then it was almost a sacrilege to go to a school other than Bama or Auburn if either of those two schools wanted you. May be truer there than in any other state.
On those occasions that we can “steal” a kid from the very tight Bama “tribe”, I feel the Noles will Roll the Tide and Rock the War Eagle.
is marcell harris intrested in us
by TheRenegade29 on Feb 15, 2012 8:53 AM EST via mobile reply actions
So what's the story with Harris Bud?
I want this kid in our class!
Man this GAYtor lean crap is really starting to piss me off!
by Noletorious on Feb 16, 2012 12:33 AM EST up reply actions
So it’s a genetic condition?
For every complex problem there is an answer that is clear, simple, and wrong.
-H.L. Mencken
by devnole on Feb 16, 2012 9:27 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Yes, genetic
Trisomy 69.
NoleDoc
See ya later gator hater
In a bowl, Seminole!
FSuni, there is reptilian-level
Splicing and dicing going on!
;-)
NoleDoc
See ya later gator hater
In a bowl, Seminole!
Transformation, Transduction, maybe even some Conjugation
transposons are jumping around more than dante fowler…
NolesRx
NoleTide!
Legacy kids normally works for the good guys
Well I didn’t know he was a gayta legacy.
We need to have the kind of season that will make every kid interested in us.
An ACC Championship, another State Championship, the #1 Defense in the land, and a BCS Bowl Win. If we could do these things, it would definitely help our cause, and for sure kids would stand up to take notice that we are really back.
To do all of these things is one tall order, but none of them are unattainable. We have as much talent as any team in the NCAA, and we have experience this year also. We just need a little luck, to stay healthy, the ACC Refs to call good games, and we are good to go.
GO NOLES!
When ahead never let up. When behind never give up.
It is hard to overestimate how significant the advantage you gain from being underestimated.
by Chief Pit Bull on Feb 15, 2012 9:02 PM EST up reply actions
Bud, Michael, DA2, anyone for that matter
Is it possible to put up a list of people to follow on twitter for FSU recruiting purposes?
First you kill it at the gas station...
Now you’re reading my mind?
I was thinking of creating a list of people I suggest follow in twitter.
@TomahawkNation
@RunTheFloor <——FSU Basketball
@MichaelWarchant
@GeoffVogt16
@CoachColey
@MichaelatTN
@Bushido247
@JoshNewberg247
@CoreyLong
I don’t ever suggest paying for recruiting information (if you do, that’s your choice and nothing wrong with it). I think you can get all the information you want for free. Take advantage of their free twitters. You can get some tidbits from the paysites.
Eddie Goldman, Ronald Darby, Colin Blake, Reggie Northrup please
by DA-2 on Feb 15, 2012 3:26 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
For recruitniks
DA-2’s post should be in green and pasted to the top of every recruiting thread from this point forward.
I agree. I posted mine way late.
I do want to say @RunTheFloor is a must follow for ACC Basketball, in addition to the Seminoles.
"Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man." The Dude
by pasadenanole22 on Feb 15, 2012 3:33 PM EST up reply actions
Just a suggestion and trying to help
If you want a post to turn green, it has to be recommended at least twice. If you click on the “actions” tab it opens a couple additional tabs; one of which says “Rec”. Clicking on that tab will give it one of the two needed.
by Dr.KennethNoisewater on Feb 17, 2012 9:37 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Please explain what this "Twitter" thing is that you speak of...
Is it anything like Ebay?
'Gentlemen, it is better to have died a small boy than to fumble this football.' John Heisman
aznole85...I am not an expert on recruiting but...
These are who I follow on twitter and have kept me informed 3000 miles away.
@tomahawknation(obviously)
@busido247/scott
@tomloy247
@JNewbergESPN/Jamie Newberg
@GeoffVogt16
@CoreyLong
And for Friday Night football in addition to the above
@BigCountyPreps1; @RecruitZoneFLHI; @FLgridironpreps
Waited too late but now following
@yssd YouthSportsSanDiego
There are many more
"Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man." The Dude
by pasadenanole22 on Feb 15, 2012 3:27 PM EST up reply actions
The hits just keep coming.
Combine the input from the left coast with DA-2 and your smart phones will never stop vibrating. Girlfriends and wives will find uses for it as well.
There’d have to be a joke in there for it to be too soon.
My photo appeared in the Nightlife photo collage of the FSView for six weeks in-a-row. That’s who I am.
by RollNole5 on Feb 15, 2012 11:10 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
There was, I guess I was the only one that got it though.
He was good at recruiting young boys…
At least I have Chicken!
-Leeroy Jenkins
Will Likely
If he plays offense where would he be best at? Running back, slot receiver, or both?
I like him at RB
But at WR he made some great plays this past season. Check Dwyer game and Delray AH game
by Seminoles561 on Feb 16, 2012 10:23 AM EST up reply actions
who are we looking at as far as safety prospects go
if los moves to offense and joyner leaves we won’t have a whole lot of depth at the safety position and I’m pretty sure since pj will play corner we didn’t pull in in safetys last cycle so besides marcell harris and leon mcquay which I have. Been told so far are likely to be gators who else are we looking at
by TheRenegade29 on Feb 15, 2012 8:52 PM EST via mobile reply actions
We have Johnson
Harris, Carter, Lyons, Willis, Neal, Robbins, Garner, Washington and some other OOS kids im sure.
NolesRx
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One of my personal favorites
is Vonn Bell from Georgia http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w7SbwTUHGdU. Problem is, he’s a lifelong Vol fan who apparently could care less that they suck. Would love to land him and Nick Washington though. Love Harris, but as it already been stated, he and McQuay are pretty much a pipedream
by westcoastnolefan on Feb 15, 2012 9:54 PM EST up reply actions
much rather land mcquay tha harris
Jmo harris looks more like a linebacker
by TheRenegade29 on Feb 15, 2012 10:24 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
So I'm guessing our chances of pulling.....
Tunsil are not very good?
by Noletorious on Feb 16, 2012 12:44 AM EST up reply actions
Thats what most say about Harris
but he’s 197 pounds so he can just grow into a big safety. I wouldn’t hold out for either one at this point. UF absolutely owns Armwood (McQuay’s HS)
by westcoastnolefan on Feb 16, 2012 3:13 AM EST up reply actions
well i mean u could make a case that we own first coast and mcmillan is a verbal to florida
Has leon came out and said florida was the favorite
by TheRenegade29 on Feb 16, 2012 8:05 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
McMillian (according to insiders)
never was an FSU lean and this was stated prior to his commit to UF. It was always understood that it would be a competition for his services. McQuay has said that Florida was his favorite but that was during the season. I suppose anything is possible but the staff would need to actually have some meaningful dialogue with the kid and get him on campus, which will likely be a chore
by westcoastnolefan on Feb 16, 2012 11:52 AM EST up reply actions
Anyone seen that RB from Fletcher HS (Jax Beach)
I think he is flying way under the radar. I like him over several kids we have offered at RB
I like Green, Turman, Ford and Bryant
A LOT
Woodley is good also
No chance with Taylor
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EJ Levenberry said he hasn't heard from FSU in a month...kinda surprised
Michigan has made him a priority
if true, that is PATHETIC
dude is extremely talented, and we were already on him a while ago.
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Yes, and he isn't
happy about it apparently, going to Bama’s spring game(95k attendance last year) and Michigan’s(his 2nd trip) now. He still lists FSU in his top 3 though.
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A month no contact
would lead you to think there is more to it
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still has FSU in his top 3
Even without contact in a month
by nole your enemy on Feb 16, 2012 6:27 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
as in, one side is disinterested?
either we saw targets we had a better shot at and backed off him, or he saw how many LBs we were looking at and was turned off?
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As in, I am not sure I would believe Levenberry
by Bud Elliott on Feb 16, 2012 12:43 PM EST up reply actions
fishing for publicity, or maybe a few more phone calls?
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Or
Maybe the interviewer has poor social skills and does such a good job picking up on sarcasm. “Oh, FSU, yeah haven’t heearrrd from them in months”
by scotradamus on Feb 16, 2012 11:40 PM EST up reply actions
Bushido reported it
So I doubt that.
Shot a Gator in Jean Shorts just to watch him die.
by AMFKNole on Feb 17, 2012 2:52 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
McMillian to UF and Matthew Thomas being a Miami lean
hearing this about loosing Levenberry really blows….What are the odds for Thomas/ Kirkland/Johnson trio coming to FSU? Im hoping McMillian pulls a Fowler on singing day, him committing to UF was kind of a shocker imo.
Pretty sure it was said on twitter than FSU leads for Thomas now.
by TimScribble on Feb 16, 2012 11:46 AM EST up reply actions
Heard this, too, but Miami is close.
I hope the sanctions come out before next NSD
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by newdynastynole on Feb 16, 2012 12:03 PM EST up reply actions
Also helps that Johnson from his school committed to FSU.
And I think FSU is showing interest in some 2014 kids.
by TimScribble on Feb 16, 2012 12:59 PM EST up reply actions
Isn't Thomas a little light in the britches to be a DE for the Nole?
Are we recruiting him as a LB?
My bad
I thought I saw Thomas listed as a DE somewhere.
George Williams from Miami
are we recruiting this kid? Has a Miami offer and could be nasty after 20 more pounds.
liked the video this dude blows people up
He looks like he isn’t very fast do u know his 40 time height and weight?
by TheRenegade29 on Feb 16, 2012 8:36 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
His video has been tossed around like Jeff Lucs did.
I expect a ton of offers to follow. I hear he likes Miami and went to their Jr day on Wednesday.
JOSH CARDIELLO - OG from Buford GA
The kid has offers from UF, UGA, and Scar. I also read his mom is a FSU alum and the family is from tally area and he grew up a nole fan. SInce were going to take several OLinemen this cycle, I hope we give him some attention soon.
Is Tunsil going to be an uphill battle?
It seems like he is going to a SEC school.
Absolutely will. Some kids are SEC only. not much you can do.
by Bud Elliott on Feb 16, 2012 12:44 PM EST up reply actions
like timmy jernigan
I hope Timmy Magic talks to Tunsil a good deal about FSU….I know they are close still
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I played on a travel basketball team with him
I think he’s a Nole if we offer him
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by unconqured15 on Feb 16, 2012 12:32 PM EST up reply actions
We have been giving Cardiello plenty of attention
And accordingly, he will be at our second junior day.
He tells me it's between us and UGA
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by unconqured15 on Feb 17, 2012 1:39 PM EST up reply actions
work on him!
probably dont have to tell you that though.
I'll try haha
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by unconqured15 on Feb 17, 2012 3:05 PM EST up reply actions
Does he have any female relatives......?
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Perhaps old news, and a bit off-topic, but...
“Florida tight end A.C. Leonard was arrested Wednesday and charged with misdemeanor battery after a woman alleged he shoved her, dragged her by her hair and threw her out of their Gainesville apartment.” per ESPN.
wow
Gators sure do treat their women real good…
“Time to leave, b@#$%”
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wow
Gators sure do treat their women real good…
“Time to leave, b@#$%”
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Jimmy's Roid Rage
“You’re not leaving me…..you try to leave me and i’ll kill you b@#$%”
“You just keep your mouth shut and do as your told”
Well at least he didnt threaten to kill her and then steal her credit card
by SteadfastNole on Feb 16, 2012 1:17 PM EST up reply actions
Soooooo..................he'll be a Captain this season??
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by DRusso97 on Feb 16, 2012 1:19 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
To be fair, A.C. has never been right since this
by nolesblogger on Feb 16, 2012 2:42 PM EST up reply actions
Every time I see this highlight I can’t help but laugh.
Now every time I see it will think karmas a bitch
by nole your enemy on Feb 16, 2012 3:06 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
Karma usually goes "Do bad thing, bad thing happens to you" this would appear to be the other way around.
Shot a Gator in Jean Shorts just to watch him die.
by AMFKNole on Feb 17, 2012 2:55 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Very true, but hopefully they show this video every time they talk about his run in with the law.
by nole your enemy on Feb 17, 2012 3:38 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
Actually the Buddhist concept of karma is that it's a blind force.
It has to do with chains of cause and effect that trickle down through history. Although, one’s decisions can trigger new karmic cycles. Om.
I went to UC and my buddy is the HC there now.
I talked to AC after this hit. Lets just say he didnt want to hear about it haha
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Who is your friend that is the HC?
My old youth pastor is now the head pastor at the UC’s church.
David Penland
grew up with him and played ball together. Good guy.
also Charles Hunt Jr (former FSU WR, and son of FSU great Charles Hunt), Charlie Jr plays for the arena champs (Hunt Jr =Jax Sharks @ LB now) and helps coach there also.
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That is cool. Frank Ciresi is the guy that was over us when we were kids. Also coached me in HS football.
That was up here in Louisville, KY. Pretty sure he is the the pastor at University now.
by TimScribble on Feb 17, 2012 10:13 AM EST up reply actions
Small world about you knoowing Frank.
My parents just moved to Georgetown, KY.
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Small world cont.
My brother is an Alumnus of Georgetown College as well.
by flfisher1423 on Feb 17, 2012 12:32 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
So I know it is really early
But based off of the early rankings it seems like we aren’t in the mix for some of the big names like we were last year. Last year we had ME Jr early, Winston, and then Goldman late. Don’t forget we HAD Fowler early… bastard.
I thought we were in it for Levenberry but it seems like that ship is sinking. Same goes for Tunsil, but it now looks like SEC for him. I know Knedmiche has us listed but he seems like a reach at this point.
Like I said it is really early but I would still like to see us more involved with the Elite prospects early on and that doesn’t seem to be the case. Am I right or am I forgetting a few?
you kind of answered your own question
Its still early with a ton of kids uncommitted. However, Golson is an elite prospect in a position of need. But i think we are sitting pretty at most positions. Look at the RB position for instance, we will take 2-3 of them and we are positioned well for several top kids.. Green, Bryant, Turman, woodley, ford,etc.
As far as Tunsil goes, Jernigan was thought to be a SEC/UF lock. Considering the UF coaching issues(just signed a OL coach…from Minnesota)and the fact UF signed Humphries and Dunker last year, added to our recent success of beating UF, I think we still have a decent shot at Tunsil.
I'm not close to worried.
This time last year FSU had 6? commitments (one a kicker). One three star and four four stars (depending on where you rank Fowler and Casher).
You have to realize there’s variance and each situation is unique. FSU was extremely lucky to have MEjr’s dad be a FSU grad. Casher being a FSU fan from Alabama was even more shocking to me.
Summer is when I think a lot of stuff figures itself out, and you start to notice who’s positioning themselves for a top 10 ranking. If you ask me today, FSU will once again finish top 5, but not willing to bet top 3. Class size, talent in the state and a National Championship berth will propel that. However, Florida and Miami are recruiting well, FSU’s season wasn’t phenomenal, and FSU doesn’t have those quick ties to the early five stars it did last year (Casher, Winston, Edwards). So I’d bet in the 3-6 range for FSU’s finish.
Eddie Goldman, Ronald Darby, Colin Blake, Reggie Northrup please
Remember
who was winning championships when these kids were 12 -14 years old? Riiight, smashing their ass 3 years in a row+ having an excellent season should go a long way. Our staff rocks have faith.
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I agree
I think we are going to have a high class ranking mainly due to class size but I think we will have more quality than Miami’s class from last year. Just wondering who will be headliners will be when it is all said and done.
I think were all wondering that but
There are 11.5 months to go. And where are you hearing FSU’s "ship is sinking with Levenberry and Tunsil? FSU has as good a shot with them as anyone. DA-2 is right, summer is the time when picture seems to get clearer.
Rivals posted the remaining 4 stars (for those who love star rankings)
Shelton and Senat recieved their 4 *s. IMO Bain is still raw but eventually should earn a fourth star with some camps and a strong senior year showing more technique rather than being just a freakish GAM.
im not surprised that senat got a 4th star but i am surprised that shelton got one
I know combine numbers aren’t everything but the kid posted some embaressing numbers for the 40 and his vertical jump I’m not saying he isn’t a good player just sayin I’m surprised rivals made him a 4 star
by TheRenegade29 on Feb 16, 2012 6:55 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I like him.
I think LSU leads at the moment, but hopefully we stay on him, especially if they don’t get the locker room stuff cleared up at LSU soon.
Glad to see rivals gave Deadrin Senat and Sojourn Shelton the 4stars they deserve!! next up
Maquedius Bain and Michael Johnson def think both are 4star worthy….just thought i let everyone know those who care about the 4 or 5 stars thats been complaining about fsu not recruiting like UF that is….hopefully we can add a few more on junior day!!
by FearThaSpearWeAreFSU on Feb 16, 2012 7:24 PM EST reply actions
Anyone know if we have a realistic shot at De’Asian Richardson?
by CrimiNole Defense on Feb 16, 2012 8:53 PM EST reply actions
Should be talking to him soon for Dot Com.
by Bud Elliott on Feb 16, 2012 10:10 PM EST up reply actions
okay
I was going to have a hard time reconciling this with your twitter exchanges w Michael L yesterday.
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I'll cut right to the chase
Who are some of the kids we have a good chance of landing as of now? Any leads, leans or Nole fans from this bunch?
It’s way, way early. Coaches still evaluating.
by Bud Elliott on Feb 16, 2012 10:11 PM EST up reply actions
by Bud Elliott on Feb 16, 2012 11:04 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Newberg says FSU is first offer. http://floridastate.247sports.com/Article/Noles-first-to-offer-Florida-WR-61790
by Bud Elliott on Feb 16, 2012 11:05 PM EST up reply actions
nice
6’4" and 175 lbs? I assume he’ll put weight on with our S&C program. Bud, what’s your take on Tony and his skill set?
by nolesdude on Feb 16, 2012 11:12 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
No one has evaluated him up until now? What classification of hs fball is this?
Looks like an awesome awesome prospect. Wow.
Evans High is in Orlando
They play Edgewater, Dr Phillips, Apopka, Boone…good talent there. Last big time recruit out of Evans I think was Brandon Siler at LB.
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by zewhitedevil on Feb 17, 2012 7:11 AM EST up reply actions
any other reason we're the first to offer?
grades, etc.? I knew that FL was deep at WR this year, but this situation is a shock.
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Maybe we just have the best talent evaluators in the nation on this staff
They are not scared to be first to offer kids they want. #AggressiveRecruiting
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by FSuni on Feb 17, 2012 9:21 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Looks like a Nole to me.....?
Does anybody identify talent better than this staff?
oh my...
a DREAM offer…
let’s hope he signs!!!
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by RobbSeminole on Feb 17, 2012 4:40 AM EST up reply actions
at like 2:00...
I like how he comes back for the ball, and STILL manages to run past three defenders…
I like the potential…the skill is already there…
by RobbSeminole on Feb 17, 2012 4:41 AM EST up reply actions
I played him as a freshman
last year shut him down 1 catch 5 yards. He is very…awkward. Just hasn’t grown into his body yet.
by reid-the-manuel on Feb 17, 2012 7:26 PM EST up reply actions
holy cow
6’4" moves like that? when is the last time you saw a kid that tall move that well, both laterally and top end? and his hands dont suck… how is this kid unknown?
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Some saying similar to Green in HS.
Could be a mix of Andre Johnson and AJ Green if he adds some good weight.
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I like the AJ Green comparison
obviously that’s saying alot. I like all the blocking he does down field
Definitely reminds me of AJ. Especially wearing that #8.
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holy cow
This kid needs to be a Nole.
Tim Tebow is poopie.
by NoleMeansYes on Feb 17, 2012 2:43 AM EST up reply actions
Very impressive
Definitely does not look to be 6’4" though. But I would love him in this class.
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by newdynastynole on Feb 17, 2012 8:41 AM EST up reply actions
He is.
I saw a pick of him next to andre johnson, he was taller. he was also throwing up the “U” not that that matters…
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Great to hear… well not the part about the U lol
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by newdynastynole on Feb 17, 2012 8:54 AM EST up reply actions
NIce film, I hate how they speed up the film though. Hard to gauge his speed that way.
Good size, long frame, very elusive for a guy his size in the open field. I don’t think he would be a sleeper in any other year considering how early it is in the recruiting game. This year though with everything going so fast he is a definite sleeper. Anyone have any numbers on this guy?
Great vision in the open field....especially on those punt returns.
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Heard that FSU offered CB Noel Ellis from Karr, here in New Orleans.
He was my brother’s teammate the last 3 years. Initially, I was somewhat surprised by the offer. Karr is a heavy off coverage/cover 3 zone team, and he plays his zones really well. I’ve rarely seen him get beat or let the WR get behind him. When WRs get behind him, he’s usually baiting the QB, and he ends up breaking on the ball (and often intercepting it). He made two athletically impressive interceptions this season that I can recall from the top of my head. One against O. Perry Walker high school (rival school), which he used a trail technique to bait the QB (signed with Tulane) to throwing to the WR in the corner of the end zone, and he skied up and snatched it, which sealed the win for Karr. The second was in the state championship game, in which he made an interception on a ball that I thought sure was going to go over his head.
Has a good bloodline, as his dad played for Tulane back in the day. He’ll be a 3rd year starter this upcoming season. Has progressed each year. The main things I don’t like about him is his slender build (which obviously doesn’t concern FSU with Waisome on board and Shelton verbally committed) and he has a tendency to come up soft against the run/quick pass game. He comes up hard every now and then, which makes me think “why don’t you do that all the time?” Not sure what he thinks about the program at this point; however, if FSU is serious about the kid down the road and the feelings are mutual, I’m sure it wouldn’t be too hard to set up an interview with Tomahawknation because he’s cool with my brother and I went to school with Karr’s DB coach.
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Is that Deon Sanders grandson? Baiting QB throws deep and comes up soft against the run sometimes…..
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Lol
Sounds like it huh? lol. But no, Deion specialized in man coverage, Karr plays zone pretty much the whole game. I heard he did pretty well at one of the LSU camps, but I want to see him play man coverage against top competition with my own eyes because I’ve rarely (if ever) seen him do it. I’m still somewhat surprised he got an FSU offer. When I see him play, “FSU” wasn’t the type of school that came to mind. I’m happy for the kid though.
Jonathan McCrary QB from Ga
Sorry for the typo.
Many thought FSU, Bama, and maybe even UGa are possible choices.
UGa has Brice Ramsey committed already though.
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IMO will not stick.
As FSuni describes below, they’ll need to bring in more talent, and it’ll need to be relative to the rest of the SEC, not Wake Forest and UConn.
I am easily the biggest Vandy homer on TN, and will argue in their favor to a fault, but I just do not see Vandy being able to sell enough to keep him there.
If they DO have success (Which I’m guessing McCary thinks they will), then obviously Franklin probably won’t be there. That’s a huge risk at a school like Vandy, whose funds are limited. They could very easily strike out and hire a guy who could Crowton McCrary into forgottenville.
I get that kids value academics, which is very, very refreshing, but this is one commitment that I don’t see sticking. Once he makes visits and sees the talent disparity, I expect him to commit to a program that has more resources to help him develop.
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Might have been waiting to see what O'Brien was going to do?
Oh.. I mean Edsall.
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So which positions are the best (deep & talented) in the 2013 cycle?
seems to me 2013 is a good cycle for WR, LB, OL, DB & DL. There are some elite QBs but not many good ones; RB seems to lack a good number of elite guys but there are many very good ones.
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RB is pretty good this year in FL (Bryant, Green, Turman, Woodley, Jamari Smith (way underrated), Henry, Chestnut, Talyor...etc..)
WR is loaded (Stevens, Coley, Cunningham) , LB is solid (Thomas is awesome) , OL is okay and maybe quality 3* and 4* plus Tunsil. DT (other than our two commits) is not to great. QB’s is weak (Cord S is good). CB and S is loaded (long list, maybe listed above)
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I really want Steven, Adams, and Coley at WR
I love Switzer’s hands, Wilson is a long time Noles fan. Cunningham is a stud also.
also forgot Fulwood from BK in jax. Def want here, i’ll try to talk to him next time I see him.
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Coley, Stevens and Cunningham....yes please
Agree on Switzer as well, Great athleticism, quickness and hands. I hear Coley really likes UF though.
I disagree on the DTs. Brantley is the best DT in the state, IMO, and Bostwick is very good as well.
Calloway had a very good performance in the state title game
He registered 3 sacks that game and I think he is considered more of a run stopper. I think he might be a UF lean.
Impressive.
I am lucky if I remember to grab my lunch going out of the door in the mornings.
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In addition,
Its important to remember kids will grow, players will emerge, videos will surface, players will get injuried, camps, etc….
These lists will change over the course of the year.
But yeah this cycle will produces lots of quality players. Great timing for us since we will be able to take a lot.
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One position that is pretty weak is DE
Im not even sure if were strongly in the mix with any top DE recruit from florida. i would like to hear more about deasian richardson. sounds like stacy thomas has Florida as his dream school but we atleast offered. kinda sucks but i hope we keep looking….
I'm not sure about that
the #1 player nationally is a DE and there are 28 DEs in the Rivals250 (w/ an average ranking of 126). IMO there are a lot of quality DEs.
FYI: my OP wasn’t intended to limit 2013 kids to FL—it was about 2013 kids nationally. It is fair, however, to point out that FSU’s best chances are with kids in the SE region.
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Yeah i think fsudude was restriction his post to Florida only.
DE is pretty good nationally. Robert N is a beast.
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yeah my bad, im just discussing FSU recruiting.
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2013 OL class
I have a feeling that our 2013 OL class is going to be VERY good. Maybe not as big as our 2011 class, but the quality will be higher (on average).
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by newdynastynole on Feb 17, 2012 10:46 AM EST reply actions
I'd say 4-6 players.
one 5*, four 4*, and maybe a 3* center or late addition (near NSD, like T Jackson for 2011)
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Pretty much what I was thinking
Not sure of the 5* though, unless we get Tunsil. Are there any others that we have a good shot with?
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by newdynastynole on Feb 17, 2012 10:54 AM EST up reply actions
you really think we have a shot
at Tunsil? We are not even in his top 5.
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I'll agree that we have a good chance to duplicate 2011 given
the available 2013 OL talent pool, which I think is very good, e.g., better than 2012. Still we need to sign them.
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Not sure if this is VIP or Free
we have offered or will offer these kids… FSU is on the ball.
http://247sports.com/Article/Five-on-the-rise-in-Florida-61841
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Speaking of Stevens (above)
This was in the comments of the article:
Commenter: Stevens film looks great. I hope Jimbo and company reel this kid in. I could care less what his ranking is. His size and athleticism is very impressive.
JC Shurburtt: The second tape we watched, we felt that he was a Top247 guy. We will update again next Tuesday.
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by newdynastynole on Feb 17, 2012 11:16 AM EST up reply actions
Nope.
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by newdynastynole on Feb 17, 2012 11:23 AM EST up reply actions
I dont comment on 247
Just a lurker
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by newdynastynole on Feb 17, 2012 11:23 AM EST up reply actions
Heuerman would be a great TE prospect but OSU just offered and his bro plays there
Much better than Kent Taylor imo
Is it okay if
FSU used that Jerry Lin be my date girl on youtube for recruiting?
by nole your enemy on Feb 17, 2012 1:26 PM EST via iPhone app reply actions
I heard she is really an Alpha Chi Omega not a KD so she is trolling the other sorority HARD.....
Nobody at this point thinks she is for real. Even Jim Rome was calling it fake.
by Blue Horseshoe on Feb 17, 2012 2:17 PM EST up reply actions
I don't think our Admissions office allows applicants with that kind of accent.
She’s sitting in a sorority at Rutgers, pranking.
rutgers doesn't have girls NEAR that caliber
"But they understand expectations don’t win games. And just because you’re picked to win, they don’t give you the trophy when the season starts. And we tell our kids that we have to form great habits and have great work ethic and form our identity as a team. We just have to reinforce that everyday because as we tell them, the pressure of expectations is only there if we aren’t prepared for them. If we prepared for them and we’re prepared mentally and physically, the pressure of the expectation won’t bother us." - Jimbo Fisher
Been waiting on this kid's film
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PWU42ijaBVs Well schooled player. Uses his hands to keep blockers out of his frame very well and rush the passer
by westcoastnolefan on Feb 17, 2012 8:05 PM EST reply actions
would he fit our system?
Good tape. a lot of rushing from the end position though.
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To bad he is playing DE- a bit undersized for fsu imo
you would like to see some video of him playing LB.
He's projected as a LB
Plenty of kids play snaps at DE in HS and move to LB (Telvin and Terrence Smith come to mind), including some kids we’re looking at like Matthew Thomas, Yannick Ngakoue and Quinton Powell. Not at all uncommon
by westcoastnolefan on Feb 17, 2012 9:40 PM EST up reply actions
Definite want. Love the way he tracks the ballcarrier down through traffic...
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Kelvin Taylor follows his pops
Adam Lane and Taylor to UF, they are most likely done at the position. Still a lot of good running backs to pick from in the state. Folston, Green, Woodley, Thurman, Chestnut.
I felt like he was like MEJr for us.....
Just tough to see him going anywhere except UF with the family connection.
i would take pender over taylor anyday
kid jukes/dances alot and does not have great speed imo(already a knee surgery and with the amount they give him the ball he is going to be a battered gaturd when he shows up). A solid pickup for them nonetheless.
Im still hoping for Green and Turman for 13’.
Just met James Coley
in the local wine shop…class act
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by TLHWG on Feb 18, 2012 12:22 PM EST via Android app reply actions
So only the top shelf Night Train for him?
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UF has picked up 3 so far today.
Kelvin Taylor RB, Rodney Davis WR, Quinton Powell.
If these commits stick, UF could be done at RB and LB.
S Nick Washington
also committed.
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by EnterTheOcho on Feb 18, 2012 5:23 PM EST up reply actions
yea that really blows
I know Its early but it is very disappointing how it seems like we are missing out on a lot of good players especially to hopefully we get some bigtime commits at. Our next juniour day
by TheRenegade29 on Feb 18, 2012 7:36 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Rodney Davis?
Davis is a sleeper
so much so, he is still a secret. Tim let the cat out of the bag by mistake.
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Is uf having a junior weekend this weekend?
Gotta be some reason for today’s success.
I just read on 247 that they are.
No worries we’ll still get ours.
now #1 for 2013
on 24/7 rankings
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They had friday night lights if i'm not mistaken
I had no doubt that Florida would get theirs. I’m sure we will get ours too, I’m not concerned about recruiting even though I don’t think we will have as great of a year as the last two. I’m more worried about what will happen to recruiting if the football season doesn’t pan out. If we lose 3 to 4 games and don’t even make it to the ACC championship….. then we have some BIG problems. There is soo much talent out there this year that i’m not worried.
I do think that we are trying to recruit more nationally. I’d personally like to see us stick instate a little bit more but last year we got some very good players from out of state. Though I think that most players in the state of Florida prefer UF, which is probably do to their recent success and that they play in the SEC. Like I said though I feel the next 3 years of recruiting success will be determined by what happens on the field this year for FSU.
You mean like uF's records have panned out for the last two seasons?
You say that you are sure we will get ours too but are concerned about results on the field next year. If uF loses three or four games and fails, once again, to make it the SEC championship game – which is a real possibility- do you think recruits will be looking elsewhere or does that just happen at Florida State?
I feel more like I do now, than I did before
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by HaveNoleOption on Feb 19, 2012 10:27 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
What I'm trying to say is...
Unfortunately, UF has more going for them, especially right now. They have won two national championships within the last 6 years, they play in the SEC ( which is a big deal to a lot of recruits, because a lot of players want to play against the best and well that is the SEC ), they have a great academics, lots of funding, good facilities. etc. Listen I’m a nole til I die but to say UF doesn’t have a natural advantage in a lot of aspects is just plan foolish. I’m not a naive fool, I tell it how it is. So yes if both teams had mirror seasons for lets say 3 years, regardless of coaching situations and all other situations. UF would have more success recruiting then us. You proved my point for me actually, look at how bad UF was last year, yet this still had a pretty good class last year, yeah this missed out on a few but they also had 3 five stars signed. Now look at how they are doing this year so far, Taylor is almost a given, but they rest of the guys they signed are all very good. Maybe if I write with a little more homerism and passion you might see what I’m saying……
Unfortunately FSU will always have a steeper hill to climb to win a national championship, but that is makes being Nole that much sweeter… if I started out or ended like that would it be more agreeable or clear?
I think all that the UF example shows is that
W/L record has little effect on recruiting.
Championship!
is ryan green actually considering playing basketball in college?
by TheRenegade29 on Feb 19, 2012 11:07 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
I don’t think he has the height to make it worth it, glad to hear how athletic he is though. Really want to land him, if for no other reason to keep adding Green(e)’s to the roster.
by CrimiNole Defense on Feb 19, 2012 11:57 AM EST up reply actions
keep this up
and we can say that we have more Green than Auburn
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I think it is safe to say we’d still have less green than TCU though.*
*knock on wood
by CrimiNole Defense on Feb 19, 2012 7:12 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
So the Crocs are on track to land the top 4 S's.....
in the state of Florida (as of now).
Neal, Washington, Harris?, McQuay?
INSANITY !
I can’t imagine they could land all 4.
by CrimiNole Defense on Feb 19, 2012 7:52 AM EST up reply actions
they really cleaned up this weekend
they pull 6 kids is amazing,7 of their 9 are 4 stars already, interested to see how our upcoming Jr weekend goes.
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Like Michael@TN was telling you guys, the Gators had a big head start and FSU had to keep up.
They’re prime for a great class.
Eddie Goldman, Ronald Darby, Colin Blake, Reggie Northrup please
There depth chart is really wide open
It is impressive to see how they have done with such a poor start in the playing season.
I've heard this said before several times...
But I don’t understand – Jimbo and his staff have been here quite a bit longer than Muschamp & Co. – how is it that they could get a head start when we’ve had more time as a collective unit to scout and recruit the state? I am not trying to be dramatic, nor am I terribly worried about how our class will turn out. The sky is definitely not falling. But I just don’t get it. UF is absolutely cleaning house right now. Yes, the talent is deep in FL this year so there are still tons of kids left for us, yes they have better resources, and yes they have won two NC’s in the last few years so there will be lots of kids who’ve grown up UF fans – but how, with a program that’s gone through x amount of OC’s in the past four years, are we playing catch up? If we don’t land a couple good commits at our upcoming JR day next weekend, I feel like some of these questions will be much more warranted.
Just commenting. Not worried in the least bit.
Eddie Goldman, Ronald Darby, Colin Blake, Reggie Northrup please
I dont think the NCs really matter that much in terms of their recruiting
Completely new coaching staff. uf has resources, in a good state for talent and in a good conference; but they also have more spots open in terms of their depth chart. Kids that are looking to play early have a better shot at uf than fsu right now (espeically on offense).
Again, as I stated earlier we still have 11.5 months to go and the summer camp circuit also. Plus do we expect all of these kids to stick to their commitments? I’d say no.
Bud, Michael, or DA-2 (or all three)-
Can we please get a list of recruits who will be attending our Junior Weekend next weekend? It would also be of great interest to have you guess the likelihood of each recruit being offered (lock for an offer down to no chance), and the likelihood of the recruit commiting. Thanks.
I"m not one of them and I'm not answering your question because idk
but considering Bud’s conservative nature, good luck at getting him to play the guessing game on player’s interests at this point. Though it would be interesting to see a list of who is going. Michael has been MIA…. maybe he got caught up in the Mexican drug trade or something. DA-2 is your best bet at this point….
Odds are there is a Fowler within the group
which one will it be and hopefully FSU can get in their ear. Ever since Greg Reid and 2011 we haven’t gotten many steals, I think this will be the year that we get ours.
it was a gread day for Florida
3 caveats though:
a. commitments on/close to visits don’t always stick
2. these guys will certainly take visits elsewhere, which means their verbal is soft
d. other teams won’t stop recruiting these guys
Championship!
The Crocs will get their share and that's a given!
So that’s not really the point was trying to make about them hoarding all the tops DB’s in the state of Florida. It’s just that S is a need position for us and they all seem to be lined up trying to get into Gaytorland. It’s just a little frustrating, that’s all.
There's about six kids
that I believe FSU would take out of their class right now (McMillian,Taylor, Powell,Adams, Brantley, and Washington) but only two (McMillian and Washington) that FSU have had real contact with. With that being said, now is not the time to be reactionary. I’d only like to see about 1-2 commits heading into the spring evaluation period
by westcoastnolefan on Feb 19, 2012 11:49 AM EST reply actions
I agree
you gotta take the current player rankings with a grain of salt—none of these guys will finish with their player current ranking: they’ll either drop or increase, b/c rankings are relative, i.e., they are determined not only on what the player does but what other players do over the next 11 months.
FYI: one of the commitments, Quinton Powell is 190 and is a LB.
Championship!
So was Telvin
24/7 says 195, either way LB is a position of need for us this year and UF already has 4 LB commits.
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Oddly enough… I recall a lot of the “in the know” guys on the board mention how a bad season won’t necessarily affect any 2012 recruits, but 2013 and 2014 kids will notice. UF is certainly bucking that line of thinking right now, with arguable one of their worst back to back seasons in a long time and poised for another less than stellar season in 2012. Don’t think it can so easily be applied all the time lol.
But when you look at their depth chart they can sell playing time
and most of the time that’s all kids care about. When can they play and who am I playing against. Quickly and the SEC helps the gators in both departments
And their staff can just plain recruit.
We aren’t the only staff with great recruiters in FL anymore.
All the OOS doesn’t concern me – Miami will take a small class, and our needs don’t clash so heavily with UF that we’ll have issues, and we’ll do well in FL, GA, AL, and hopefully LA and a certain RB from TX who used to live in Jazx
Jeeeeeeeeeezuz Reuben Foster is a BAD ASS.
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I don't see how you could keep him off the defensive side of the ball
I can’t think of a better linebacker prospect off the top of my head
MLB. And I agree that I haven't seen better MLB film out a High School Sophomore......ever.
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by DRusso97 on Feb 19, 2012 5:09 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Wow that dude is a serious hitter....
Love the speed and great tackling form (driving through the ball carrier). How’s his competition? I ask this because its always unusual to see a kid physically dominate other player like he is in his film.
LB without any hesitation
Imagine Jeff Luc’s hitting power and size with Telvin’s instincts.
Do we have a shot at him? I see on rivals he is a Bama verbal.
by CrimiNole Defense on Feb 19, 2012 7:15 PM EST up reply actions
Doubt it.....but worth recruiting until the BITTER end.
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I'd hate to say it would be a waste of time because he is that good but...
I’d much rather see us not chase the pipe dream. I’m pretty sure we have seen crazier things happen though right?
Yes, and flipping a Bama recruit would only add to the notoriety of our staff
He’s less than even doubtful to flip, but hey, why not.
Reuben Foster & Robert Nkemdiche are 2 kids you chase until they fax an LOI somewhere else.....
….PERIOD.
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Did you just now watch his film?
It is scary to think that the video we are watching is of him as a sophomore. Imagine what his senior footage will look like. The only knock if there is such a thing is the lack of coverage available to analyze in his film. He has said himself that is the area he needs to work on. But I don’t think you will ever find a sophomore lb in the country who can stop ANY ball carrier in his tracks. I’ve pretty much come to the conclusion that he has a paralyzing/numbing agent on his jersey that stops players instantly on contact.
I think some prayers have been answered
FSU is offering OL a lot earlier than year’s past! We offered Eddie Goldman’s teammate from MD.
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