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10. Jimbo Fisher, Florida State
There’s just no way around it. This is a huge season for Fisher and the entire Seminoles program. Last year was supposed to be the statement season in Tallahassee, a return to glory following an unusually long bout with mediocrity. It never happened, as hopes for an ACC crown and a possible national championship contention were capsized by an unthinkable 2-3 start, and a home loss to Virginia in November.

Florida State closed the year with a lackluster 18-14 defeat of Notre Dame in the Champs Sports Bowl, hardly where this team expected to be after the holidays. The school has one more season with former five-star quarterback recruit EJ Manuel, and more than enough returning talent to fulfill expectations this time around. If the ‘Noles are once again unable to break through with their first BCS bowl game appearance since 2005, the bloom might be tomahawk chopped off Fisher’s rose.

** How much do you agree or disagree here? Is Foxsports a little jaded because they hyped the Noles a little too much in 2011? Are they ignoring the fact that FSU was starting freshmen across its entire offensive line by season end?

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Very negative caption in ragards to the Noles. Makes you wonder where it comes from...

Lackluster 18-14 win of ND? Would it have been lackluster if the Irish won?

Did they miss the part about starting all freshmen on the line the second half, and coming out scoring 18 unanswered with an absolutely smothering defensive performance?

'Gentlemen, it is better to have died a small boy than to fumble this football.' John Heisman

by Nattylite on Feb 7, 2012 1:34 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

"Last year was supposed to be the statement season in Tallahassee"
Yeah, if you had no idea what you were talking about and listened to the hype.

Boom.

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by Kelvin Hunt on Feb 7, 2012 2:03 PM EST up reply actions  

You guys have funny memories

That fact that I'm paranoid doesn't mean that there isn't a conspiracy against us

by stevegrizzle on Feb 7, 2012 3:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Rec'd.

Unfortunately, there were many on here that weren’t ready to wait one more season. We had posters break down the schedule, come up with 3 losses, and still expected an appearance in the NCG.

Most Miami fans have a bad case of SARS. Slap Ass Retarded Syndrome.

by Nole Resurrected on Feb 7, 2012 4:02 PM EST up reply actions  

So 2012 is what we've been waiting for, no excuses?

Agreed?

"Defensive lineman and its depth separates southern football from rest of the country".

by PeachTreeNole on Feb 8, 2012 9:34 AM EST up reply actions  

No Excuses!!!!!!

Now we have the depth to absorb a rash of injuries, not like last year, but a normal rash of injuries. A loss like the one to UVA will be unacceptable.

Most Miami fans have a bad case of SARS. Slap Ass Retarded Syndrome.

by Nole Resurrected on Feb 9, 2012 8:56 AM EST up reply actions  

This is the problem with CFB media now

they create a whirlwind of hype all on their own, then trash the team when they don’t live up to their standards for them.

by 38Noles on Feb 7, 2012 10:38 PM EST up reply actions  

That's true of all media...

Take a look at how many “polls” are out there…Half the stories you see are about the polls that the media took, then broke down their results. It’s lazy, shallow journalism.

by burkenole on Feb 8, 2012 6:59 AM EST up reply actions  

the belief that last years was supposed to be a statement season was based wholly on

the following research: seeing a tee-shirt that said “the time is now”

Championship!

by TLHWG on Feb 8, 2012 1:15 PM EST up reply actions  

FIRE FOX SPORTS

Jimbo made an interesting comment in an interview after signing day. It was something like, “Last two years, we were recruiting a team. Now, we get to recruit for a program.” It was a great statement. We are finally more than starters deep at critical positions. Last year, we did not have BCS depth at multiple positions.

by Meehl on Feb 7, 2012 2:02 PM EST reply actions  

Great breakdown!

It’s nice to be able to hold journalists accountable to their own words.

One great thing I believe Tomahawknation brings to the table is this – you might not always agree with what we say, but we will bring statistics to back it, and we won’t flip-flop on our stance. It might not be the popular sentiment, but we will own it none-the-less.

'Gentlemen, it is better to have died a small boy than to fumble this football.' John Heisman

by Nattylite on Feb 7, 2012 2:31 PM EST up reply actions  

well said

A wise polish man once said: If you don't look out for #1, you get a hand full of #2

by PalmAireNole on Feb 7, 2012 2:57 PM EST up reply actions  

Im willing to give Fisher another 3-5 years. He is still learning to be a coach and is a great recruiter. Would like to see the program continue to be molded in his image.

by nole your enemy on Feb 7, 2012 2:13 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

I fully agree. You can tell when a coach is in over his head, and Fisher just isn’t. He’s rebuilding a national brand against teams that made all the right moves the last decade or so, and he’s crafting a team of truly elite players. Jimbo gave me a reason to believe we could win every game we came to, simply because I can feel we’re moving in the right direction.

Jimbo 2012!

Forget about guns and forget ammunition
Cause I'm killing them all on my own little mission

by JustLikeYouOnlyPrettier on Feb 7, 2012 4:18 PM EST up reply actions  

In my book...

which has not yet been published, Jimbo can have the job until he loses interest and/or starts taking naps at halftime. We are lucky to have him.

Dogs bark in the night but the caravan moves on.

by fmnole on Feb 8, 2012 6:20 AM EST up reply actions  

wait

let me get this is straight. His first year was supposed to be a “statement season?”

This guy has no clue

>>>─────;;─►

by NorFla_Nole on Feb 7, 2012 2:30 PM EST reply actions  

No, this list is for 2012

“Last year” would’ve been the 2011 season.

by Invictus13 on Feb 7, 2012 4:02 PM EST up reply actions  

To be fair, he doesn't actually say that Fisher is on the hot seat.

He’s just saying that these coaches need to get off to a “hot start,” whatever that means.

He goes on to say:

“Now, that’s not to suggest that all are facing must-win situations. Jimbo Fisher and Will Muschamp, for instance, are safe at Florida State and Florida, respectively, even if they don’t compete for a league title. However, that doesn’t quell the urgency to exceed last season’s uninspired and disappointing efforts on the field.”

by nolesblogger on Feb 7, 2012 2:42 PM EST reply actions  

Granted

I took it as being more implied than anything.

'Gentlemen, it is better to have died a small boy than to fumble this football.' John Heisman

by Nattylite on Feb 7, 2012 2:45 PM EST up reply actions  

You, sir,

and your “context.”

Dogs bark in the night but the caravan moves on.

by fmnole on Feb 8, 2012 6:21 AM EST up reply actions  

After just 23 wins the previous 3!

I think if half our team doesn’t get KO’d by Week 3 and FSU still fails to produce, then we can start warming Jimbo’s seat. But I’d give him at least 2-3 years before I’d consider him on the HOT seat.

"Nothing like a tight one." -Heather Cox

by FTSNole on Feb 8, 2012 2:39 PM EST up reply actions  

2-3 years

on top of the 2 he’s already coached.

"Nothing like a tight one." -Heather Cox

by FTSNole on Feb 8, 2012 2:40 PM EST up reply actions  

Agree with some and Disagree with most

-Agreed that this is a big season coming up, and we need to live up to expactations

-Disagree that Jimbo is on the “hot seat”

-Disagree with lackluster v ND

We have done so well recruiting that if we have terrible luck again and somehow manage to lose 4 we will still be strong in 13 and 14. I personally think it is more likely we lose only one than lose 4.

That fact that I'm paranoid doesn't mean that there isn't a conspiracy against us

by stevegrizzle on Feb 7, 2012 2:55 PM EST reply actions  

This is assuming we schedule a bottom 30ish FBS team

That fact that I'm paranoid doesn't mean that there isn't a conspiracy against us

by stevegrizzle on Feb 7, 2012 2:57 PM EST up reply actions  

if you're a fan of great offenses, it was lackluster.

Of course, the same could be said about the NC game in that regard. But it’s the trophy that counts.

"Defensive lineman and its depth separates southern football from rest of the country".

by PeachTreeNole on Feb 8, 2012 9:39 AM EST up reply actions  

offenses don't play in a vacuum

That fact that I'm paranoid doesn't mean that there isn't a conspiracy against us

by stevegrizzle on Feb 9, 2012 2:28 AM EST up reply actions  

I'll take a mediocre offense paired with an elite defense anyday.

It’s the “elite” offenses with mediocre defense that get’s exposed.

Most Miami fans have a bad case of SARS. Slap Ass Retarded Syndrome.

by Nole Resurrected on Feb 9, 2012 8:59 AM EST up reply actions  

I'm greedy.

We used to have both.

"Defensive lineman and its depth separates southern football from rest of the country".

by PeachTreeNole on Feb 9, 2012 9:12 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

I’ll take a mediocre offense paired with an elite defense anyday.

Savor the 2011 memories. That’s exactly what we had.

by Dr.KennethNoisewater on Feb 9, 2012 9:32 AM EST up reply actions  

I'd rather just smash evryone on both sides of the ball, but

if I had to choose, I’ll take defense anyday.

Most Miami fans have a bad case of SARS. Slap Ass Retarded Syndrome.

by Nole Resurrected on Feb 9, 2012 10:24 AM EST up reply actions  

Now, I would say given reasonable team health,

9-4 with NEXT year’s roster might put some heat on Jimbo. And rightfully so.

by Dr.KennethNoisewater on Feb 7, 2012 2:55 PM EST reply actions  

certainly agree as well. last year was a fluke for injury luck and we should have better depth as insurance going into next year.

by SimaNole on Feb 7, 2012 7:47 PM EST up reply actions  

Calling Dr. Kenneth,

9-4 without context is neither good nor bad…Not enough data. 9-4 this year would have sucked except for what we know happened to the Ol and EJ. Now, if we had gone 13-0, there would simply have been no -excuse- reason for that.

Dogs bark in the night but the caravan moves on.

by fmnole on Feb 8, 2012 6:25 AM EST up reply actions  

I rec’d not only because I agree, but because lol at UM away

by najabaas on Feb 9, 2012 8:23 AM EST up reply actions  

it would take a train wreck

but our train wrecked this year…

Dogs bark in the night but the caravan moves on.

by fmnole on Feb 9, 2012 8:39 AM EST up reply actions  

Bottom line

With the way he is recruiting there is now way in hell he is on any kind of hot seat.

#58 should be retired in honor of the most destructive force to ever wear garnet and gold

by Wire2Wire99Grad on Feb 7, 2012 6:03 PM EST reply actions  

it’s the easy answer for a national writer …if you’d like to call her a writer.

by SimaNole on Feb 7, 2012 7:46 PM EST up reply actions  

I can name three other coaches in the ACC that have a better claim to being on the hot seat long before Jimbo earns that dubious honor. Actually, make it four.

HD needs something to write about, so she creates controversy where there is none. It’s part of the game.

Forget about guns and forget ammunition
Cause I'm killing them all on my own little mission

by JustLikeYouOnlyPrettier on Feb 7, 2012 8:13 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, besides, id take her out for a nice seafood dinner.

Control the Sunshine State & sooner or later you'll control the country.

by Scalpemall on Feb 7, 2012 11:22 PM EST up reply actions  

You're right.

She would be one ugly man.

Dogs bark in the night but the caravan moves on.

by fmnole on Feb 8, 2012 6:26 AM EST up reply actions  

Paging...

Charlie Weiss

The next time we play UF 1,092 days will have passed since they have been able to hold our jock strap.

by kmp9494 on Feb 8, 2012 12:51 PM EST up reply actions  

Tom Luginbill

gets bashed here too for his shiny fake face.

"Nothing like a tight one." -Heather Cox

by FTSNole on Feb 8, 2012 2:42 PM EST up reply actions  

Rec

For making me remember all the Chuck Amato brassiere top jokes!

by JNole on Feb 9, 2012 7:33 PM EST up reply actions  

If I were a chick, maybe?
Would we make these kinds of disparaging remarks about her appearance if she were a man?

Just kidding, I agree whole heartedly.

Most Miami fans have a bad case of SARS. Slap Ass Retarded Syndrome.

by Nole Resurrected on Feb 9, 2012 9:01 AM EST up reply actions  

She’s not completely unfortunate, but she also doesn’t do anything to make herself look more professional. Being plain is fine, but if you’re past the age of 22 and haven’t realized that you can be good at your job, be beautiful, AND be taken seriously, then you have a lot of growing up to do.

Forget about guns and forget ammunition
Cause I'm killing them all on my own little mission

by JustLikeYouOnlyPrettier on Feb 9, 2012 4:37 PM EST up reply actions  

Well...

That sounds like something someone who goes by the handle Justlikeyouonlyprettier would say.

by JNole on Feb 9, 2012 7:35 PM EST up reply actions  

Not sure how to classify this one

Does it fall under the standard “we need some material that requires little to no thought” category, or is it the more nuanced ESPN-type “invent the narrative and then make reality conform to us” model?

by BobLoblaw113 on Feb 7, 2012 9:23 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

To be honest

If we don’t at least make the ACC championship game the posters here will crucify CJF.
If we don’t win said game he’ll be severley critisized.
If we win the ACC championship and don’t win the BCS bowl he’ll be questioned.
Not much room for error.
CJF and the staff he assembled have created a monster through simply awsome recruiting that might devour them.
There’s an irony there.

by law74 on Feb 7, 2012 9:29 PM EST reply actions  

Even in the remote case that

12 starters break their legs?

Dogs bark in the night but the caravan moves on.

by fmnole on Feb 8, 2012 6:27 AM EST up reply actions  

Seriously?

Tomahawk Nation didn't cause my divorce. It was merely a contributing factor.

by TRMNole on Feb 8, 2012 9:36 AM EST up reply actions  

Honestly, DKN...

I get the feeling some people around here DON’T like that.

Tomahawk Nation didn't cause my divorce. It was merely a contributing factor.

by TRMNole on Feb 8, 2012 9:39 AM EST up reply actions  

“CJF and the staff he assembled have created a monster through simply awsome recruiting that might devour them.”

Yeah, his name is Timmy Jernigan.

by FSU Pope on Feb 7, 2012 11:16 PM EST up reply actions  

With all due respect

The irony is that CJF and staff have stockpiled great recruits and that has created great expectations. It was the staff that pulled recruits from Alabama under the nose of UA and Auburn. We have taken recruits from UM and UF and other big time programs.
Frankenstien’s monster may end up killing the good Doc.
That is true irony.

by law74 on Feb 7, 2012 9:48 PM EST reply actions  

Or he could just take those recruits and win games like he's paid to do.

And then we wouldn’t need a nuclear physics degree to measure how good he is.

Tomahawk Nation didn't cause my divorce. It was merely a contributing factor.

by TRMNole on Feb 8, 2012 9:47 AM EST up reply actions  

I used to live in Texas.

That state has a lot of great people but is also well-stocked with self-proclaimed “winners” who apply that standard to everything but their own lives. Sometimes, TN makes me homesick.

Dogs bark in the night but the caravan moves on.

by fmnole on Feb 9, 2012 8:47 AM EST up reply actions  

I love this place.

UM = Dumpster fire 95% of the time.

When we take a recruit from UM, they become a “Big Time Program”.

Most Miami fans have a bad case of SARS. Slap Ass Retarded Syndrome.

by Nole Resurrected on Feb 9, 2012 9:05 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

It's a recent trend.

I don’t mind playing the bad cop to point it out. Eventually a bigger a-hole comes along and makes me look good again. It’s a little more complicated than I’d like, but it’s functional.

Tomahawk Nation didn't cause my divorce. It was merely a contributing factor.

by TRMNole on Feb 9, 2012 11:05 AM EST up reply actions  

Miami will always be able to land a few "big time" recruits.

Problem now is, can they land enough. I think as long as Golden is there, we’ll never be able to overlook UM.

Most Miami fans have a bad case of SARS. Slap Ass Retarded Syndrome.

by Nole Resurrected on Feb 10, 2012 1:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Never, ever overlook Miami.

Crush them on the field, see them driven before you, and the lamentation of their women…

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by DRusso97 on Feb 10, 2012 2:26 PM EST up reply actions  

Have you seen their women?

Most Miami fans have a bad case of SARS. Slap Ass Retarded Syndrome.

by Nole Resurrected on Feb 10, 2012 3:51 PM EST up reply actions  

Quite a few of them......

>: )

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by DRusso97 on Feb 10, 2012 5:14 PM EST up reply actions  

OR..that monster might end up holding teams to 8-9 points a game,just sayin.

Control the Sunshine State & sooner or later you'll control the country.

by Scalpemall on Feb 7, 2012 11:11 PM EST reply actions  

reply fail to law74

Control the Sunshine State & sooner or later you'll control the country.

by Scalpemall on Feb 7, 2012 11:12 PM EST up reply actions  

Shoulda not hired Jimbo in the first place...or Stoops.

And got Coach Ed “Straight Arrow” Genero As the Head Coach/Offense and Coach Wally Riggendorf for Defense from Necessary Roughness. Jarmon Fortson makes a Cameo as “Featherstone”(Don’t Throw It To STONEHANDS!!)

"Ah, F*ck it"-Lee Corso

by Chief03 on Feb 8, 2012 8:28 AM EST reply actions  

look guys, we just need to win the acc and then see what happens after that

if we win the acc, but lose to say OU in the bowl, it happens. if we get to the acc champ and lose to X team, well, that’s already been done before so therefore not good enough. bottom line, we don’t have to win the MNC next year or even our BCS game (although would be nice) to be back on track with a more than likely 11 win successful season. so 10 reg season wins plus the acc champ is essentially a must this year IMO.

by leftcoastnole on Feb 8, 2012 3:32 PM EST reply actions  

If we lose to OU again...

I will know how UGA fans feel when they play and lose UF.

FSU, home of the Bandit! Enough said!

by cmk07c on Feb 9, 2012 10:08 AM EST up reply actions  

Been a Jimbo supporter

since day 1. but if we don’t at least make it to Charlotte this season then that will no longer be the case (as long as we remain healthy).

by gasou_nole on Feb 8, 2012 4:08 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

That's all some of us are saying.

Problem is folks here are taking The Unluckiest Year In The History of NCAA Division I-A Football™ as Jimbo’s new baseline. So he goes 10-4 next year and it’s “Look at the improvement he made through all the adversity!” Well, West Virginia is off the schedule and so we’re out of excuses. It’s Charlotte or Bust, and if Bowden couldn’t get away with “50% of teams lost today,” I’ll damn sure expect a win against an overmatched opponent.

And there’s absolutely nothing wrong with that.

Tomahawk Nation didn't cause my divorce. It was merely a contributing factor.

by TRMNole on Feb 8, 2012 4:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Why not fire the offensive staff

after the first 3 and out and get rid of Stoops and his guys after the opponents first touchdown? That would send a message that we’re serious. Just because a guy wins a game doesn’t mean he’s good; win by 40 points plus every game this season or clean house.

Process is for losers.

Dogs bark in the night but the caravan moves on.

by fmnole on Feb 9, 2012 8:51 AM EST up reply actions  

The problem with your idea is that if we have a key injury in the Clemson game, we can possibly go 7-1 in conference, 11-1 regular season, and not go to Charlotte.

You need to remember this isn’t the 90’s, and we aren’t the only Atlantic team who’s dedicating resources to being a successful program.

Clemson, despite Dabo, will be a real factor every year.

We could very easily have poor timing on key injuries again, and go 11-1 and miss the ACCCG. Won’t happen, but it’s that simple.

by jmnpb996 on Feb 9, 2012 9:52 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Look at what we have moving up the ranks to take over in 2013.

We won’t be as good, but we should still be better than the rest of the ACC.

Most Miami fans have a bad case of SARS. Slap Ass Retarded Syndrome.

by Nole Resurrected on Feb 9, 2012 10:38 AM EST up reply actions  

Not as talented as us.

Most Miami fans have a bad case of SARS. Slap Ass Retarded Syndrome.

by Nole Resurrected on Feb 9, 2012 3:03 PM EST up reply actions  

Here's the way I look at it. (since we're going down the too far out to predict discussion path)

By the time we kickoff in Sept ’13, FSU should be great (not just good, great) at OL, RB, WR, and really good at TE. QB is the only question on offense, but I like our chances with Coker and a GREAT supporting cast.

Defense will naturally take a step back from likely tops in the country. Replacing the secondary and DL will hurt, but we’ll have 4 consecutive top-5 recruiting classes, many of whom will be quite experienced, to fill the voids. Nobody in the ACC will come that close to the 4-year talent haul FSU brought in. Nobody.

If I had to bet right now (which would be dumb this far out), I’d put money on FSU winning the division.

by Dr.KennethNoisewater on Feb 9, 2012 3:33 PM EST up reply actions  

This ^ is what I'm talking about.

We’re building a program, not a team.

Most Miami fans have a bad case of SARS. Slap Ass Retarded Syndrome.

by Nole Resurrected on Feb 9, 2012 4:51 PM EST up reply actions  

I completely agree with both of you. We should have a pounding running game, and plenty of playmakers at every skill position. QB is the big question on offense, but will be fine. The defensive step back is what worries me, particularly in coverage.

The DL will probably be the best off of any single defensive unit.

Replacing Joyner, Jones, Rhodes, Reid is what bothers me. We have plenty of talent coming up, but we’ll have fresh faces at starting positions at CB, FS, OLB, MLB. Replacing the pass coverage abilities of VW won’t be super difficult, and I really like Telvin, but we’re going to have a LOT of fresh blood in pass coverage in 2013.

Clemson is one team who will have all their playmakers, a 5th year senior QB, by then should have a decent OL, and a pass-happy OC who does an excellent job of exploiting mismatches. Couple that with our relatively inexperienced group of kids in coverage, and an early season matchup with CU in 2013 will be easily our most difficult game of the year.

I’m not writing 2013 off by any means, but that’s one matchup that just looks tough on paper, 18+ months out.

Of course, like you said, building of this program will yield consistent results, and we don’t know who of the young talent on defense will step up in 2012. Our program will be consistent and excellent, but Clemson’s 2013 team is where their stars align.

by jmnpb996 on Feb 10, 2012 9:40 AM EST up reply actions  

Joyner & Jones are Juniors in 2013.

#Alliteration

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by DRusso97 on Feb 10, 2012 9:44 AM EST up reply actions  

I think they're juniors for 2012.

Seems they both played too much in 2010 to receive redshirts.

by fsuclipper on Feb 10, 2012 10:30 AM EST up reply actions  

Dammit....

#MoreCoffee

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by DRusso97 on Feb 10, 2012 2:27 PM EST up reply actions  

Not DL.....DE.

2013 DE’s will be long on talent (MEJ/Casher), short on experience.
2013 interior DL (Jernigan/Erving/Goldman/NLS) > 2012 interior DL (Dawkins/Jernigan/McCloud/J-Mac)

Jernigan & CJ7 will be playing for their NFL $$$

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by DRusso97 on Feb 10, 2012 9:42 AM EST up reply actions  

I was talking DE's and Dawkins. Those are VERY significant losses.

The rest of my comment, about who’s replacing them, is pretty much exactly what you’re talking about. So, not sure what you don’t agree with.

by Dr.KennethNoisewater on Feb 10, 2012 10:22 AM EST up reply actions  

DE's, yes. Dawkins, no. 2013 Jernigan > 2012 Dawkins

I was actually agreeing with you, except I don’t expect the DL (as a whole) to take a very big step back because the interior I expect to be even better.

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by DRusso97 on Feb 10, 2012 2:29 PM EST up reply actions  

Wait, you thinking Jernigan moves to DT?

And I think Dawkins is the best interior guy on the team right now. Always consider losing your best guy a big loss. Even if replacements are “expected” to be better. JMO.

Other aspect is the hit depth will take. Sure, the guys behind the current ones might be better, but will our 2/3-deep be as good as 2012? I find that very hard to believe.

by Dr.KennethNoisewater on Feb 10, 2012 2:39 PM EST up reply actions  

That's a lesson that many here learned the hard way.
Always consider losing your best guy a big loss. Even if replacements are "expected" to be better. JMO.

EJ > Ponder

Most Miami fans have a bad case of SARS. Slap Ass Retarded Syndrome.

by Nole Resurrected on Feb 10, 2012 3:52 PM EST up reply actions  

no

"However, I say, let UM burn." -onebarrelrum

by Miaminole on Feb 10, 2012 7:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Yes, I expect Jernigan to move to 3-tech with Cam/NLS/Goldman playing 1-tech.

He is an explosive up-field penetrator with power and short area quickness.

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by DRusso97 on Feb 10, 2012 5:16 PM EST up reply actions  

BCS game is what I want for next year. If we have 1 conference loss to Clemson due to something weird happening (ridiculous calls/injury/something not the coaches fault) and don’t make the ACCCG, but still go to a BCS game (Stanford) I still consider 2012 to be a success.

by najabaas on Feb 9, 2012 8:27 AM EST reply actions  

I should add that no BCS bowl=failure

by najabaas on Feb 9, 2012 8:30 AM EST up reply actions  

Yeah I think we would be the only ACC to ever get an at-large big now.

But if we’re 10-2 I couldn’t see too many other teams getting picked ahead of us for an at-large.

by Blake Davis on Feb 9, 2012 3:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Exactly. FSU is a name like Michigan that would be picked over a better team, just because they know they sell tickets. If Michigan can sneak in this year, I think even if we’re 10-2 we’d get picked for a BCS bowl (@Blake Davis as well)

by najabaas on Feb 10, 2012 7:34 AM EST up reply actions  


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