FSU at Boston College preview and game thread
by Michael Rogner on Feb 8, 2012 4:44 PM EST
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PrintFor the first time since 1998 the Seminoles are ranked in the AP top-15. How are they rewarded? By playing an untelevised game. That's right, your option for watching the Noles going for their 8th straight conference win is either through your computer or your X-box, and that's if you happen to get ESPN3. The Noles will also be competing with Georgetown/Syracuse and Kansas/Baylor for viewers, so it's safe to say that not many people will see what happens tonight in Chestnut Hill.
Boston College (7-16, 2-7) is currently at the bottom of the ACC. They've lost to Holy Cross, Penn State, Boston University, Providence, Rhode Island, Georgia Tech and Wake Forest. Entering conference play their signature win was against Stony Brook. Somehow they managed to beat Clemson and Virginia Tech in back-to-back home games, but have since lost six straight. Their level of suck is really no surprise, as BC has 10 new players on their roster, and their only returning players weren't ACC quality starters.
Their problems are deepest on the offensive end. Only two BCS conference programs have worse offenses, and both of those schools (Utah and USC) are in the horrible Pac-12. BC is averaging 0.85 points per possession in conference play, which is the worst since advanced stats became available. Not only have they failed to score a point per possession in any conference game, they've only scored more than 0.90 once. For reference, FSU scored 0.90 in the Princeton game. Their leading scorer, Oregon transfer Matt Humphrey, averages 10.1 points per game. They're 224th shooting 2s, 222nd shooting 3s, 300th in turnovers and 341st in offensive rebounding. FSU should shut this team down.
Defensively, the Eagles are a little better. They're 169th in defense, and do this by not sending players to the line (29th), and limiting - at least in ACC play - offensive boards (4th in conference-only games). Still, 169th is only good in comparison to their offense. Only Wake Forest plays worse defense in the ACC.
So how can BC possibly win this game? Two years ago when Notre Dame star Luke Harongody went down with a knee injury, the Irish were able to overcome this by moving to their "burn" offense, which was essentially designed to run as much clock as possible on every possession. By the time they reached the Big East Tournament it had become comical, and they had back-to-back 50 possession games (FSU averages over 68 a game). What does this have to do with BC? Well, after losses to NCST (73 possession game) and Wake Forest (71 possession game), BC head coach Steve Donahue implemented his own version of "burn." Since then they've played four games. The possessions in those games: 61, 62, 57, 57. It's the classic underdog strategy. Limit possessions and hope that the increased influence of luck works in your favor. Maybe it's best that this game isn't being televised.
The game tips at 7pm. Vegas has the Noles -12.5, and Ken Pomeroy has FSU -16.
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This will be a test for Ham
Road ACC games are never easy and it will be easy for out players to look past tonight’s game.
Snaer's pregame comments seemed to indicate focus.
Let’s hope that was for real.
by warrick9 on Feb 8, 2012 4:58 PM EST via mobile reply actions
I really get the sense that Loucks is solid with the mental game, too.
And I feel like he really wants this. I hope I’m right.
After years of watching our team
I kind of feel like I’m getting as good a sense of our quality by watching our games against scrubs (Wake, GT) as I do by our games against ranked teams.
I really liked the way we pulled away from Wake and GT after not playing great.
This game will probably seem closer than it actually is
If we have 9-10 less possessions than usual, that could be around 6-8 points less of a differential. But I think that their strategy of holding onto the ball longer will increase their turnovers and give us a few more fastbreaks than normal (per possession).
Hey, MRogner
What happened to the 2012 basketball discussion thread? I kind of like it.
'Scuse me while I whip this out..."
After a while they drop off. I'll put up #2 before the Miami game
by Michael Rogner on Feb 8, 2012 5:03 PM EST up reply actions
I'm with GoNolz! I really liked that discussion thread and Games of Interest.
But your game previews are like crack!
too bad. no one probably got to
take advantage of my wildly succesful handicapping selection, with 9-point dog Maryland winning outright.
No matter, I expect the same success tonight:
UNC (-6) vs. Duke
Wake Forest (+14) vs. UVa.
'Scuse me while I whip this out..."
by GoNolzOhio on Feb 8, 2012 5:20 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I want to see Dook take down Carolina.
And FSU alone at the top of the ACC standings.
Wow didnt think about that...
That would be nice to say. As much as it hurts…go Dook!!
ARGH!
Why did you have to mention the Princeton game, I was >< close to forgetting it! :)
If our men keep taking care of business
The Princeton game will be a amusing sidenote to the season.
Thank goodness I missed that game.
I think I was out on the boat. 10 points in the first half, or something like that? That’s just painful to contemplate.
I'm still nervous
Let’s take care of business tonight. Oh and go Duke? I guess… it hurts saying that.
Does it make any sense to actually NOT root for Duke?
I mean, if UNC wins, sure we’re still tied with them and they may not lose another game. But, do you really expect to beat Duke twice in a season? I don’t and if you do, I want some of what you’re smoking (not that we can’t but there is no way in hell you should expect us to). That way, even if Duke beats us, there is no tiebreaker and if we take care of business besides Duke, we can’t finish worse than them (no worse that t-2).
"But they understand expectations don’t win games. And just because you’re picked to win, they don’t give you the trophy when the season starts. And we tell our kids that we have to form great habits and have great work ethic and form our identity as a team. We just have to reinforce that everyday because as we tell them, the pressure of expectations is only there if we aren’t prepared for them. If we prepared for them and we’re prepared mentally and physically, the pressure of the expectation won’t bother us." - Jimbo Fisher
Duke is down this year. They're defense is terrible and they're bound to lose more games against athletic teams
UNC has lost three games all year, and all to teams currently ranked. I think they are far less likely to lose another game compared to Duke. We want Duke to steal one of these games because it gives us a cushion to crap the bed against a lesser team.
yep, I agree with your assessment on Duke. Thats why I like UNC -6.
'Scuse me while I whip this out..."
Is anyone seeing this game listed on ESPN3?
I’m not seeing it in the list of tonight’s games…
Never mind
For some reason when I went to ESPN3 it defaulted to next Wednesday. Took me a minute to figure out…
Wonder what this will look like. Some of these non-TV games look crazy bad on ESPN3.
Believe it or not, I can watch Monmouth vs Farley Dickenson in HD.
But not us. And I live in West Palm!
Hey, Lou,
Not to sound like a total ignoramus, but I can’t get it on ESPN3. What did you do to make it show up?
Never mind. Found it.
I’m very glad I bought a 25’ monitor recently!
It might be under "live now"
I just kept switching from “live now” to “upcoming” and switching dates and eventually got it to show up under “live now”
Showing OSU/Wisconsin right now.
Wisconsin is giving them a run for their money.
Can anyone tell me how to access it on Xbox?
My daughter has one but I/ we have rarely used it?
by FullTimeNole on Feb 8, 2012 5:56 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Thank you, I'll give it a shot.
by FullTimeNole on Feb 8, 2012 6:07 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
It has to be connected to the internet.
Then you need a GOLD account for Xbox live. Its $10 a month or so.
Formerly known as Randall W. Spetman.
by CornNole on Feb 8, 2012 6:07 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I'm going through the motions now, they haven't hit me up for the $ just yet
by FullTimeNole on Feb 8, 2012 6:19 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Trick
Create a new account, and when they ask you if you want Xbox Live gold, say now. They’ll give you a month or two for free anyway.
Thanks for the tip!
This process is taking forever…… Maybe time to try the laptop
by FullTimeNole on Feb 8, 2012 6:56 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
on my way to that crap hole now
I’ll give them hell boys!
by BostonNole on Feb 8, 2012 6:05 PM EST via iPhone app reply actions
nah. lobstah rolls all around
by BostonNole on Feb 8, 2012 6:28 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
Ahhhh FUUuu
Should have read more closely how bad BC really is. There goes my teaser.
by TCHOP561 on Feb 8, 2012 6:16 PM EST via mobile reply actions
NOCAL - RPI QUESTION
I was checking the RPI rankings and it states that we have three wins versus the top 50. I am CERTAIN that when we beat VaTech they were in top 50 at the time. Are we not getting that fourth victory versus the top 50 because they (VTech) are no longer ranked in the top 50?
"It's great to beat a Florida Gator...It's great to beat a Florida Gator..."
by garnet and golden in jax on Feb 8, 2012 6:46 PM EST reply actions
That is why RPI is such a bogus tool to determine Tourny bids.
"Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man." The Dude
by pasadenanole22 on Feb 8, 2012 7:10 PM EST up reply actions
Las Vegas is far more accurate than the RPI system, FWIW.
"Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man." The Dude
by pasadenanole22 on Feb 8, 2012 7:20 PM EST up reply actions
Absolutley. Ken Pomeroy is great.
"Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man." The Dude
by pasadenanole22 on Feb 8, 2012 7:23 PM EST up reply actions
elbows high is now a foul, people
and the refs want it to be flagrant. FANTASTIC start, refs.
"I guess they have a reputation of being more of a tricky team and not being tough. You hit ‘em in the mouth, and they don’t like it. Other teams that have beat them just hit them in the mouth, so that’s what we started out with.’’ - Nick Moody
oh, and that dude stepped out twice on the baseline drive
"I guess they have a reputation of being more of a tricky team and not being tough. You hit ‘em in the mouth, and they don’t like it. Other teams that have beat them just hit them in the mouth, so that’s what we started out with.’’ - Nick Moody
Just arriving late. Thanks for the recap Michael.
Judging from your breakdown, does this look like a 52-42 type of game?
"Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man." The Dude
cant "slide under"?
you mean establish position before he gets there, just from the side instead of the front? suspicious…
"I guess they have a reputation of being more of a tricky team and not being tough. You hit ‘em in the mouth, and they don’t like it. Other teams that have beat them just hit them in the mouth, so that’s what we started out with.’’ - Nick Moody
i want to see more of that from Gibson
James is usually willing to fight through fouls to get the shot off, but Gibson loves to pull up for the short jumper instead (which means you better make the shot, since you are not getting 2 from the line)
"I guess they have a reputation of being more of a tricky team and not being tough. You hit ‘em in the mouth, and they don’t like it. Other teams that have beat them just hit them in the mouth, so that’s what we started out with.’’ - Nick Moody
i know
but it would be nice to see the players convince him of the benefits of taking a little push for the sake of the team, and his stats. remember, what does a miss with a foul look like on the stat sheet?
"I guess they have a reputation of being more of a tricky team and not being tough. You hit ‘em in the mouth, and they don’t like it. Other teams that have beat them just hit them in the mouth, so that’s what we started out with.’’ - Nick Moody
here comes the air force reference, plus possibly the gold-plated AK-47 photo.
'Scuse me while I whip this out..."
For those of you who have the Sunshine network
UVA / Wake tips in 15 minutes
"It's great to beat a Florida Gator...It's great to beat a Florida Gator..."
by garnet and golden in jax on Feb 8, 2012 7:16 PM EST reply actions
There's no way they're going to be able to compete with inside
We go to a commercial – under 12
FSU 16
BC 10
FSU just got fouled in the low post (I think James)
that was a pretty shot from Miller
lets hope it continues
"I guess they have a reputation of being more of a tricky team and not being tough. You hit ‘em in the mouth, and they don’t like it. Other teams that have beat them just hit them in the mouth, so that’s what we started out with.’’ - Nick Moody
Miller needs to learn when he is off
and take some high % shots to get back in rhythm. he likes to take a lot of 3s and tough shots, even in the midst of a slump. Snaer struggled with trying too hard to get a bucket, and Miller seems not to try hard enough to find one – if he can see the bucket, he often takes it.
if Snaer can continue to play within himself, and Miller can be smarter with his shot choices, our guards can be great. Loucks and Dulkys are looking pretty good already. Peterson is better than Pierre to give minutes at the point.
"I guess they have a reputation of being more of a tricky team and not being tough. You hit ‘em in the mouth, and they don’t like it. Other teams that have beat them just hit them in the mouth, so that’s what we started out with.’’ - Nick Moody
yes
he was the only option left on the team after last season. we replaced him (literally) with Peterson.
"I guess they have a reputation of being more of a tricky team and not being tough. You hit ‘em in the mouth, and they don’t like it. Other teams that have beat them just hit them in the mouth, so that’s what we started out with.’’ - Nick Moody
White is being super aggressive
He is dominant at the 4 against smaller teams
Similar color scheme?
Surely we don’t like each other…
Catholics vs. convicts, Vol II?
"I guess they have a reputation of being more of a tricky team and not being tough. You hit ‘em in the mouth, and they don’t like it. Other teams that have beat them just hit them in the mouth, so that’s what we started out with.’’ - Nick Moody
not to say we are criminals, but UF would have you believe we are...
"I guess they have a reputation of being more of a tricky team and not being tough. You hit ‘em in the mouth, and they don’t like it. Other teams that have beat them just hit them in the mouth, so that’s what we started out with.’’ - Nick Moody
BC on a nice little run
and James goes tough under the basket to force the foul. makes both to make it worthwhile.
"I guess they have a reputation of being more of a tricky team and not being tough. You hit ‘em in the mouth, and they don’t like it. Other teams that have beat them just hit them in the mouth, so that’s what we started out with.’’ - Nick Moody
WOW...BC is hitting everything behind the 3 point arc
"I have been crucified with Christ and I no longer live, but Christ lives in me. The life I live in the body, I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave himself for me." Galatians 2:20
thats ok, it will not last
the refs are certainly doing everything they can to call everything absurd against us, including a foul inside the arc
"I guess they have a reputation of being more of a tricky team and not being tough. You hit ‘em in the mouth, and they don’t like it. Other teams that have beat them just hit them in the mouth, so that’s what we started out with.’’ - Nick Moody
booo this man
that was a clean block
"I guess they have a reputation of being more of a tricky team and not being tough. You hit ‘em in the mouth, and they don’t like it. Other teams that have beat them just hit them in the mouth, so that’s what we started out with.’’ - Nick Moody
ok, dinner time
screw these refs, they need to read the rulebook.
dont worry about the ridiculous streak of 3s, that cannot last.
and GO NOLES.
"I guess they have a reputation of being more of a tricky team and not being tough. You hit ‘em in the mouth, and they don’t like it. Other teams that have beat them just hit them in the mouth, so that’s what we started out with.’’ - Nick Moody
OUCH
"I have been crucified with Christ and I no longer live, but Christ lives in me. The life I live in the body, I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave himself for me." Galatians 2:20
No way they can stay this hot.
Roses are red, Violets are blue, If it wears orange, Kill it.
I would certainly get in their face and make them try and go inside
"I have been crucified with Christ and I no longer live, but Christ lives in me. The life I live in the body, I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave himself for me." Galatians 2:20
We were up 23-11 when I turned it on.
Maybe I should go do something else.
by warrick9 on Feb 8, 2012 7:42 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Same for me though
So the bad mojo could be my fault.
Just made my wife put her game cap on.
She complained, but could tell that this was serious!
by SailorNole on Feb 8, 2012 7:57 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
mine is now on as well
but it doesnt really matter, we always play well in the second half, unless the game has already been salted away.
"I guess they have a reputation of being more of a tricky team and not being tough. You hit ‘em in the mouth, and they don’t like it. Other teams that have beat them just hit them in the mouth, so that’s what we started out with.’’ - Nick Moody
We are not playing the boards very well....nobody is fighting for the ball
"I have been crucified with Christ and I no longer live, but Christ lives in me. The life I live in the body, I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave himself for me." Galatians 2:20
Ok, this looks like a friggin' game of NBA Jam.
If all sports fandom is a form of emotional gambling, football is poker and hockey is Russian roulette.
mobile rec for nba jam reference
by nolesdude on Feb 8, 2012 7:46 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
No single player on BC's roster is averaging more than 10 points a game......
……and then this ish.
GO NOLES!
FEAR THE SPEAR!
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The scariest part is
We’re playing pretty tight defense, they’re just nailing them. There’s no way to defend that…
by EngineerNole on Feb 8, 2012 7:46 PM EST via iPhone app reply actions
So we should all head out for a bit and get back just in time
for a 18-2 run on all 3’s for FSU?
If all sports fandom is a form of emotional gambling, football is poker and hockey is Russian roulette.
tiny knife fight
you should see the other guy
"I guess they have a reputation of being more of a tricky team and not being tough. You hit ‘em in the mouth, and they don’t like it. Other teams that have beat them just hit them in the mouth, so that’s what we started out with.’’ - Nick Moody
If UNC loses...
….we’ll be all alone in first. Unless we lose. Then we’ll still be in first. SO….um…ice cream anyone?
GO NOLES!
FEAR THE SPEAR!
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yep, even the announcers saw it
"I guess they have a reputation of being more of a tricky team and not being tough. You hit ‘em in the mouth, and they don’t like it. Other teams that have beat them just hit them in the mouth, so that’s what we started out with.’’ - Nick Moody
4.5 seconds. we had that with Duke at the end of the game and scored
'Scuse me while I whip this out..."
....yeah but,
this is Boston College. Not an easy basket by any means.
GO NOLES!
FEAR THE SPEAR!
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no way the Eagles duplicate that first half this year, let alone next half.
'Scuse me while I whip this out..."
well
fair to say that no way Dulkys sinks 32 points in a game again too though… upsets are upsets
by StM on Feb 8, 2012 7:55 PM EST up reply actions
i see the refs are doing their best to push this upset
weak foul on Miller, no call on the OBVIOUS travel by BC, and the no-call on the last second shot by Snaer. and this is just in the last 2 minutes.
"I guess they have a reputation of being more of a tricky team and not being tough. You hit ‘em in the mouth, and they don’t like it. Other teams that have beat them just hit them in the mouth, so that’s what we started out with.’’ - Nick Moody
the key is when, now how many
key calls made and not made in BC’s favor. we are given some of the ones you have to give, along with some useless non-shooting fouls. the stat line looks fair, but the game is not called fair. thats how the NBA refs do it and get way with throwing games. gotta be clever when inserting yourself into a game, unless your name is Karl Hess.
"I guess they have a reputation of being more of a tricky team and not being tough. You hit ‘em in the mouth, and they don’t like it. Other teams that have beat them just hit them in the mouth, so that’s what we started out with.’’ - Nick Moody
Three of their starters have 2 fouls, while only one of our starter has 2 fouls
We’ve shot 3 more free throws than they have…
indicators of unfair reffing just aren’t present
again, the numbers are going to look good
its the when that matters
"I guess they have a reputation of being more of a tricky team and not being tough. You hit ‘em in the mouth, and they don’t like it. Other teams that have beat them just hit them in the mouth, so that’s what we started out with.’’ - Nick Moody
Doc can lend you one
guaranteed to be copper-free, but it will probably block any cell phone signal
"I guess they have a reputation of being more of a tricky team and not being tough. You hit ‘em in the mouth, and they don’t like it. Other teams that have beat them just hit them in the mouth, so that’s what we started out with.’’ - Nick Moody
Trending
We cant keep blowing double digit leads…UVA and now this.
"It's great to beat a Florida Gator...It's great to beat a Florida Gator..."
by garnet and golden in jax on Feb 8, 2012 7:56 PM EST reply actions
you mean "aaa's"?
"I guess they have a reputation of being more of a tricky team and not being tough. You hit ‘em in the mouth, and they don’t like it. Other teams that have beat them just hit them in the mouth, so that’s what we started out with.’’ - Nick Moody
no praaablem
wicked good game, this one, eh? Bahston Cahllege is all ovah it
"I guess they have a reputation of being more of a tricky team and not being tough. You hit ‘em in the mouth, and they don’t like it. Other teams that have beat them just hit them in the mouth, so that’s what we started out with.’’ - Nick Moody
Is there no good live stream that's still up?
If we can't laugh at ourselves, Packer fans will call us crybabies and we will be forced to kick their tooth in. I really don't want to go to jail (again).
by Alittlemore_cowbell on Feb 8, 2012 8:00 PM EST reply actions
Front row sports is working tonight.
http://www.firstrowsports.eu/watch/106499/1/watch-%2817%29-florida-st.-vs-boston-college.html
"Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man." The Dude
Thanks
I swear to god it wasn’t working 20 minutes ago.
If we can't laugh at ourselves, Packer fans will call us crybabies and we will be forced to kick their tooth in. I really don't want to go to jail (again).
by Alittlemore_cowbell on Feb 8, 2012 8:04 PM EST up reply actions
It wasn't. Kicked in at the 8:00 minute mark.
"Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man." The Dude
by pasadenanole22 on Feb 8, 2012 8:06 PM EST up reply actions
UVA up by 11 over Wake w/ six minutes left
"It's great to beat a Florida Gator...It's great to beat a Florida Gator..."
by garnet and golden in jax on Feb 8, 2012 8:04 PM EST reply actions
were we up or down in the other 2?
and how did the second half look, statistically? i assume the opponent looked worse, but did our defense look better or was it a result of us just outshooting them?
"I guess they have a reputation of being more of a tricky team and not being tough. You hit ‘em in the mouth, and they don’t like it. Other teams that have beat them just hit them in the mouth, so that’s what we started out with.’’ - Nick Moody
I thought BC couldn't shoot 3's!!!
Dude we are getting handled right now by a far inferior team, even though we’re only down by 1 at half
9 3's.
If all sports fandom is a form of emotional gambling, football is poker and hockey is Russian roulette.
Yep. Needed to step back for the easy shot.
If all sports fandom is a form of emotional gambling, football is poker and hockey is Russian roulette.
is that a room reference?
"I guess they have a reputation of being more of a tricky team and not being tough. You hit ‘em in the mouth, and they don’t like it. Other teams that have beat them just hit them in the mouth, so that’s what we started out with.’’ - Nick Moody
we have become quite adept at hitting the post defender in the last few games
"I guess they have a reputation of being more of a tricky team and not being tough. You hit ‘em in the mouth, and they don’t like it. Other teams that have beat them just hit them in the mouth, so that’s what we started out with.’’ - Nick Moody
It was sort of like the old Tim Pickett breakaways.
Where you wondered whether he’d make it high enough to dunk or not.
by seminoleballer on Feb 8, 2012 8:15 PM EST up reply actions
Dulkys can flat out fly
he just doesnt do it in-game – saves it for the preseason exhibition
"I guess they have a reputation of being more of a tricky team and not being tough. You hit ‘em in the mouth, and they don’t like it. Other teams that have beat them just hit them in the mouth, so that’s what we started out with.’’ - Nick Moody
Another pass into the post...
Aaaaand another TO.
dont try to do it on facebook
you will never find the button
"I guess they have a reputation of being more of a tricky team and not being tough. You hit ‘em in the mouth, and they don’t like it. Other teams that have beat them just hit them in the mouth, so that’s what we started out with.’’ - Nick Moody
How do you keep a gator fan busy?
Tell him to Dislike FSU on Facebook…
Miller gets the first successful post lob in weeks
"I guess they have a reputation of being more of a tricky team and not being tough. You hit ‘em in the mouth, and they don’t like it. Other teams that have beat them just hit them in the mouth, so that’s what we started out with.’’ - Nick Moody
yep
out of control will do that to you every time
"I guess they have a reputation of being more of a tricky team and not being tough. You hit ‘em in the mouth, and they don’t like it. Other teams that have beat them just hit them in the mouth, so that’s what we started out with.’’ - Nick Moody
Who is Gibson playing for??
First he tips one in for BC now he negates a miller shot.
nothing wrong with clearing a little space under the basket
but he shoved one player into another who was already in the air. that just cant happen.
"I guess they have a reputation of being more of a tricky team and not being tough. You hit ‘em in the mouth, and they don’t like it. Other teams that have beat them just hit them in the mouth, so that’s what we started out with.’’ - Nick Moody
wow, that was a strange T
be a little less sensitive there, ref
"I guess they have a reputation of being more of a tricky team and not being tough. You hit ‘em in the mouth, and they don’t like it. Other teams that have beat them just hit them in the mouth, so that’s what we started out with.’’ - Nick Moody
i didnt really see anything
looked like he said something to the effect of “come on” or “foul”. i didnt see the cacophony that accompanies an expletive
"I guess they have a reputation of being more of a tricky team and not being tough. You hit ‘em in the mouth, and they don’t like it. Other teams that have beat them just hit them in the mouth, so that’s what we started out with.’’ - Nick Moody
i would normally agree
but i just didnt see him say much. probably been complaining all game and slowly pissing that guy off.
"I guess they have a reputation of being more of a tricky team and not being tough. You hit ‘em in the mouth, and they don’t like it. Other teams that have beat them just hit them in the mouth, so that’s what we started out with.’’ - Nick Moody
10 10 10 20s and them 50s
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cFmqMe0pQ5A
"I guess they have a reputation of being more of a tricky team and not being tough. You hit ‘em in the mouth, and they don’t like it. Other teams that have beat them just hit them in the mouth, so that’s what we started out with.’’ - Nick Moody
We look lackadaisical.
Mike Martin should go coach Hawaii. Then he could have all the poi's he ever wanted - MattDNole
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the ESPN gamecast is
Wayyyyyy behind still says halftime wtf
F-L-O-R-I-D-A-S-T-A-T-E, FLORIDA STATE, FLORIDA STATE, FLORIDA STATE, WOO
i have seen that grin before
it usually means “yeah, that wasnt a foul, but screw that guy”
"I guess they have a reputation of being more of a tricky team and not being tough. You hit ‘em in the mouth, and they don’t like it. Other teams that have beat them just hit them in the mouth, so that’s what we started out with.’’ - Nick Moody
Some really bad calls tonnight.
Mike Martin should go coach Hawaii. Then he could have all the poi's he ever wanted - MattDNole
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tonight*
Mike Martin should go coach Hawaii. Then he could have all the poi's he ever wanted - MattDNole
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No doubt. We look bad.
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career high for Jordan Daniels
can anybody say “once in a lifetime night”? looking like Scott Wood out there.
"I guess they have a reputation of being more of a tricky team and not being tough. You hit ‘em in the mouth, and they don’t like it. Other teams that have beat them just hit them in the mouth, so that’s what we started out with.’’ - Nick Moody
i am aware, yes
short career, but less of a reason for him to look this good because he is a freshman
"I guess they have a reputation of being more of a tricky team and not being tough. You hit ‘em in the mouth, and they don’t like it. Other teams that have beat them just hit them in the mouth, so that’s what we started out with.’’ - Nick Moody
Wow.
This is just one of those games where everything has gone right for BC, and everything gone wrong for FSU
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51-47 BC. 9:55 to go.
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"BC looking for a signature win"
bwahahahaha homer. BC just looking for a WIN.
"I guess they have a reputation of being more of a tricky team and not being tough. You hit ‘em in the mouth, and they don’t like it. Other teams that have beat them just hit them in the mouth, so that’s what we started out with.’’ - Nick Moody
NO CHARGE???
"I guess they have a reputation of being more of a tricky team and not being tough. You hit ‘em in the mouth, and they don’t like it. Other teams that have beat them just hit them in the mouth, so that’s what we started out with.’’ - Nick Moody
JESUS
it was even more obvious on the replay, and the ref was right on top of it
"I guess they have a reputation of being more of a tricky team and not being tough. You hit ‘em in the mouth, and they don’t like it. Other teams that have beat them just hit them in the mouth, so that’s what we started out with.’’ - Nick Moody
yes he did
"I guess they have a reputation of being more of a tricky team and not being tough. You hit ‘em in the mouth, and they don’t like it. Other teams that have beat them just hit them in the mouth, so that’s what we started out with.’’ - Nick Moody
Gibson
is really just awkward in everything he does on the court
like i said before
he is 6’5" in a 6’11" body
"I guess they have a reputation of being more of a tricky team and not being tough. You hit ‘em in the mouth, and they don’t like it. Other teams that have beat them just hit them in the mouth, so that’s what we started out with.’’ - Nick Moody
they can't give his 4th
that was his 2nd 4th on white
LOL.
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This is looking like the old FSU.
…I guess we peaked a little early.
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by fsutampaguy on Feb 8, 2012 8:35 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
When I told my dad that our next 3 games were win-able, he told me "That means you'll lose 2 of the 3."
Damn, I wish he didn’t know this team so well.
How many damn timeouts are we gong to have?
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4-15 from 3.
Ouch.
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they have been doing that all game long
that seems to have been the plan
"I guess they have a reputation of being more of a tricky team and not being tough. You hit ‘em in the mouth, and they don’t like it. Other teams that have beat them just hit them in the mouth, so that’s what we started out with.’’ - Nick Moody
haha
the own goal and goaltending may support that opinion
"I guess they have a reputation of being more of a tricky team and not being tough. You hit ‘em in the mouth, and they don’t like it. Other teams that have beat them just hit them in the mouth, so that’s what we started out with.’’ - Nick Moody
4-15 from 3.
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I thought it was good when it left his hand
by Michael Rogner on Feb 8, 2012 8:44 PM EST up reply actions
it looked good, just a little too much on it
"I guess they have a reputation of being more of a tricky team and not being tough. You hit ‘em in the mouth, and they don’t like it. Other teams that have beat them just hit them in the mouth, so that’s what we started out with.’’ - Nick Moody
Stop shooting farking 3's.
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yep
all you need is a good run to close out the game. just ask Mizzou.
"I guess they have a reputation of being more of a tricky team and not being tough. You hit ‘em in the mouth, and they don’t like it. Other teams that have beat them just hit them in the mouth, so that’s what we started out with.’’ - Nick Moody
beautiful fake and drive by Snaer
split the D and dropped it in under control
"I guess they have a reputation of being more of a tricky team and not being tough. You hit ‘em in the mouth, and they don’t like it. Other teams that have beat them just hit them in the mouth, so that’s what we started out with.’’ - Nick Moody
i dont see that happening against Miami at home
this is our “trap game” of the week, and this performance will piss them off
"I guess they have a reputation of being more of a tricky team and not being tough. You hit ‘em in the mouth, and they don’t like it. Other teams that have beat them just hit them in the mouth, so that’s what we started out with.’’ - Nick Moody
Fuuuuuuu.
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how the hell is that not a foul?
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What a shit call.
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this is looking like a loss
thanks to the refs, BC shooting lights out, and our dumb TOs. not much can turn this around at this point unless they actually start calling anything for us.
"I guess they have a reputation of being more of a tricky team and not being tough. You hit ‘em in the mouth, and they don’t like it. Other teams that have beat them just hit them in the mouth, so that’s what we started out with.’’ - Nick Moody
Hahahahahahahahaha.
Good one.
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that business under the bucket is this game, in a microcosm
"I guess they have a reputation of being more of a tricky team and not being tough. You hit ‘em in the mouth, and they don’t like it. Other teams that have beat them just hit them in the mouth, so that’s what we started out with.’’ - Nick Moody
Things BC can do in this game:
Foul
Charge
Travel
Foul
Touch the ball out of bounds
Elbow
and….
draw the “in the act of shooting” even when the ball is on the ground.
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Need points here, bad.
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Best defender
he’s staying
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by freshcollegeboy on Feb 8, 2012 8:54 PM EST up reply actions
Snaer shoots one that goes in and out AGAIN
nothing going down wow
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Snaer cannot hit anything
and Okaro doesnt walk away, gets shoved off and gets the foul
"I guess they have a reputation of being more of a tricky team and not being tough. You hit ‘em in the mouth, and they don’t like it. Other teams that have beat them just hit them in the mouth, so that’s what we started out with.’’ - Nick Moody
Snaer needs to sit.
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Fuck these refs.
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Miller hits both
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Another foul?!
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Very ticky tack it seems there
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by freshcollegeboy on Feb 8, 2012 8:55 PM EST up reply actions
how many is that on Okaro?
"I guess they have a reputation of being more of a tricky team and not being tough. You hit ‘em in the mouth, and they don’t like it. Other teams that have beat them just hit them in the mouth, so that’s what we started out with.’’ - Nick Moody
Does it matter at this point?
Almost out of time.
would you rather have him out there
or James/Gibson? Gibson is just bad, and James cant shoot FTs
"I guess they have a reputation of being more of a tricky team and not being tough. You hit ‘em in the mouth, and they don’t like it. Other teams that have beat them just hit them in the mouth, so that’s what we started out with.’’ - Nick Moody
When in doubt...
….just call fouls on FSU.
-Sincerely, ACC officiating crew chief.
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Free throws for us again
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BC FINALLY in the bonus
still think the calls have been fair?
"I guess they have a reputation of being more of a tricky team and not being tough. You hit ‘em in the mouth, and they don’t like it. Other teams that have beat them just hit them in the mouth, so that’s what we started out with.’’ - Nick Moody
Okaro hits both!
DOWN THREE!!!
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great block
nice recovery
"I guess they have a reputation of being more of a tricky team and not being tough. You hit ‘em in the mouth, and they don’t like it. Other teams that have beat them just hit them in the mouth, so that’s what we started out with.’’ - Nick Moody
dammit Loucks
"I guess they have a reputation of being more of a tricky team and not being tough. You hit ‘em in the mouth, and they don’t like it. Other teams that have beat them just hit them in the mouth, so that’s what we started out with.’’ - Nick Moody
wtf
Roses are red, Violets are blue, If it wears orange, Kill it.
And that's game.
Horrible clock management.
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I can't believe we're going to lose to the worst team in the conference.
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Afuckingpparently.
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Should we have call a time out there to draw up a play?
Oh well
by Nolesferatu on Feb 8, 2012 8:59 PM EST via mobile reply actions
and with those made FTs, that is game
storm the court and hold up the refs, BC fans
"I guess they have a reputation of being more of a tricky team and not being tough. You hit ‘em in the mouth, and they don’t like it. Other teams that have beat them just hit them in the mouth, so that’s what we started out with.’’ - Nick Moody
Dumb, Stupid, Foolish, Moronic, Idiotic...
What the fuck was that, Luke?
/Apologies. It was necessary
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No need to apologize.
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Dulkys
Missed James all alone with his defender posted all the way out of bounds
Not sure what happened
Rest of post said Dulkys missed wide open James who had backed his defender out of bounds under the rim. Easy dunk. Instead passes to Loucks for that brick.
And our old team is back.
It was bound to happen.
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I think it's terribly obvious that BostonNole is to blame here
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this is worse than auburn last year
bc really really sucks…
Not true
Auburn hadn’t beaten a top 200 team all year. BC’s beaten Clemson and VT already this year.
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by freshcollegeboy on Feb 8, 2012 9:03 PM EST up reply actions
Auburn was much, much worse
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/team/schedule/_/id/2/year/2011/auburn-tigers
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by freshcollegeboy on Feb 8, 2012 9:08 PM EST up reply actions
and NOW HE MAKES THE 3
Jesus, Snaer
"I guess they have a reputation of being more of a tricky team and not being tough. You hit ‘em in the mouth, and they don’t like it. Other teams that have beat them just hit them in the mouth, so that’s what we started out with.’’ - Nick Moody
Jesus, Snaer gets one NOW?
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Oh well
Can’t let one team bet your twice. Still gonna be in the top echelon of the ACC
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so now we have to hope the guy thats having a career night misses
and he misses the first…so we ice him
"I guess they have a reputation of being more of a tricky team and not being tough. You hit ‘em in the mouth, and they don’t like it. Other teams that have beat them just hit them in the mouth, so that’s what we started out with.’’ - Nick Moody
he makes the 2nd, and we have to hope for a made 3 and a dumb foul
not gonna happen, even if we get fouled
"I guess they have a reputation of being more of a tricky team and not being tough. You hit ‘em in the mouth, and they don’t like it. Other teams that have beat them just hit them in the mouth, so that’s what we started out with.’’ - Nick Moody
Wow.
This is right up there with the football team losing to wake!
by wojcianole on Feb 8, 2012 9:03 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Let's be honest
Basketball is much different
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by freshcollegeboy on Feb 8, 2012 9:04 PM EST up reply actions
Not in my eyes
I am very passionate about all FSU athletics so to me atleast when they lose to teams they should easily beat I am crushed. And by no means am I saying that you are not passionate just telling ya my side.
by wojcianole on Feb 8, 2012 9:08 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Someone did, can't remember who..
Also, fucking freshmen. Wish someone would bow him in the face.
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#1?
I think he was telling the camera how many wins his team has.
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they are the #1 Catholic college in the ACC, does that count?
"I guess they have a reputation of being more of a tricky team and not being tough. You hit ‘em in the mouth, and they don’t like it. Other teams that have beat them just hit them in the mouth, so that’s what we started out with.’’ - Nick Moody
Neither did I
I knew we’d lose a game we shouldn’t, but I thought it would at least be someone better than BC
Blame the ranking.
Wish they didn’t even have regular season rankings.
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Yeah, once you climb into the top 25,
You start to get everyone’s A game. That being said, the 3-point shooting by BC was Dulkyesque!
they just hit everything
and we couldn’t. combined with the uneven reffing. I’m not too concerned about this. That’s bball.
Michael, I got this.
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Game Summary: Done
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by CornNole on Feb 8, 2012 9:08 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
They get one
This is the one slip-up they had left, I suppose. With three tough games on the road (NC State, Miami, UVA) and Duke, FSU just gave up more margin for error than I would like.
They need to sweep the home games against VaTech, Miami, and Clemson, and need to at least split that 4 game set @NC State, Duke, @Miami, and @UVA. If they can do that, the team is still at 12-4 in conference. Not quite the dream run people were hoping for, but not too bad I suppose. Can still go on a dream run, but with tonight’s loss it would take pretty much running the table.
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by shonole on Feb 8, 2012 9:09 PM EST reply actions 4 recs
I'm just worried
That a loss like this will steamroll the players and they will play like crap until Duke comes into Tally. In years past something like this would send us on a nice losing streak, so hopefully they come out strong and put the smack down on Miami next game.
by wojcianole on Feb 8, 2012 9:11 PM EST via mobile reply actions
i think they will see this for what it was
we didnt play so badly, it was BC who played some kind of awesome at times (and got a lot of help). its hard to get mad at a team that sucks, but gets hot out of nowhere. they havent scored more than 0.9 PPP all season, who wants to bet this one is well over 1.0?
"I guess they have a reputation of being more of a tricky team and not being tough. You hit ‘em in the mouth, and they don’t like it. Other teams that have beat them just hit them in the mouth, so that’s what we started out with.’’ - Nick Moody
There they are
the Noles we were just getting used to NOT seeing. F-word. Gotta bounce back
BC is capable of playing well at home
They beat Clemson, who we lost to by 20. It’s amazing how much better we look when we hit shots. Tonight, they did and we didn’t. We are not skilled enough offensively to diversify our scoring when the 3 ball isn’t falling. James was on fire inside early and we went away from him for the rest of the game. Mysterious.
James was in foul trouble
refs took him out. only 8 mins in first half. then early third foul. and early 4th. he played last 8 mins but you could tell he was restricted
Good point sperrett1
Although Ham did just say on the post game show that we didn’t get the ball inside nearly enough.. Not sure why the coaching staff doesn’t make the adjustment.
He also said we are “0-fer” for the year against teams who run patient offenses like BC.. said we gave up to many easy 3’s and didn’t play with the energy we need to…
by nycmidtownnole on Feb 8, 2012 9:29 PM EST up reply actions
We passed up a LOT of open 3's.
I wonder if we became a bit too mono faceted, and that BC read and reacted?
Typical
If you didn’t see this coming you need to get your head examined
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by Sem1nole on Feb 8, 2012 9:15 PM EST via mobile reply actions
notice to the resident basketball writer
you need your head examined. we will all meet you there, just schedule the appt for about 1000
"I guess they have a reputation of being more of a tricky team and not being tough. You hit ‘em in the mouth, and they don’t like it. Other teams that have beat them just hit them in the mouth, so that’s what we started out with.’’ - Nick Moody
You mean tonight?
Or at some point during the rest of the season?
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At some point
I actually had a conversation with someone close to the team today who said this is just the type of game.
"But they understand expectations don’t win games. And just because you’re picked to win, they don’t give you the trophy when the season starts. And we tell our kids that we have to form great habits and have great work ethic and form our identity as a team. We just have to reinforce that everyday because as we tell them, the pressure of expectations is only there if we aren’t prepared for them. If we prepared for them and we’re prepared mentally and physically, the pressure of the expectation won’t bother us." - Jimbo Fisher
Is it just me...
Or does the rest of our schedule look a whole lot tougher now?
Actually, I felt nervous about this game for some reason.
But now I feel better about Miami on Saturday.
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