NCAA proposes moving kickoffs
CHARLOTTE, N.C. -- The NCAA football rules committee has proposed moving kickoffs from the 30-yard line to the 35 and to limit the running start by players on the kicking team to 5 yards as a way of keeping players safer.
NCAA says its injury data indicates injuries during kickoffs occur more often than in other phases of the game.
The NFL moved up kickoffs 5 yards this past season and touchbacks increased dramatically.
The committee also proposed a rule that would require a player who loses his helmet during a play to stop participating and leave the game for one play, and proposed changes to rules regarding blocking below the waist and blocking on punt returns.
All rules change recommendations must be approved by the playing rules oversight panel, which meets Feb. 21.
Why not start teams at the 20? Or just convert to 2 hand touch?
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NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
we just got a new toy, and we wouldnt be able to use him hardly at all. that would be TRBL.
"I guess they have a reputation of being more of a tricky team and not being tough. You hit ‘em in the mouth, and they don’t like it. Other teams that have beat them just hit them in the mouth, so that’s what we started out with.’’ - Nick Moody
I don't know
with his speed he’s out of the end zone and racing down the sidelines before the kickoff team even realizes he didn’t call for a touchback!
unless it's out the back of the endzone
Let him take it out. It costs at most 5 yards and could be a big field position switch.
by ACC_Apologist on Feb 10, 2012 12:44 PM EST up reply actions
I don't get it...
Other than the horrific crushing hits with a WR over the middle kind of thing…
Most of those helmets seem to pop off at the line, and most of the time the players aren’t even injured, no?
I think that the point
is to give coaches an incentive to ensure that players are wearing them properly. If the helmet is strapped correctly, it shouldn’t come off. Players are wearing them far too loosely. And if a coach has to worry that he could end up losing a player on a key down because their helmet came off, they’re going to be sure that everyone has it on properly.
by BobLoblaw113 on Feb 11, 2012 3:14 PM EST up reply actions
Seems that they come off way to easily to me. You are correct that there are no injuries as a result. Not everything needs to be done to correct injury though, sometimes changes are made to prevent a risk of injury. This is not why I liked it, I just hate seeing the game delayed due to them falling off
wouldnt the game be delayed while those substitutions are made?
Does the clock stop? That could be a really big deal in certain situations. Players have other incentives to strap up.
Saw Peter Warrick play once. The rest is history...
I would be in favor of eliminating (or modifying the rules for) cut blocks...
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So a guy who has his helmet get ripped of or something
gets punished and has to sit a play? Thats just stupid.
by Deaux on Feb 10, 2012 10:00 AM EST reply actions 2 recs
Amen, brother.
I can see making him stop on that play. I don’t really agree with it, but I can see it. Making him sit out the next play? That’s just retarded.
Most Miami fans have a bad case of SARS. Slap Ass Retarded Syndrome.
by Nole Resurrected on Feb 10, 2012 10:33 AM EST up reply actions
To combat this problem players, is it possible that players could over-secure their helmet to their head? I’m thinking this could result in increased neck injuries.
by CrimiNole Defense on Feb 10, 2012 10:35 AM EST up reply actions
trust me, they dont strap up
everybody wants to be lazy and rock the Michael Vick look, with only 1 snap connected and the other one hanging. that defeats the purpose of having a helmet. that, and the rule seems to be to encourage the players to make sure the helmet is on tight. if i cant see a mark on your forehead, it wasnt tight enough.
"I guess they have a reputation of being more of a tricky team and not being tough. You hit ‘em in the mouth, and they don’t like it. Other teams that have beat them just hit them in the mouth, so that’s what we started out with.’’ - Nick Moody
by nole07 on Feb 10, 2012 12:32 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I would love to know how they plan to enforce a player to stop playing after his helmet comes off.
Is the ref gonna try and tackle the player? I understand that players running around w/o a helmet is dangerous but how often do you see a player get injured after continuing to play after his helmet comes off? Good luck getting the ball carrier to stop running if his helmet comes off. Making a player sit out the next play if his helmet comes off is ridiculous. If they do manage to pass that rule in some degree it needs to be the 2nd time a particular player has his helmet come off.
by jenolesone on Feb 10, 2012 1:39 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I think for several years there has been a rule in college
that if the ball carrier loses his helmet the play is dead at that very spot. I’ve often thought this is a good rule. It seems sensible to me.
I don’t agree with making a player sit out the next play, and as you’ve said how do you make someone stop participating— a left tackle loses his helmet so he lets his man run free to crush the QB? doesn’t make much sense
by IndyFSUnole on Feb 10, 2012 5:21 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
um, blow the play dead?
it isnt that hard to stop the play, dude. it isnt as though they have to tackle a guy who steps out of bounds and keeps running.
but i am not sure the rule even calls for stopping the play at all, just pulling the player for a snap.
"I guess they have a reputation of being more of a tricky team and not being tough. You hit ‘em in the mouth, and they don’t like it. Other teams that have beat them just hit them in the mouth, so that’s what we started out with.’’ - Nick Moody
Plus kids aren't going to abide
How many times do guys just get in the zone and keep on going. I think where the rule would do good would guys would actually buckle there chin strips all the way.
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No....
Look what it did to the NFL. One of the playoff games (I forget which one) had 0 kickoff returns the entire game.
If we can't laugh at ourselves, Packer fans will call us crybabies and we will be forced to kick their tooth in. I really don't want to go to jail (again).
by Alittlemore_cowbell on Feb 10, 2012 10:47 AM EST reply actions
It won't be that extreme in college though
Most college kickers had very few touchbacks with the ball spotted at the 30, so even with the added 5 it won’t make that much of a difference. DHop, on the other hand, will be kicking souvenirs to fans in the first few rows.
by BobLoblaw113 on Feb 11, 2012 3:18 PM EST up reply actions
Terrible for us in return game
I wonder how this will affect our kick coverage strategy. Unless the other team has a stud returner, you might see Hopkins coached to hit high balls near the goal line — I bet if we did, average starting position would be shy of the 25-yard-line.
This will also encourage more surprise onside kicks — even if you don’t recover, only giving up 30 yards of field position. Should probably try every time, truth be told.
by Fsued on Feb 10, 2012 10:52 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
I could be wrong,
but doesn’t the rule about the helmet kind of sound like a rule that says if you are
shot at and missed, you have to go to the hospital for 36 hours?
The kickoff change might actually favor us...
I’m not a fan of any of these FYI
1. Kickoff – with the leg strength we have at kicker we can sky kick/punt it (which we already prefer to do against lesser opponents) and give our D and O an even bigger advantage in relative field position. Still don’t like the slow move away from kickoffs.
2. How do you make a broad rule that will favor the person knocking someone’s helmet off? Knock dudes helmet off and he’ s done for that play and the next? Asinine
3. no below the waist at all? bye bye Paul Johnson.
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The way this is headed
The collision at home plate will be the most violent play in college sports.
Football is turning into a joke. If they want to eliminate injuries THAT bad, how about the coin flip decides the winner?
This is football. These kids play with SERIOUS incentive for the free education, benefits and professional prospects of making millions. The salary professional football players make is the equivalent of compensatory payment for pain and suffering and the prospects of injury. Give me that kind of money (or even reasonable prospects thereof) and I’ll throw some pads on and double as a practice dummy.
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by Sem1nole on Feb 10, 2012 5:38 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Who needs to an education once you've got life altering cognitive deficits?
Go tell it to Moses.
by FLpanhandler on Feb 11, 2012 11:02 AM EST up reply actions
Wasn't it just a couple of years ago
that College Football kicked off from the 35 anyways? The NFL whined to the NCAA that ‘They couldn’t evaluate kickers properly" so the asked them to move it to the 30 like the NFL had it. When the NFL season started and they had changed the kickoff to the 35 I knew the next season the NCAA would move it back to the 35 as well.
Go Knights! Go Boilers! Go 'Noles! Not necessarily in that order.
by UCFBoilerNole on Feb 10, 2012 8:06 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
The people on this board don't want to hear that
Change is bad. ’Nuff Said.
Go tell it to Moses.
by FLpanhandler on Feb 11, 2012 11:03 AM EST up reply actions
that is a massive broad stroke painting
many of us would love to see common sense changes to the game that do not turn it into flag football. there are ways to change the game that actually make it more manly than it is now. getting rid of cut blocks (which can be just as dangerous as high/low chop blocks) would be a great development. block me up high like a man, dont dive at my knees like a wuss. if you cannot even attempt to beat me 1 on 1, and your method has a good chance of hurting me, i have no respect for you, and i dont think you are worth the scholarship they are giving you. the sad part is that coaches like Paul Johnson teach this nonsense.
there are many ways of changing the game, but still keeping it a man’s game that includes big hits and big plays.
"I guess they have a reputation of being more of a tricky team and not being tough. You hit ‘em in the mouth, and they don’t like it. Other teams that have beat them just hit them in the mouth, so that’s what we started out with.’’ - Nick Moody
My sentiments exactly.
block me up high like a man, dont dive at my knees like a wuss. if you cannot even attempt to beat me 1 on 1, and your method has a good chance of hurting me, i have no respect for you, and i dont think you are worth the scholarship they are giving you.
Oddly enough, seemingly every front-7 defender in football shares this outlook.
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That's reasonable, and your proposal is difficult to disagree with; however,
these discussion usually turn into “be a man” versus “don’t kill the kids.” I suppose I was most turned off by Sem1noles comments, which are a caricature of the position many of you take. With that said, it is ridiculous to say that moving kickoffs to the 35 or holding athletes out after plays where did not properly secure their helmets is a gateway to flag football. Is it possible that a really big hit could knock off a helmet? Of course, but the rate of helmets flying off is a result of keeping buckles loose or even deflating the air cushions. A rule like the one proposed is a preventive measure designed to threaten athletes who won’t properly wear gear designed for their safety.
The way you state your point makes it seem like anyone who advocates for safety measures is a sissy. You make the straw man flag football comment and then follow is up with a comment about manliness. It’s just tiresome to hear arguments about how football is going to be ruined as a result of a few changes. Sports evolve. It’s going to be okay.
Go tell it to Moses.
by FLpanhandler on Feb 12, 2012 12:31 AM EST up reply actions






























