The FSU Softball Team started off the 2012 season over the weekend, and they came out strong. The Noles started 5-0 over the weekend with Friday victories over Stephen F. Austin (I attended) & Ole Miss. Saturday featured two victories over Tennessee Tech (the late game by mercy rule). Sunday's championship game featured not only an 8-0, 5 inning mercy rule, but also a 5 inning no-hitter by true freshman Lacey Waldrop.

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Though we are barely out of National Signing Day 2012, I thought a look into a possible future for us to 1 February 2013 could be fun...

For an in-depth look at current FSU targets and recommended targets please utilize the link below:

http://www.tomahawknation.com/2012/2/11/2791399/the-2013-recruiting-targets-from-a-fan

All predictions are not based on anything other than actual offers from Florida State and non-commit status to another university. As we have seen in the past two years, those who are committed to a program for a long time have cases of amnesia on NSD...or despicable ploys to undermine the Seminoles...either way, hope you enjoy this...

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So you are awaiting for FSU to become the 2013 #1 recruiting class? And you say you NEED to have a good understanding of what is happening behind the Garnet and Gold curtain? Well, not to worry my fellow Seminole; I am but a fan, but I hope to give you some clarity to whom our beloved coaches are recruiting to make that happen...

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All target lines below are read as: Name/POS, 247 rank/RIvals rank, position type, state, information. Scout has not given ratings at this time but will update accordingly.

Johnathan McCrary QB - 4**** 92 247/Rivals#80 4* DUAL GA (FSU in top schools; 11 offers ALA lead; GA schools/CLEM/ND/TX/OSU/TENN/KY)

Kevin Olsen QB - 4**** 95 247/Rivals#131 4* PRO NJ (FSU 247 cold along w/ all teams; 17 offers; assorted)

Brice Ramsey QB - 4**** 94 247 Rivals #249 4* PRO GA VERB:UGA 7/15/2011 (11 schools 5 offers; UF/BAMA/CLEM)

Greg Bryant RB - 4**** 94 247/Rivals#23 4* RB FL FL 3A 1stTM All-State /FSU not among faves (23 schools; USC lead/Bama/ND/OU)

Ryan Green RB - 4**** 94 247/Rivals#90 4* RB FL FSU top 2 battle with UF (247)

Keith Ford RB - unrated 247/Rivals #113 4* RB TX FSU offered late (15 schools, 12 offers BAMA/BAY/MICH/NEB/UNC/ND/OKST/TENN/TAMU/ TT/UTAH {AUB/OU/TX})

A.J. Turman RB - 4*** 94 247/Rivals #123 4* RB FL FSU among faves (16 schools; 4-7 offers BC/FLATL/NCST/CONN/UCF/VAND)

Alex Collins RB - 4**** 90 247/Rivals#147 4* RB FL FSU offered after commit VERB: MIA 1/15/2012 (7 schools 5 offers; BALLST/BC/WIS {AUB/UF})

Ryan Switzer - RB 3*** 89 247/Rivals UnO 4* RB/ ATH WR/CB WV FSU among faves (15 schools; 12 offers PENN/WF/OHIO/VAND/WASH/MAR/PUR/GT/NW/BG/DUKE {WV/PITT/VT}

Keyante Green - RB 3*** 86 247/Rivals UnO 4* RB GA UGA Fave TEN warm 247 (18 schools;15 offers )

Daryl Chestnut RB - unrated 247/Rivals UnO 4* RB FL MIA lean (8 schools, 2 offers FIU {KANST/MISSST/UNC/WV/UCF

Stacy Coley - WR 4**** 95 247/Rivals#45 4* WR FL FSU 247 warm (Top 4 schools; UF/WV/MIA)

Earnest Robinson - WR 4**** 90 247/Rivals#101 4* WR AL heavy ALA/AUB (7 offers MIA/MISSSt/ORE)

Jordan Cunningham - WR 4**** 92 247/Rivals#125 4* WR FL FSU top 5 (247) (14 schools; 12 offers MIA/ND/STAN - ALA no offer)

Taj Williams - WR 4**** 91 247/Rivals#177 4* WR FL loc: Lincoln HS heavy CLEM/UGA (13 offers 15 schools UF/GT/ND/USF/FIU/FLAtl/MISS/MISSST/IAST {LOUIS/USCe})

Jesus Wilson - WR 3*** 86 247/Rivals#200 4* WR FL FSU 247 warm (6 schools; 3 offers FIU/WV; {MIA/ORE/VAND})

Uriah LeMay - WR 3*** 88 247/Rivals#212 4* WR NC FSU 247 cold along w/ all teams (23 schools; 22 offers; assorted)

Rodney Adams - WR 4**** 90 247/Rivals#234 4* WR FL FSU 247 warm UF lean (14 schools; 8 offers OU/SANDIEST/USF/MIA/VAND/TOL; {ND/IND/LOUIS/UCF/UCLA} )

Richard Benjamin - WR 3*** 88 247/Rivals UnO 4* WR S FL FSU top 2 battle with UF (247) (17 schools; 15 offers BAMA/AUB/CLEM/USF/ND/OSU/WV/WIS)

Adam Breneman - TE 4**** 96 247/Rivals#22 *4 TE PA MD/PENN lead FSU #3 Rivals/247 cold (26 schools; assorted interest )

Mike Heuerman - TE unrated 247/Rivalsa UnO 4* TE FL FSU offered late; 247 cold along w/ all teams (12 schools; 6 offers; MIA/ND/PUR/USF/USCe {UF/LSU/CLEM/OSU)

Laremy Tunsil - OL 5***** 98 247/Rivals#3 5* OT FL Rivals FSU#1 / 247 UF lean loc: Lake City (11-13 offers; 13-17 schools Elite schools)

Patrick Kugler - OL 4**** 92 247/Rivals#54 4* OT PA FSU in top schools (23 offers BOISE/MIA/PENN/PITT/STAN/CUSE/CAL/COLO

Austin Golson - OL 4**** 93 247/Rivals#57 4*FSU OT AL Verbal: FSU 4/11/2011 (13 schools; 8 offers BAMA/AUB/CLEM/KY/SoMISS/STAN/WF {ARK/UF/LSU/ORE/TENN})

Logan Tuley-Tillman - OL 4**** 94 247/Rivals#109 4* OT IL heavy ALA/MICH lean OSU/ND (19 offers; 24 intrs)

John Lopez - OL 4**** 90 247/Rivals#126 4* OT OG CA FSU in top schools (11 schools, 2 offers COLO)

David Dawson - OL 4**** 90 247/Rivals #199 4* OT MI FSU in top schools (21 schools, 9 offers AZST/BAY/EMICH/IND/MISSOU/CUSE/TAMU/TT {BAMA/COLO/HOU/IOW/LSU/ MIA/MICH/MICHST/TENN/WIS})

Joe Fennell - OL 3*** 89 247/Rivals UnO 4* OT FL FSU in top schools (10 schools, 10 offers UF/UGA/ILL/IND/KY/MIA/USCe/USF/WV)

Austin Droogsma - OL unrated 247/Rivals UnO 5* OG FL FSU in top schools (10 schools, 3 offers GT/USF {BAMA/AUB/CLEM/UF/MISS/USCe/Troy})

Joey Bosa - DE 4**** 95 247/Rivals#14 4* SDE FL BAMA heavy (9 schools;OSU/IOWA/ILL/WIS/UF/BC/OLEMISS - nephew of former OSU Eric Kumerow

Isaac Rochell - DE 4**** 96 247/Rivals#73 4* SDE OT/ DT GA FSU among 23 schools (ACC/SEC schools)

Tashawn Bower - DE 4**** 247/Rivals #250 4* WDE NJ FSU/all offers cold (18 offers 22 schools assorted)

Dajaun Drennon - DE 3*** 88 247/Rivals UnO 4* SDE WDE NJ FSU in top schools (21 schools, 17 offers BC/CONN/IOWA/KY/MD/MICH/MISS/UNC/PENN/PUR/RUT/USF/CUSE/TENN/VIR/WASH {CIN/UF/MICST/ORE})

Reginald Carter - DE 3*** 88 247/Rivals UnO 4* WDE ILB/OLB GA FSU in top schools (16 schools, 12 offers BAMA/MICH/MISS/MISST/UNC/USCe/USF/TENN/UCF/VAND/USCw {UF/GT/KY/AUB})

Corey Vereen - DE 3*** 85 247/Rivals UnO 4* ILB OLB FL FSU in top schools (17 schools, 5 offers MINN/TEN/USF/UCF {AZ/AUB/CLEM/DUKE/UF/LOUIS/GT/MIA/MIDTENST/USCe/WASHST/WIS})

Matthew Thomas - LB 4**** 93 247/Rivals#12 4* OLB FL FSU top 6 (MIA lean/BAMA/WV/USF/UCF)

EJ Levenberry Jr - LB 4**** 96 247/Rivals#15 4* ILB VA FSU Top 7 (15 schools; ND/AUB/UF/OU/TENN/MICH

Trey Johnson - LB 4**** 93 247/Rivals#36 4* GA VERB: AUB 8/15/2011 (20 schools; 18 offers BAMA/CIN/CLEM/UF/GT/ILL/LOUIS/MIA/MISS/MISST/ NCST/ND/OSU/PENN/USCe/TENN/ {UGA/USCw})

Daniel McMIllian - LB 4**** 92 247/Rivals#53 4* FL VERB: UF 2/2/2012 day after NSD (19 schools; 7 offers BAMA/ARK/CLEM/USCe/WV {AUB/UGA/GT/LSU/MICHST/MISS/MISST/ND/OU/ORE/USF/TENN})

Johnny O'Neal - LB 3*** 84 247/Rivals#88 4* ILB GA FSU in top schools (9 offers BAMA/AUB/UF/USCe/UGA/GT/LOUIS/TENN

James Hearns - LB 4**** 91 247/Rivals#157 4* FL VERB: UF 2/2/2012 day after NSD; Lincoln / injury issues (21 schools; 16 offers BAMA/UGA/GT/LSU/MIA/MISST/NCST/ND/PENN/PUR/USCe/USF/TENN/WASH {AUB/COLO/NEB/ORE/CUSE})

Jermaine Grace - LB 3*** 89 247/Rivals 226 4* OLB S FL #1 247 (7 schools; 2 offers MIA {BAMA/UF/WV/USF/UNC}

Quinton Powell - LB 4**** 90 247/Rivals UnO 3* ILB FL FSU/all offers cold (15 schools; 12 offers ARK/CLEM/UF/LOUIS/MIA/MICHST/PUR/USCe/USF/VAND/WF {UGA/USCw/VT})

Montravius Adams - DT 5*****98 247/Rivals#33 4* DT GA FSU in top schools/top 9 on 247 (18 schools; 13 offers BAMA/AUB/CLEM/UF/UGA/KY/MIA/MICHST/MISS/MISSST/TENN/USCw {GT/NEB/OKST/USCe/TAMU})

Greg Webb - DT 4**** 94 247/Rivals#78 4* DT NJ FSU/all offers cold (17 offers MIA/NCST/UCONN/OK/CUSE/PENN/TENN)

Caleb Brantley - DT 4**** 90 247/Rivals#82 4* FL VERB: UF 1/28/2012 signed on Gator JRDay (15 schools; 5 offers MIA/USF/FAMU {BAMA/CAL/CLEM/UGA/LOUIS/NEB/PUR/TENN/USCw/VAND})

Kelsey Griffin - DT 4**** 94 247/Rivals#120 4* DT GA FSU in top schools (8 schools; 7 offers AUB/UGA/GT/USCe/TENN/USCw {VAND}

Marquedius Bain - DT 3*** 86 247/Rivals UnO 5* DT FL VERB: FSU 11/9/2011 Also possible Basketball commit (UF/USC/MIA still recruiting)

Deadrin Senat - DT 3*** 86 247/Rivals UnO 4* DT FL VERB:FSU 2/6/2012 (15 schools; 7 offers GT/MIA/USF/UCF/TENN/UNC

Keith Bryant - DT 3*** 86 247/Rivals UnO 4* FL VERB: MIA 1/15/2012 went to FSU JRDay stayed committed (8 schools; 4 offers MAR/USF/USCw {BAMA/UF/WV})

Kendall Fuller - DB 4**** 95 247/Rivals#4 5* CB MD FSU in top schools (15 offers; 20 schools ACC/SEC heavy, ND/OSU/OU/MICH/CAL)

Vernon Hargreaves III - DB 5***** 98 247/Rivals#10 5* CB FL FSU among faves (14 schools; UF/USF/MIA/OSU/ND/USC/VAN) Dad is DE/ST coach for USF; Hudson (family friend)

Mackensie Alexander - DB 4**** 97 247/Rivals#56 4* FL VERB: TENN: 1/11/2012 (15 schools; 12 offers ND/USF/TAMU/USCw/CLEM/UF/MIA/OSU/USCe/WIS {KAN/LOUIS/NCST})

Will Likely - DB 4**** 93 247/Rivals#79 4* CB FL FSU didn't offer until late; MIA lead (8 schools, 5 offers AL/LSU/USCe; UF/USCw/ORE)

Nick Washington - DB 4**** 94 247/Rivals#94 4* CB S FL FSU#3 Rivals (14 offers; 6 faves BAMA/AUB/CLEM/UF/USCe)

Kirk Garner - DB 4**** 91 247/Rivals UnO 4* CB S MD FSU in top schools (13 schools; 11 offers BC/CIN/MD/NCST/NAVY/OH/PUR/WV/VAND/VIRG {AUB/USCe})

Sojourn Shelton - DB 3*** 87 247/Rivals UnO 4* CB FL VERB: FSU 6/22/2011 (7 schools; 2 offers WIS {UF/LSU/OSU/LOUIS/UCF}

Leon McQuay III - DB 4**** 95 247/Rivals#32 4* S FL FSU #1 Rivals/cold#6 on 247 (top 5 schools; UF/VAND/ND/OSU

Marcell Harris - DB 4**** 95 247/Rivals#39 4* S FL FSU in top schools/warm on 247 (top 8 schools; UF/LSU/ND/TX/USF/USCe/NCST

Marquion Lane - ATH unrated 247/Rivals UnO 5*FL FSU in top schools (10 schools; 2 offers USF {AUB/UF/UGA/LOUIS/LSU/MD/ND/UCF})

PK Roberto Aguayo COM: FSU 2012 Greyshirt

11 days after NSD and we are at 60 offers, including the eight who have already committed elsewhere.

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This is who I think we should be looking at as well...after the jump...

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Please keep the comments about 2012 players to a minimum. This is about the 2013 class. You can voice your opinion on other pages on the front page. Thanks.

2013 Recruiting Needs Link

After the year the FSU offensive line had, I wondered how the other ACC teams faired when it came to starters and games played. I know subjectively we all felt the line was in flux but statistically what were the odds of this line falling apart like it did.

In order to find out I decided to take each ACC teams Game 1 starters and find out how many times they started the rest of the season. I approached it this way for the following reasons:

• 1. If an offensive lineman started Game 1, odds are he was viewed as one of the 5 best lineman available to the coaches
• 2. An offensive lineman plays most of the game and only comes out in the case of a substantial injury, I focused on starts to show if a player could play game in and game out they were producing better then the backups available
• 3. I broke down every starter individually and then I broke down each team as a whole.

In order to find what I was looking for I listed the number of starts from each offensive lineman, who started Game 1, and found the mean and standard deviation for all of these starters with in the ACC.

From that I found the statistical breakdown of an ACC offensive lineman who started week one.

Basically, on average, an ACC offensive lineman who started Game 1 started 10.8 games in the 12 game regular season. There was a 68.27% chance they started between 8.58 games and to round it out all 12 games. A 2.275% that an offensive line started less than 6 games after starting Game 1 and a less than 0.135% chance an offensive lineman who started Game 1 started less than 4 games.

So let's take a look at the FSU lineman and see what happened. Two of our five offensive linemen lie outside of two standard deviations of the mean starts. Statistically that is actually pretty absurd and can be considered a large part of the offensive line issues that were faced in 2011. Offensive lines are lucky to run 7-8 deep with quality so losing two starters who are asked to play the whole season is a killer. It was a double killer due to the lack of quality veteran depth behind the starting five that Bud warned us about all preseason.

Poor play can be attributed to the rest of the line as they played at or above the statistical mean of games started. On an individual basis you can see that in the ACC only Maryland and BC had a Game 1 starter who was below two standard deviations, combined tying FSU.

Now looking at the ACC teams as a whole we find FSU was setting records in probability.

That is right, there was 2.275% chance that an ACC offensive line unit would start below 44 games started if they started Game 1. Now these statistics cannot measure quality of the players that were playing but it is of note that the three teams that had arguably the worst line play the in conference also faced more missed games by Game 1 starters. Another note of interest is Virginia Tech was very lucky as they put the same starting five offensive linemen out for every regular season game with four of those five starters being seniors. I would look for that offensive line unit to take a good step back next year.

I have always heard consistency and chemistry make as much of a difference as the individual talent of the lineman on the field. Now it is hard to discern the impact skill talent has on the offensive out from the offensive line, but looking at the final OFEI rankings from http://footballoutsiders.com/stats/feioff2011 one can compare final ranking versus offensive line consistency. Basically if an offensive line unit played at or above the ACC mean of Game 1 Starters making starts then offensive line unit is either not that talented or not the problem.

Comparing a few teams stand out as under achieving and over achieving. First, FSU who finished 51st in the OFEI, could actually be considered overachievers given the line issues. The talent and the coaches helped to cover for the train wreck that the line was and produced at a sadly acceptable level. NC State really under achieved, 57 out of 60 starts from the Week 1 starters and they finish behind FSU in the OFEI. This leads me to believe that coaching/talent would be the issue they are facing. FSU,BC, and Maryland really had offensive line troubles throughout the season and it can be seen in their final rankings of OFEI.

After reviewing the data a few things can be taken.

• 1. FSU faced lost starters due to injury or play level that no other team faced in the ACC and I would venture a guess in the NCAA
• 2. The offense still produced at about as high of a level as one could hope with the instability at the line.
• 3. Having a relatively healthy and consistent offensive line in 2012 should do a great deal to improve the effectiveness of the unit
• 4. It is unlikely that FSU will have their Game 1 starters only start 68% of the total starts due to injury and ability in 2012, if they even come close Rick Trickett will be out of a job.

Clemson and FSU are on the clock.

Athletic Advisory Committee Formed At Clemson: Time To Get All The Way In.

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Gather around TNers. Daddy NoleCC has one of his old man stories to tell you. No, I'm not asking you to get off my lawn, you already know that. I'm talking about FSU spring football. This one is about tailgating and enjoying early April in Tallahassee and that we should think about returning to a great tradition. I've yet to find a better Spring than Tallahassee's, and not too long ago it was enhanced by having the FSU spring game, a Miami / FSU baseball game and a bunch of other events on the same day.

Shocking idea, right?

The last few spring games were focused solely on FSU Football at Doak. Let's bring back former players, let's play it up on ESPN3 and let's have a real good time. I get it. I understand the thought behind featuring your bread and butter program individually, rather than share the spotlight with non-revenue generating sports. But, as is often the case, the seemingly best business decision isn't always the best fan decision. I think there's a way to feature the scrimmage and also boost it with a bunch of other FSU events.

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I think it's a safe assumption that FSU is going to have some coaching turnover after the 2012 season, regardless of the final record. I think this staff/program has been built for a run at the 2012 national title. A BCS game/win on their resume will only increase their price tag.

Who are the most likely coaches to leave? And what impact will their departure have on 2013 recruiting? Personally, I think everyone — save Jimbo, Vic and Odell — is a candidate to move on. They are all attractive to other programs for various reasons, be it resume or recruiting prowess.

Knowing Jimbo's penchant for planning (and having previously admitted that he wants his coaches to be sought after), he’s likely got the second wave of coaches ready to contact. I think the staff would be open and give him early warning if/when they are going to leave. Best-case would be that they depart for a strong move up the coaching ladder immediately after the season (for smaller schools far away from Tallahassee) and Jimbo announces their replacement(s) within days. Worst-case would be what Auburn went through this offseason.

It’s a good sign that other teams want to give coaches on our staff a promotion. FSU needs to manage the inevitable transition. This is a crucial recruiting cycle — lots of names to replace.

How does the staff recruit differently over the next 10-11 months? As much as we like to say that coaches recruit the school/program, we also admit that it's the relationship-building betweenthe coach and prospect that plays a large role in securing a commitment. Would any of this staff take players with them (à la Hudson/Trickett) when they leave? FSU is now recruiting on an elite level, so 4- and 5-star athletes are getting the most attention from this staff. Those players would most likely be interested in top-tier BCS schools, so the answer to the previous question is probably dependent on the school a coach is leaving for.

After the jump, FSU's 2012 coaching staff and an off-the-cuff percentage assigned to each for the likelihood of them leaving.

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Hi. In this first post on TN, I've tried to inter-relate several roster- and recruiting-related topics as part of a mental exercise on how Fisher might project his three-year team-building effort into a 6-to-8 year 'program-of-dominance,' assuming that were that truly possible in the BCS/SEC/Disney-centric era college football.

I'm seeking several types of input: A) Factual corrections to what I'm posting, particularly in the area of known roster circumstances (already-enacted position changes I've missed, graduating class/eligibility year corrections, red-shirt usage, et cetera, of which I'm unaware); 2) Contrary analysis and opinions; D) Anything else that this stream of topics might evoke.

I hope this meets local standards, makes sense, and satisfies anyone who enjoys this kind of projection and analysis.

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In another forum, I was writing out what I projected to be our starting line-up come the start of the 2012 season. What started as a list, turned in a 3 part mini-series that will be airing on AMC this fall. So I thought I would flush it out even more and revive it as a FanPost at TN where I know the awesome fanbase here would (hopefully) accept it.

I am going to list out my thoughts on who I think will be the starters of the 2012 FSU squad. As a disclaimer, I will say that I do not consider myself an "expert", so along with including my opinions on the positions and players I will also ask questions about things that I do not know or that I want to know.

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