Tomahawk Nation - Tracking reports about Jimbo Fisher and LSUFlorida State Seminoles football, basketball, baseball, softball, soccer and athletics updateshttps://cdn.vox-cdn.com/community_logos/49409/tn-logo-fv.png2016-11-22T14:58:10-05:00http://www.tomahawknation.com/rss/stream/134239472016-11-22T14:58:10-05:002016-11-22T14:58:10-05:00Report: Jimbo Fisher’s agent upping price on LSU
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<p>Is LSU prepared to offer Jimbo Fisher Nick Saban type money?</p> <p id="VrmF8x">A <a href="http://www.theadvertiser.com/story/sports/2016/11/21/what-future-holds-anybody-knows-orgeron-said/94227312/">report from Glenn Guilbeau</a>, an LSU reporter for a number of newspapers in Louisiana, says that Jimbo Fisher’s agent, Jimmy Sexton, is upping the price on LSU as it pursues the Florida State head coach.</p>
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<p id="0my2pp">LSU, through the TAF (Tiger Athletic Foundation) and major donors, is prepared to pay Fisher $6 million or more as he makes $5.2 million at Florida State as well as pay his $5 million buyout to Florida State, but there are other demands being bantered about, such as a lucrative housing allowance as there is no state income tax in Florida as there is in Louisiana.</p>
<p id="CqX7kc">...<br>"Everyone wants Jimbo," a TAF member said. "I just hope Jimmy Sexton doesn't price us out of it."</p>
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<p id="nypIwW">Jimbo Fisher is currently the 5th highest paid coach in college football, behind Nick Saban, Urban Meyer, Jim Harbaugh, and Bob Stoops. All four have national titles, except Harbaugh, who took a team to the NFL’s Super Bowl.</p>
<p id="IiUz77">Previously in tracking LSU’s pursuit of Jimbo Fisher. </p>
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<li id="lBQQyJ"><a href="http://www.tomahawknation.com/2016/11/21/13706886/fsu-president-jimbo-fisher-lsu-contract-job-negotiation">Florida State president says Jimbo Fisher wants to stay</a></li>
<li id="vRlS7K"><a href="http://www.tomahawknation.com/2016/11/21/13703176/jimbo-fisher-lsu-coach-orgeron-salary-buyout-interested-report">Report says LSU leaders believe top target Jimbo Fisher is ‘very interested’</a></li>
<li id="NrNA25"><a href="http://www.tomahawknation.com/2016/11/15/13638558/jimbo-fisher-lsu-florida-state-buyout-contract-florida-state">Jimbo Fisher’s representatives reportedly contacted by LSU (Updated with quote)</a></li>
<li id="AYfhKS"><a href="http://www.tomahawknation.com/2016/9/26/13062194/jimbo-fisher-lsu-fsu-les-miles-florida-state-job">Answering questions about Jimbo Fisher, FSU and LSU</a></li>
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https://www.tomahawknation.com/florida-state-football-fsu-noles/2016/11/22/13717962/report-jimbo-fisher-agent-upping-price-lsu-fsuBud Elliott2016-11-21T15:30:40-05:002016-11-21T15:30:40-05:00Florida State president believes Jimbo Fisher wants to stay
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<p>John Thrasher spoke with the Tallahassee Democrat </p> <p id="7DIyOj">Amid <a href="http://www.tomahawknation.com/2016/11/21/13703176/jimbo-fisher-lsu-coach-orgeron-salary-buyout-interested-report">reports that LSU officials believe top target Jimbo Fisher is very interested in the job</a>, Florida State president John Thrasher believes Fisher wants to stay in Tallahassee.</p>
<p id="zRfwC1">“Jimbo and I talk frequently and based on that he is happy here and wants to stay,” <a href="http://www.tallahassee.com/story/sports/college/fsu/football/2016/11/21/fsu-president-thrasher-says-fisher-happy-wants-stay/94228982/">Thrasher told the <em>Tallahassee Democrat</em></a><em>. </em>“He has given me no reason to think differently.”</p>
<p id="GfoW3H">If Fisher is using the LSU job as leverage in contract negotiations, one of the things he is believed to want is more positions for support staff, like Alabama has with its notorious “shadow coaching staff” of assistants who perform pseudo-coaching duties in non-coaching roles. </p>
<p id="hDc9Wc">Thrasher seems open to working with Fisher, “within reason,” and the two are believed to have a decent relationship. </p>
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<p id="X2k6Pv">“If there is something he needs or wants – within reason -- we are open to looking at that,” Thrasher said.</p>
<p id="BMlAeq">“I think he feels he gets great support from the administration.”</p>
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<p id="me1qv4"><strong>Previously in the Jimbo Fisher job speculation string:</strong></p>
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<li id="lBQQyJ"><a href="http://www.tomahawknation.com/2016/11/21/13703176/jimbo-fisher-lsu-coach-orgeron-salary-buyout-interested-report">Report says LSU leaders believe top target Jimbo Fisher is ‘very interested’</a></li>
<li id="NrNA25"><a href="http://www.tomahawknation.com/2016/11/15/13638558/jimbo-fisher-lsu-florida-state-buyout-contract-florida-state">Jimbo Fisher’s representatives reportedly contacted by LSU (Updated with quote)</a></li>
<li id="AYfhKS"><a href="http://www.tomahawknation.com/2016/9/26/13062194/jimbo-fisher-lsu-fsu-les-miles-florida-state-job">Answering questions about Jimbo Fisher, FSU and LSU</a></li>
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https://www.tomahawknation.com/2016/11/21/13706886/fsu-president-jimbo-fisher-lsu-contract-job-negotiationBud Elliott2016-11-21T13:40:32-05:002016-11-21T13:40:32-05:00Report says LSU leaders believe top target Jimbo Fisher is ‘very interested’
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<p>Fisher continues to say he is happy at Florida State</p> <p id="8dzuGQ">LSU lost at home as a two-touchdown favorite against Florida Saturday, seriously weakening the head coaching candidacy of interim Ed Orgeron.</p>
<p id="XOP7eb">According to a <a href="http://www.theadvocate.com/baton_rouge/sports/lsu/article_8e16d558-af81-11e6-8cc9-97c16bbd7e6b.html">report from The Advocate’s Rodd Dellenger</a>, Florida State’s Jimbo Fisher is LSU’s top target, and the administration does not expect the coaching search to take very long. It would like to have the new coach installed by next weekend. </p>
<p id="nSCaax">The report also says that Fisher is “very interested” in returning to Baton Rouge, according to LSU leaders, where he was offensive coordinator during the early 2000s under Nick Saban and Les Miles. </p>
<p id="OlSplq">Fisher spoke about job speculation on November 15.</p>
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<a href="https://www.facebook.com/TomahawkNation/videos/10153815250435771/"></a><p>Florida State Seminoles Football head coach Jimbo Fisher gave a statement regarding the latest rumors of LSU contacting his representatives.</p>Posted by <a href="https://www.facebook.com/TomahawkNation/">TomahawkNation.com</a> on Tuesday, November 15, 2016</blockquote></div>
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<blockquote><p id="wnjPbt">I did [see the report] when I walked out of a meeting, had no idea. But here’s the thing: I’m not going to talk about any jobs. I love being at Florida State. I plan on being here and I’m just getting ready for Syracuse. That’s the last thing I’m going to say on that. No offense to anybody or anything else, that’s just what I’m going to do. I love being here.</p></blockquote>
<p id="Eq0Nxt">This is nothing new for Fisher, who has routinely refused to shoot down job speculation on an annual basis. It’s a smart business move for a head coach who has received raise after raise with the tactic. To flat out deny reports would remove negotiating leverage. </p>
<p id="sNkNnz">Fisher was asked about how the speculation impacts Florida State’s recruiting, which currently ranks 8th nationally. </p>
<p id="qrTH84">“I am very up front and direct with those guys with what is going on. I am extremely happy at Florida State. Always be honest,” Fisher said Monday about his approach with recruits during job speculation.</p>
<p id="kudBCa">Fisher is one of only four active head coaches to have won a national title, though his teams have arguably underachieved relative to talent level over the last two seasons. </p>
https://www.tomahawknation.com/2016/11/21/13703176/jimbo-fisher-lsu-coach-orgeron-salary-buyout-interested-reportBud Elliott2016-11-15T18:30:00-05:002016-11-15T18:30:00-05:00Jimbo Fisher’s representatives reportedly contacted by LSU (Updated with quote)
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<p>Could Jimbo Fisher leave Florida State for LSU?</p> <div id="aWskOZ">
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<a href="https://www.facebook.com/TomahawkNation/videos/10153815250435771/"></a><p>Florida State Seminoles Football head coach Jimbo Fisher gave a statement regarding the latest rumors of LSU contacting his representatives.</p>Posted by <a href="https://www.facebook.com/TomahawkNation/">TomahawkNation.com</a> on Tuesday, November 15, 2016</blockquote></div>
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<p id="uuh3y9"><strong>Update: </strong>After Tuesday’s practice, Fisher was asked about the report. Here’s his full reply:</p>
<blockquote><p id="qsrthT">I did [see the report] when I walked out of a meeting, had no idea. But here’s the thing: I’m not going to talk about any jobs. I love being at Florida State. I plan on being here and I’m just getting ready for Syracuse. That’s the last thing I’m going to say on that. No offense to anybody or anything else, that’s just what I’m going to do. I love being here.</p></blockquote>
<p id="H4zGno">LSU has <a href="http://www.nola.com/lsu/index.ssf/2016/11/lsu_still_courting_jimbo_fishe.html">contacted Jimbo Fisher’s representatives</a>, and the representatives of several other coaches, according to a report from Nola.com.</p>
<p id="0p64Dg">Before coming to Florida State, Fisher served as the offensive coordinator and QB Coach in Baton Rouge from 2000-2006. Fisher has been the head coach at Florida State since 2010, and only one of two head coaches of the program since 1976. </p>
<p id="3ai2Z5">If LSU were to be able to land the current FSU head coach, the NOLA.com report says that the large $5 million buyout would not deter the Tigers. </p>
<p id="3OlPBq">The report says that Fisher is Athletic Director Joe Alleva’s guy. This was first reported by SB Nation’s Steven Godfrey weeks ago, in “<a href="http://www.sbnation.com/college-football/2016/11/1/13487162/lsu-coaching-candidates-orgeron-fisher-herman-mora-holgorsen">Here are LSU’s top 4 candidates, if Orgeron doesn’t just keep the job.”</a></p>
<p id="pGY3rM">Alleva, the Athletic Director at LSU, has said he plans to have an official announcement regarding the situation at the end of November, so the staff would be able to host recruits on official visits prior to the December 12th dead period. </p>
<p id="V2uz4h">Orgeron has a lot of support within the program, and the Tigers will likely be favored to win out, with the lone loss under Orgeron being by ten points to an Alabama team that has defeated SEC opponents by an average of 25 points. </p>
<p id="rQkG5T">Fisher has consistently seen his name bandied about for other jobs during his time in Tallahassee, and has received raises more often than not. Jimbo Fisher is an incredible 75-17 in Tallahassee, though just 49-16 in games not started by Jameis Winston, leading some to question his true talent level without a transcendent talent at QB. </p>
<p id="X7uX9Y">But Fisher is a very good coach of quarterbacks, which just happens to be the largest issue with LSU’s programs over the last few weeks. </p>
<p id="gBZfNS">Tomahawk Nation editor Bud Elliott <a href="http://www.tomahawknation.com/2016/9/26/13062194/jimbo-fisher-lsu-fsu-les-miles-florida-state-job">previously answered questions from fans about Jimbo Fisher and LSU</a> after the firing of Les Miles. </p>
<p id="3SiNqE">The ‘Noles ends its season on November 26th vs. UF with a bowl game to follow in December. </p>
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<p>FSU and LSU fans want to know about Jimbo Fisher and the Tigers’ vacancy.</p> <p id="6B1ivw">When the news broke Sunday that <a href="http://www.sbnation.com/college-football/2016/9/26/13060746/lsu-football-coaching-search-news-updates-les-miles">LSU had fired Les Miles</a>, our inbox lit up like a Christmas tree with questions from FSU fans and LSU fans wondering about Jimbo Fisher and the job in Baton Rouge.</p>
<p id="WT8r5Y">Fisher was an offensive coordinator at LSU from 2000-06 under Nick Saban. He’s spoken highly of his time there and LSU has not had good quarterback play on the whole since Fisher left.</p>
<p id="xd2W3G">Fisher has denied having any contact with or interest in the LSU job, and has stayed on message claiming that all his focus is on coaching his Florida State team.</p>
<p id="83XJcj">Here is our best attempt to answer your questions.</p>
<h4 id="p4ZwmP">Is Jimbo Fisher going to take the LSU job?</h4>
<p id="PQ0BQB">This question assumes Fisher is the top target and is going to have the option — an assumption many readers are making.</p>
<p id="RyyXOx">The answer is that I have no idea. Seriously. And I’d be weary of believing anyone who claims they know for sure unless that person directly knows Fisher or his agent.</p>
<h4 id="OTNGdG">Aren’t FSU and LSU both elite jobs of similar caliber?</h4>
<p id="QqBKQh">Yes. Both have elite tradition, fan support, facilities and pay. Both are awesome recruiting spots. FSU actually pays Fisher more than LSU paid Les Miles, but there is no doubt LSU will pay top dollar after firing a pretty successful coach. They are both inarguably top ten jobs.</p>
<p id="Vi9DWu">Objectively, it’s a lateral move. Subjectively, maybe not.</p>
<h4 id="LQauED">Why would Fisher even consider leaving?</h4>
<p id="bZSDFC">I don’t know that he is considering it. But the usual reasons could apply.</p>
<p id="IlwzRy">Change of scenery? Realizing most coaches are much better as change agents than maintainers? In the last five years, only Saban has won a national title after being at a school for more than five years. Urban Meyer has won them in years two and four at Florida and year three at Ohio State. Jimbo Fisher won his in year four at Florida State, Gene Chizik in year two at Auburn, and Miles won his in year three at LSU.</p>
<p id="tjw0XA">Jimbo Fisher will be going into his eighth year as FSU’s head coach in 2017. Is his message still getting through with the effectiveness it once did? Would it work better in Baton Rouge in the years 2017-2022</p>
<p id="GEhenh">Might he want the challenge of facing Nick Saban? Maybe Fisher really loves Baton Rouge? Who knows?</p>
<h4 id="Wn7nOx">What is Jimbo Fisher’s buyout?</h4>
<p id="e0hoS2"><a href="http://www.tomahawknation.com/2015/1/28/7931951/jimbo-fisher-contract-extension-florida-state-fsu-salary">$5M.</a></p>
<h4 id="sgkpkY">Doesn’t LSU have unrealistic expectations?</h4>
<p id="X4Wj1L">From my <a href="http://www.sbnation.com/college-football/2016/9/26/13056734/lsu-football-recruiting-les-miles">SB Nation article Monday</a>. Miles started 75-17 in his first 92 games and finished 39-17 in final 56.</p>
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<p id="SC4M5p">Miles’ <a href="http://www.sbnation.com/college-football-recruiting/2016/8/18/12530108/ncaa-football-best-recruiters-2016">Tigers signed 67 four- and five-star recruits</a> over the last four cycles. Only Alabama and Ohio State signed more. Yet in his last 56 games, spanning from the loss to Alabama in the BCS Championship to LSU’s most recent loss to Auburn, LSU is just 39-17 (.696).</p>
<p id="nMaXbQ">A .696 winning percentage for a team that recruits as well as LSU over a period of four years and change just won’t cut it. The best finish in the division for LSU in that time frame is a tie for second in 2013.</p>
<p id="6uZAmu">Yes, the 39-17 mark does include five losses to Alabama. And yes, everyone in college football has a "Saban problem." But Miles is also just 24-9 in SEC games not against Alabama during this stretch, including two losses to Arkansas, one to Florida, one to Mississippi State, two to Ole Miss and two to Auburn.</p>
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<p id="W1citY">For comparison purposes, Jimbo Fisher is 71-15 at FSU. The Seminoles do play in an easier league, but LSU should expect better than 39-17 in its last 56.</p>
<p id="dd8vTH">If the expectation is to be better than Nick Saban, then the expectations are unrealistic. But if it’s simply to be better than Miles was of late, that’s fine.</p>
<h4 id="oLYhoV">LSU reportedly pursued Fisher last year before it decided to keep Miles. Is the job more attractive now?</h4>
<p id="SOGbpL">Arguably so. Nick Saban is a year older. Auburn also likely will be going through a coaching transition soon. Ole Miss could get hit with NCAA sanctions. And importantly, more LSU supporters seem to be behind the Miles’ move than they were in 2015. That impacts perception of the new guy.</p>
<h4 id="qyWqdU">Why are other elite coaches like Nick Saban, Urban Meyer, Mark Dantonio and Gary Patterson not mentioned for LSU?</h4>
<p id="36b3ZV">They are either at better jobs or have little to no connection to the school. But it’s still early and entirely possible names like Dantonio and Patterson enter the fold.</p>
<h4 id="dLij3N">If Jimbo Fisher were to leave for LSU who would Florida State hire?</h4>
<p id="b9g7tG">I have absolutely no idea. It would depend on who was available and who else is in the market to hire a coach. FSU is a great job and would certainly be jammed with interest from top coaches.</p>
<h4 id="9rMshO">Would FSU consider hiring Les Miles as defensive coordinator (apparently a serious question)?</h4>
<p id="S1T9GA">Absolutely not. Les Miles is an offensive line coach and coordinator by trade.</p>
https://www.tomahawknation.com/2016/9/26/13062194/jimbo-fisher-lsu-fsu-les-miles-florida-state-jobBud Elliott